USE OF THIS FORUM IS "AT YOUR OWN RISK" - READ THIS FIRST!

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Bryan Carnathan Posted: 05-06-2009 9:28 AM

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USE OF THIS FORUM IS "AT YOUR OWN RISK"!

Buying, trading or selling here is not without risk. The-Digital-Picture.com is NOT affiliated with and does not verify any buyer or seller using the Buy & Sell Forum. The-Digital-Picture.com is NOT liable for any misrepresentation, fraud or any other information (or lack of) posted here. The-Digital-Picture.com does not provide assistance in any transaction.

The rules for using this forum include:

• The title for each thread should start with one of the following:
   "FS: " (For Sale)
   "FT: " (For Trade)
   "WTB: " (Want To Buy)
   "FA: " (For Auction - EBay or other auction site)
  
  
• Once desired transaction agreement is reached for all items, replace the above title prefix with "Sale Pending: " or "Found: " but leave the price intact for others to reference.
  
  
• Once desired transaction is completed for all items, replace the above title prefix with "Sold: ", but again, leave the price intact for others to reference.
  
  
• Only photography-related gear may be sold.
  
  
• Commercial sales are not allowed - Personal items (including items used in your photography-related business) only may be sold here.
  
  
• Software may be sold as long as the license transfer is in full compliance with the manufacturer's terms.
  
  
• Offers for sale should be posted by the OP (original poster) only - Please start a new thread if you have something to sell - do not sell within another's FS: thread.
  
  
• All items must have a price and seller should fully intend to sell the item - do not post it for sale if you are not sure you want to part with it.
  
  
• No price policing - you may not comment on the seller's asking price unless they explicitly ask.
  
  Buyer is expected to research the asking price to insure it is fair. Valuation of used equipment varies greatly between individuals and locales - what is fair to one of us may not be to another. The seller/trader's post is not the appropriate place to discuss this.
  
  Unless the seller indicates a firm price ... consider offering what you believe is a fair price for an item priced higher than you think it should be. Including real world price evidence will go far to backup your opinion.
  
  Again, even though you are well-meaning, the seller's thread is not the place to point out what you think are unfair prices. Items priced too high will simply not sell.
  
  
• Give a complete description of what is and what is not for sale.
  
  
• Full disclosure of any deficiencies in condition or functionality is expected - Your reputation is more important than what you are selling.
  
  
• State the acceptable method(s) of payment.
  
  
• Please state shipping/insurance costs if not included in the price. Also state the method of shipping you are proposing.
  

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Sean Setters replied on 05-06-2009 10:35 AM

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Sounds fair enough to me!

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Gary Creely replied on 05-06-2009 1:10 PM

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Good idea BC

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AndyGarcia replied on 05-06-2009 1:16 PM

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Thanks very much!

Andy Garcia

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Rodger replied on 05-06-2009 4:08 PM

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Sounds good!

Thankyou Bryan! 

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samoksner replied on 05-06-2009 4:48 PM

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Great idea with of course a good set of rules.  Considering the not gigantic group we have in the forums i think it should be fun and a personal way of buying / selling among photographers.

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Colin replied on 05-06-2009 7:43 PM

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I hope that you will forgive me for not selling my 50 f/1.2L on this forum.

I already sent it to Adorama.  Besides, it's not a lens I'd recommend to friends.  It's good for some applications, but the autofocus unaccuracy at close distance drove me nuts, by design or not, I simply couldn't stand it, regardless of beautiful colors and bokeh.  It's good if you're going to do things father away, and the build quality is nice, but....  I like close so often, and it just don't work very well that way

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aphanta replied on 05-08-2009 11:21 AM

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Thanks Bryan!  It'll be nice to see some form of feedback system implemented in the future.

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clemmb replied on 05-08-2009 11:36 AM

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Thanks Bryan

Maybe you should also suggest a standard equipment condition rating system.

I would suggest the one used by KEH if that is legal.

NEW*		As packaged by manufacturer complete with manufacturer’s USA warranty. Not previously owned or used.
NEW DEMO*		As packaged by manufacturer complete with manufacturer’s USA warranty. Never owned but used as demonstration equipment and may show various stages of wear.
LN*		"Like New" 99% -100% of NEW. Includes original box and instructions.
LN-*		"Like New Minus" Extremely slight wear only seen upon very close inspection. Box and accessories usually not included. Glass perfect*.
EX+*		"Excellent Plus" Exceptionally nice. May have slight wear on finish but visible only under close inspection. Glass very clean*.
EX*		"Excellent" Shows moderate wear. May have small dents and/or dings and slight finish wear. Glass may have slight marks and/or blemishes that will not affect picture quality*.
BGN*		"Bargain" Shows more than average wear. May have dents, dings and/or brassing and finish loss. Glass may have marks and/or blemishes that should not affect picture quality*.
UG		"Ugly" Very rough looking. Multiple impressions in metal, excessive finish loss and brassing. Glass will have marks, fungus and/or haze which will affect picture quality.

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alexniedra replied on 05-08-2009 1:25 PM

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Great suggestion clemmb...

I think this in combination with accurate descriptions will really make this a great, reliable source for photo gear. The people in this forum have excellent experience, and are serious about their photography.

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David Israel replied on 09-02-2009 10:42 AM

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Many thanks to Bryan and Alex for offering this venue for Buying and Selling our gear.  I do think the rating system is a good idea.  A feedback system would go a LONG way toward assisting with transactions.  Of the various feedback systems that I have participated in on other sites, the model currently being used on FredMiranda.com is the best that I have seen.  Something similar here would be a very helpful and most appreciated!