View Full Version : I do not want to start a riot...or be stoned to death...but question: anyone using both Canon and Nikon gear? .....
1) Why did you decide to go with Canon/Nikon?
2) Which one do you find easier to use?
3) Lens quality? Which one do you prefer...C vs N...if you care to go into description and comparison or just any rationale will do.
4)which features from Nikon would you like to see on your Canon? Or vice versa
Thanks a bunch!
ShutterbugJohan
07-01-2009, 12:02 AM
I use Canon and not Nikon... but that is only because I cannot currently afford to run both systems.
1) Why did you decide to go with Canon/Nikon?
Canon had a better camera and lens lineup when I purchased my D-SLR. Now it is fairly even.
2) Which one do you find easier to use?
Since I use Canon, it takes me a few moments to get oriented when I look at Nikons. I would say that they are fairly equal.
4)which features from Nikon would you like to see on your Canon?
A bunch!
Weathersealing on x0D series and 5D series--like Nikon's D300 and D700
More AF points on x0D series and 5D series--like Nikon's D300 and D700
100% viewfinder coverage on x0D series and 5D series--like Nikon's D300.
More switches (like Nikon) for things such as drive mode and (maybe) metering.
3D color matrix metering--I've heard that it is awesome.
Ability to assign one button to lock both the exposure and focus--at the same time. I find it annoying to only have one function available at any time.
Instant switching from AF to MF by turning the focus ring. With Canon's full-time-manual focusing available on USM lenses, you must either let the camera finish focusing or hit the focus lock (see my previous point). With Nikon, you can twist the focus ring even during focusing, and the focus motor will stop as if by magic--letting you adjust focus immediately. (I tried it out on the 70-200/2.8 VR. Awesome!)
Jarhead5811
07-01-2009, 12:03 AM
1) Chose a Canon film camera years ago because the equivalent Nikon cost more. Chose a Canon digital so I could use my old lenses the equivalent Nikon cost more. (I didn't realize the old lenses were crap.)
2) I've use a D300 and found it difficult because I'm so used to Canons. I'm assuming after the learning curvethere would be little difference.
3) Don't really have a dog in that fight, but it seems there isn't the selection on the Nikkor lensesthere is on the Canon side. (I've tried to help my uncle, the owner ofthe D300, find a lens. After two years he's stillonly hasthe 18-200mm kit lens!)
4) It would be neat to have slave flash control built into the camera (but then again that's probably part of the reason why Canons tend to be cheaper).
Keith B
07-01-2009, 12:08 AM
1) Why did you decide to go with Canon/Nikon?
2) Which one do you find easier to use?
3) Lens quality? Which one do you prefer...C vs N...if you care to go into description and comparison or just any rationale will do.
4)which features from Nikon would you like to see on your Canon? Or vice versa
Thanks a bunch!
Well,
1) Canon because I could figure out how to operate the aperture on a 40D and could not on the D80. Plus I always hated the Nikon Coolpix 5000 I paid way too much for back in the day.
2) I obviously find Canon easier to operate.
3) I don't have too much experience with Nikon lenses so I'm going with Canon. From the reviews/comparisons of the lenses I own compared to their Nikon counterparts, they seem to on par or better (16-35 II, 24-70, 70-200 2.8 IS, 24 1.4, 501.4) and a couple I don't think Nikon has equivalents.
4) I'd like better AF in the 5D one that is on par with D700.
Sinh Nhut Nguyen
07-01-2009, 12:19 AM
I didn't know better and now I have to live it.[:)]
powers_brent
07-01-2009, 12:29 AM
1. I went with Canon because I know the prices are cheaper and more of my friends use Canon so we can trade lenses for a work or so. Like can I use your 100mm macro and you can use my 24-70 f/2.8 for a week type thing. (not saying I have either, but as example.)
2. I have used a Nikon D40, Nikon D70s, Canon Rebel XT, Xti, and XS, and Canon 5D. Only reason I say that Canon is easier to use is because I have used them more. Like Jarhead said after the learning curve I am sure its the same. The first ever SLR I ever used was the D40 which I borrowed froma friend for a week, but I had no experience what so ever. Then I got my own Canon XS and actually started to learn how to use an SLR.
3. Lens quality? Couldn't say. But I do not like that there is the issue with the Nikon D40 and many lenses not working with AF. One of my friends has that problem. Pretty horrible because only certain lenses have AF and thus he is required to get the more expensive lens (if he wants AF, and who doesn't unless maybe you are talking macro).
