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**Chris White** · 07-23-2009, 10:17 PM

Originally Posted by hotsecretary

Well, when you're dropping over $2k, you want to make sure it's worth while

I'm just worried the 2.8 IS will drop in price if I can still get it... or the new one will come out for a few hundred more and be 10x better, etc.
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<p class="MsoNormal"]<span> Discontinued or
not, it is still a great lens! I was lucky enough (smart enough?) to grab one
for $1500 when the rebates first came out this spring. I was going back and
forth between the f/4 IS and the f/2.8 IS and in the end went with the f/2.8 IS
and have not regretted it. I do a lot of indoor and my kids sports and the
wider aperture was the right choice for me. Although it is twice the weight,
being 6’/210<sub>lbs</sub> I manage it no problem. I did get the BG-E2N battery
grip – I should mention my body is a 50D – to help balance it out, and that
works well for me.
<p class="MsoNormal"]<span> I second Colin,
great zoo lens. I went with the family shortly after getting this lens and took
@350 shots and they were almost all keepers. I have a mountain goat looking
directly at me and it looks like I was three feet in front of him. Additionally,
the candid shots of my kids and their friend are outstanding. You cannot pose
kids being kids, and when you are on top of them, they tend to pose. However,
when you are two exhibits away they tend to act natural and not posed. If I had
waited for something better/cheaper, I would not have those images and hundreds
of others I have taken this summer. I cannot put a dollar amount on some of
those, but I am glad I got this lens.
<p class="MsoNormal"]<span> As far as the
price, Mark is correct. I check the Adorama refurbished Canon frequently and I have
seen the 70-200mm f/2.8 IS at least twice and maybe three times in the last
five weeks for $1700 and they are gone in twenty-four hours! I have nothing
against the refurbished, I have purchased some and other than a “refurbished”
sticker, placed side by side with a new unit they have been indistinguishable. It
is just that a couple of months ago they were selling the new unit for $200
less that the refurbished ones are going for – when they can get them. I would
suggest you get the lens now – if you can find one – take your pictures and
worry about a new release when it someday comes. If you treat your equipment as
I think most of us in this community do, it will retain the historically good
resale value and you should be able to recover most of your investment and have
your images too. In my local camera shop, they tell me they do not see “L”
glass for sale very often and as such when they do, they get a good price for
it.
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<span style="font-size: 12pt; line-height: 115%; font-family: 'Times New Roman','serif';"]If
you have the budget for it now, buy it, it is worthwhile– you will not regret
it. The new one may be a little better, but ten times better seems very implausible.

<p class="MsoNormal"]Chris

**ThomasGriggs** · 07-24-2009, 12:40 AM

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**George Slusher** · 07-24-2009, 03:10 PM

Originally Posted by Sinh Nhut Nguyen

If you have the money, never wait if you need a lens to shoot, the images are the most important thing, without the lens there won't be any image. [img]/emoticons/emotion-1.gif[/img]

Good point. Also, Canon L lenses seem to hold their value pretty well, so you should be able to sell the lens at a resonable "loss." If you buy an used lens, you may even be able to sell it for more than you paid for it!

I tracked the 24-70mm f/2.8L prices on eBay for a while. The average selling price then was $1,047, versus a new lens at $1,270, $1,190 with rebate. Not all of the sales were strictly comparable, of course: some lenses were nearly new, some several years old; some included a filter, though often they were low-quality filters; some had the original box, others were missing the hood. The average price rose a bit while I was tracking it, from $980 to $1,047. I've bought several L lenses on eBay, and none new. (The only lenses I've bought new in the last 2 years were a cheap Sigma 28-300mm f/3.5-6.3 when I first got my 30D and a 50mm f/1.8 II.) Here is a comparison of the prices I paid (excluding shipping) and the current non-rebate new price. In most cases, I paid less than the average price on eBay.

