Were there any new features in the R7 that may be seen a "public beta" for an R1 feature? I've literally seen no mention of the R7/R9 launch on our forum, and I've not sought out any R7 vs R3/R5 comparisons either, but I'd guess there must be something new on the R7.
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I thought about doing a post, but as I looked at the cameras, literally nothing stood out or interested me. So, it would have been a post for the sake of a post.Originally Posted by DavidEccleston
I have not seen or heard any reference to anything new. What is amazing about them is that a ton of features from the R3/R5/R6 flowed down to them. For example, R7 is 30 fps electronic shutter, same as R3. The 15 fps mechanical shutter is "new" (1DX III had 16 fps)....but remarkable in a less expensive camera. AF, eye-detect AF, etc all seemed to flow down. 24 MP and 32 MP in crop sensor is again, very good.
They look like excellent entry level cameras. But, I am not seeing anything new.
As for the R1. I expect the headlining features:
- Quad-pixel AF
- Less rolling shutter/faster read speed (I am speculating something faster than 1/400th of a second)
- Improvements to AF modes
- Maybe this feature that you are starting to see where as soon as you have half depressed the shutter, it starts taking pictures (in electronic mode) and continuously fills the buffer of a couple seconds, then, when you press the shutter fully, you not only get the image you took, but a couple seconds before and maybe even after. The M6 II has a feature like this (so Canon has been beta testing it), Nikon Z9 has this, I expect it to come to Canon.
Then other features:
- Resolution. All gets down to video. 8K DCI is 8192x4320 pixels. Change aspect ratios to 3:2 and you get 8192x5462 = 44.7MP. If Canon wants 8K video in the camera, then you are looking at least 45 MP. Now, when people talk about anything above 45 MP they forget that to have video from that sensor they are either introducing a crop mode, which is very unpopular, or they are pixel binning, which takes processing power and generates heat. Both can be and are done, but it is no coincidence that the R5 is 45 MP and offers several video modes without any (or minimal) crop mode. Some of those modes generate tons of heat. I suspect the R1 will be 45 to 50 MPs and have 8K video.
- Fully electronic shutter. I hate this, but I suspect the R1 will not have a mechanical shutter. I hope to be wrong here. But the shutter is the last moving part inside the camera. Nikon just got rid of theirs.
- Fully or highly programable shutter rate up to maybe 40 fps (I suspect 30 fps, but Canon might want to differentiate from R3). How fast gets down to improvements in CFE card write speeds. As I have noted in other threads, actual performance of CFE is significantly off published spec, but the CFE tech is new, if they can begin to approach published write speeds, then I can see higher fps. But, note, CFE Type B theoretical max is 2,000 MB/sec and ~60 MB x 40 fps = 2400 MB/sec. So, even at the theoretical max, CFE Type B can't keep up with larger sensors and higher frame rates. So, either R1 is CFE Type C (which doesn't exist as a product yet), sensor size/fps will limited, or higher fps will only be unlocked with C-RAW.
- Enhanced eye-controlled AF.
- R3 like body, classic textured grip.
- Price point...my gut tells me $8,000. I'd consider us fortunate if they come in at $6,500 and drop the R3 to $5,500.
15 fps vs 12 fps mechanical.
Looking at the specs I see nothing of interest. $1799 for the 7D II at release, it would be $2,221 adjusted for inflation. Canon priced it at $1499, the R7 isn't at the same level compared to the current bodies as the 7D II was to the line up when it was released.
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