4. Could not say. Granted I used the D40 for a week, I know nothing much about Nikons.
Jarhead5811
07-01-2009, 12:36 AM
...there is the issue with the Nikon D40 and many lenses not working with AF.
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Yep, older Nikon bodies had a focus motor built in. New, low end Nikon bodies do not. Hence the problem. If you got a higher end body it shouldn't be an issue.
I'm pretty sure higher end Nikkor lenses have a focus motor built into them. So, a low end body with high end glass shouldn't have any trouble either.
Rodger
07-01-2009, 12:48 AM
1) Why did you decide to go with Canon/Nikon?
2) Which one do you find easier to use?
3) Lens quality? Which one do you prefer...C vs N...if you care to go into description and comparison or just any rationale will do.
4)which features from Nikon would you like to see on your Canon? Or vice versa
1) I went Canon cause some of my friend's pictures inspired me to get into photography. He shot Canon so I shot Canon.
2) I've only toyed around with my friend's D60. That and my 20D are about the same though in ease of use I think.
3) After having a chance to talk to Curt Chandler, a very important man in the photojournalism department at PSU, he said Canon is usually a step ahead in the auto focus department while Nikon is better with the speedlights.
4) Having never used a Nikon, I don't really know. Although the Auto/Manual focus thing that Johan described would certainly be nice!
Dallasphotog
07-01-2009, 12:56 AM
I started with a Canon AE-1 in 1981 and I've shot Canon for the last 28 years. I own 6 Canon bodies and too many accessories to count. Once you've made the investment in asystem, it is pretty hard to switch.
As for comparisons, both companies make good cameras and both have certain advantages. I think Canon has been a step ahead on resolution and high ISO noise, but the differences at this moment are not staggering.
Lens to lens, you might be able to makedirect comparisons, but anything I'd say as a generalization would be proven wrong. I like the Canon EF300mm f/2.8 L IS USM and it's EF400mm f/2.8 L ISUSM big brother. The equivalent Nikon lenses are more expensiveand I don't notice the Nikon guys outshooting me at sporting events.
DavidEccleston
07-01-2009, 01:45 AM
I'm still using a Sony H1 superzoom P&S (which I use in manual mode, and have the M3358 closeup filter, and the 1.7x teleconverter)
1. Still saving my pennies, so I haven't technically gone with Canon yet, but I plan to. I used a Nikon D40 for 2 days ( I read Ken Rockwell's page about how it was all you'd ever need ) and was forced to returned it. Compared the the H1 it was not usable in manual mode.
With auto-review on, the buttons to change shutter and aperture don't actually change shutter and aperture while the review is up, they start scrolling through older pictures, making it hard to tweak settings between shots. This is wrong, they should allow me to change settings while the preview is up.
With auto-review off, if you want to see your last shot, you must enter a special mode, which takes like 5 seconds to start (and another few to turn off). I should press the button and the image should appear, press it again, and I should be ready to shoot.
I don't know for sure if Canon will handle these gripes any better (try finding a store with a display model with both a charged battery and a memory card installed!), or if other Nikon models are any better. I just know I would go insane using the Nikon D40. It drove me away from their entire brand.
Nikon wants you to pay extra for the utility to read RAW files, where as Canon includes one. I didn't like the feeling I was being nickled and dimed to death to use the more advanced camera features. The whole Nikon suing Adobe in 2005 for reading their RAW files (by breaking the encryption on their white balance data) doesn't exactly make me happy with Nikon either.
2. It's got to be Canon. There's no way they can top the interface annoyances I found on the Nikon... but I haven't had the chance to properly try out a Canon.
3. No opinion.
4. None.
piiooo
07-01-2009, 09:08 AM
1) I have quite a few customers who are professional photographers and they all use/recommendeither Canon or Hasselblad. I couldn't afford the latter[:(]. My experience with Nikon is pretty limited though: I have a D40 at work and played with my friend's D200 on several occasions.
2)Both Canon and Nikon systems are easy to use, one can adapt easily.
3)For the lenses I've tested, I amby no meansa pixel peeper, butthey certainlyget the job done.
4)There is one thing that sometimes drives me crazy: when a newly taken photograph shows up on your LCD screen, the only thing you can do is to look at it. You have to press play in order to magnify or compare with previously taken pictures.