70-200mm f/4L $545 (including tripod ring) vs $640 + 150 = $790 (a real bargain!)
70-200mm f/4L IS $919 vs $1100
70-200mm f/2.8L IS $1325 ("well-used" & missing soft pouch) vs $1900 (retail price has gone up a lot in the last year; the retail price when I bought mine was $1699)
100-400mm f/4.5-5.6L IS $995 vs $1500 (that price has gone up a lot, as well)
200mm f/2.8L $520 (including black ring) vs $749 + 150 = $899 (another major bargain)
17-55mm f/2.8 IS ("almost L") $780 vs $1030

If Canon does come out with a "Mark II" 70-200mm f/2.8L IS and it's more expensive, the value of used "Mark I" lenses may go up. If it comes out at the same price as the current lens, used values will likely drop.

**hotsecretary** · 07-27-2009, 09:38 PM

Well, I'm got the OK from the g/f

And if its' still available and the same price ($2k Cdn) when I get back (going on vacation tomorrow morning for a week).. I'm picking one up.

And if the new one comes out and it's so much better, I might think about a trade-in deal.. we'll see. But I tried one out quickly on a 50D body in the store, I have the 40D .. and it was so nice!!

Possibly picking up the 580 Flash at the same time, then to save for the 24-70 (v2 maybe??

) .. and then finally save for 5DII or possibly what replaces it by the time I have enough extra cash.

**Atomhot** · 07-28-2009, 03:32 PM

Dell has it for 1599 now. Will J&R price match Dell?

**Sinh Nhut Nguyen** · 07-30-2009, 01:30 AM

Nikon just release a version II of their very popular AF-S NIKKOR 70-200mm f/2.8G ED VR, and it's priced at $2399 ....

So folks, let's say Canon makes a version II of our EF 70-200mm f/2.8 L IS USM, what do you think its price would be? I say if you can grab an original 70-200 f/2.8 IS, go for it[

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**jusap** · 07-30-2009, 01:41 AM

canon rumors has just posted it. 70-200 f/2.8 IS II by Sept '09.

if Nikon priced their new glass with $2399, I think Canon would be releasing theirs around $2199. Or maybe I'm just imagining things :P

**jcmeza_21** · 07-30-2009, 01:54 AM

"Canon will launch the 24-70 f/2.8L IS II and 70-200 f/2.8L IS II near the end of August." Canon rumors.com

NOOOOOOO!!!! I just purchasedthe 24-70 f/2.8L and the 70-200 f/2.8L IS. The latter is scheduled to arrive on Aug. 12th. I wonder if that's the reason why Canon has extended their Instant rebates. Also, if the rumors are true; how much of a price drop will the existing lenses have. Anyhow, the current lenses arestillwithout a doubt excellent glass that produce outstanding quality images.

**George Slusher** · 07-30-2009, 02:14 AM

Originally Posted by jcmeza_21

NOOOOOOO!!!! I just purchasedthe 24-70 f/2.8L and the 70-200 f/2.8L IS. The latter is scheduled to arrive on Aug. 12th. I wonder if that's the reason why Canon has extended their Instant rebates. Also, if the rumors are true; how much of a price drop will the existing lenses have. Anyhow, the current lenses arestillwithout a doubt excellent glass that produce outstanding quality images.

There may not be a price drop. Sometimes, when Canon has introduced a new version of a lens, the price went UP. Case in point is the TS-E 24mm f/3.5L II: the original was (and still is, for now) selling for $1200, the new version is $2199. A similar thing happened with the 24mm f/1.4L II, as I recall, and may have happened with the 16-35mm f/2.8L II.

The current B&H price of the 70-200mm f/2.8L IS is $1900, $1700 with rebate. That's less than the guestimates other members have made for the "II" lens.

**jcmeza_21** · 07-30-2009, 02:28 AM

I'm wondering if there's going to be a price drop on the existing lens. So it may sell for $1700 now with the rebate but when the II version gets release, would it drop lower than $1700?

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