In conclusion, each system has its pros and cons. I personaly like diversity. It would suck if allmanufacturers were making identical models of cameras..
Keith B
07-01-2009, 09:55 AM
4)There is one thing that sometimes drives me crazy: when a newly taken photograph shows up on your LCD screen, the only thing you can do is to look at it. You have to press play in order to magnify or compare with previously taken pictures.
Yeah, that drives me nuts too! Forgot about that.
Mark Elberson
07-01-2009, 10:06 AM
1) Why did you decide to go with Canon/Nikon?
2) Which one do you find easier to use?
3) Lens quality? Which one do you prefer...C vs N...if you care to go into description and comparison or just any rationale will do.
4)which features from Nikon would you like to see on your Canon? Or vice versa
<p class="MsoNormal"]<span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial;"]1) I learned to use an SLR on my dad's AE-1.<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"] He always shot Canon, my grandfather always shot Canon.<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"] When my dad would upgrade bodies, he would give me his old ones.
<p class="MsoNormal"]<span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial;"]2) I can't say because I haven't toyed around too much with Nikon bodies.<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"] From what I read, Canon has a slight edge in the user interface but not enough to make much of a difference.
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<p class="MsoNormal"]<span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial;"]3) Again, little Nikon experience but from what I read I'd say Canon has the edge.<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"] Also, look at the sidelines at <st1:place w:st="on"]Wimbledon</st1:place>, The World Series, The Super Bowl, etc...you tend to see a lot of white lenses out there!<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"] The other thing is, Canon seems to have more offerings...there's no Nikkor 50mm f/1.2 or 85mm f/1.2 or others.<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"] They tend to cost about 5%-15% more than Canon's too!<o:p></o:p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"]<span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial;"]4) Like ShutterbugJohan said:
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<div style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt;" class="MsoNormal"]<span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial;"]Weathersealing on x0D series and 5D series--like Nikon's D300 and D700 <o:p></o:p></div>
<div style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt;" class="MsoNormal"]<span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial;"]More AF points on x0D series and 5D series--like Nikon's D300 and D700 <o:p></o:p></div>
<div style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt;" class="MsoNormal"]<span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial;"]100% viewfinder coverage on x0D series and 5D series--like Nikon's D300. <o:p></o:p></div>
<div style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt;" class="MsoNormal"]<span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial;"]More switches (like Nikon) for things such as drive mode and (maybe) metering.<o:p></o:p></div>
<div style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt;" class="MsoNormal"]<span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial;"]Instant switching from AF to MF by turning the focus ring</div>
ShutterbugJohan
07-01-2009, 11:39 AM
Instant switching from AF to MF by turning the focus ring. With Canon's full-time-manual focusing available on USM lenses, you must either let the camera finish focusing or hit the focus lock (see my previous point). With Nikon, you can twist the focus ring even during focusing, and the focus motor will stop as if by magic--letting you adjust focus immediately. (I tried it out on the 70-200/2.8 VR. Awesome!)
I forgot to mention that this feature is only available on their lenses that feature M and M/A focusing. Their more inexpensive lenses feature M and A focusing, in which this does not work (as far as I know).
Ehcalum
07-01-2009, 11:48 AM
Ability to assign one button to lock both the exposure and focus--at the same time. I find it annoying to only have one function available at any time.
You can do this in Canon, under custom functions. Its under the AF custom fuction menu.You can also set it to Back Button Focus so your shutter is only good for expouser and triggering the camera while the * button is for focus.
Jon Ruyle
07-01-2009, 12:54 PM
I went with canon because back in the day I heard the rebel xt was better than what Nikon was offering at the time. I've stayed with canon because I have too much canon gear to switch without a very very good reason.
More AF points on x0D series and 5D series--like Nikon's D300 and D700
This is *the* big issue for me. What I want most is a full frame camera with a high end autofocus. Not just more af points, but faster and better tracking and low light performance. Canon makes such a thing, sure, but it costs $7000. With nikon, you can get it for $2400. *Big* difference.
That said, the 5DII has its strong points over the D700... greater pixel count, movies, and um... there must be *something* else... [:)]
lculpin
07-01-2009, 03:48 PM
1) My dad also had an AE-1 (which is what got me into photography) so I kept with Canon b/c it was familiar.
2) For most things, Canon... don't have a lot of Nikon experience either mind you
3) I've heard people say that Nikon's wider lenses have an edge over Canon and vice-versa for tele's, but have not experienced this personally....
4) - OC-E3 (off camera shoe cord) with a damned focus-assist beam built into the camera mount end!!!!!
- Gel holder built into the higher end flashes (at LEAST the 580II's)
- More focus points on the mid level bodies
- FTM actually being FTM :P
Colin
07-02-2009, 12:48 AM
Photographers I knew had Canon for digital.
I got a Canon point and shoot based on a public radio interview.... Got to know it and like it.
Ex had a Canon 20D that she bought with our medical insurance money. When my P&S drowned in the ocean, Canon got kudos from her photography teacher, and I figured (thinking at the time we were going to be married), why not have the same platform and be able to share lenses....
I don't think anything bad about Nikon based on what I know, but I've come to know Canon, and have been very happy with their products and their company, overall. Much better choice in cameras than prior relationships [:)] At least when a camera decides that it doesn't want to be your camera anymore, it doesn't sue you.
Awww, Colin, you are funny[:D]
I hope your current or future beau will have the same appreciation for the fine art of photography as you do. We have an agreement with my husband that I have to learn (means spend $$$) photography to keep my sanity, it is my de-stressor and complete fun thing to do. He is completely not into it, but I stay away from his music collection and thousand of CDs and God knows how many Ipods [:)] Hey, everyone has to have their thing and space!
I got into Canon because I had PS before and my friend was buying 40D so I decided to go with this one. Like every woman, I had a terrible time deciding what to get, N vs C, but went with Canon as I figured I knew squat about photography so I hoped to lear about the camera from my friend. Now I spend time on this forum inhaling information from all of you great guys, totally envious of your knowledge and images you post.
It may be my weird impression, but I tend to notice that Canon zooms produce a bit sharper images, but then again, I am not specialist, maybe it is someone post-processing boo-boos.
I wish though Canon took the stupid dial on the back of the body and moved it up , like Nikon, it would be more ergonomic. I would like the button for continuous shooting like Nikon has it, rather than having to set it. And the issue with flash...a tad more solid mount would be peachy...
Keith B
07-02-2009, 02:18 AM
We have a guy that shoots for our mag that shoots Nikon. He uses the Nikon 28-70 2.8 and his images are always soft, then he over sharpens them in post. It is so funny, he'll shoot portraits and the eyes will be blurry. Drives me crazy, the editor thinks he so great. Might not be the lens, he probably just sucks.
I read somewhere here that Nikon's wides are supposed to be better. I have read a few reviews that were quite the contrary. I've seen the 16-35 mkII beat out the Nikon 17-35 in more than one review, based on equivalent sharpness but superior low distortion over the Nikon. I hear the 12-24 Nikon is quite good though.
Colin
07-02-2009, 02:52 AM
Awww, Colin, you are funny/emoticons/emotion-2.gif
I hope your current or future beau will have the same appreciation for the fine art of photography as you do. We have an agreement with my husband that I have to learn (means spend $$) photography to keep my sanity, it is my de-stressor and complete fun thing to do. He is completely not into it, but I stay away from his music collection and thousand of CDs and God knows how many Ipods /emoticons/emotion-1.gif Hey, everyone has to have their thing and space!
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It's a wonderful thing when two people can respect each other's interests...
Who uses CDs? Rip them, store them... When he takes up a room to store his vinyl, you guys can think about therapy [:)] Until then, it sounds like quite a good arrangement. [:)]
Maleko
07-02-2009, 05:54 AM
I use Canon because before I got my DSLR I had a go with my Brother in laws Canon and loved it. Neverused Nikon, but in some photos a friend takes with his Nikon the colours don't seem natural, now that could be down to his settings etc, but anyways.
I'm also glad I choose Canon as when I work along side a wedding photographer he uses Canon, so worked out well for me to share lenses!
LOL, Colin, You ARE funny. No, no vinyl here, just tons of Cds, but that is OK with me, I started buying him itunes cards, hopefully he converts one day, he is a stubborn cookie. Problem will be when I acquire enough eqipment we compete for space [;)]
Fat chances, I'll get rid of other stuff first [:O]
My husband just rolls his eyes when i say "I need a new this or new that " but since he knows nothing about photography, he could care less as long as I am happy. I am pretty reasonable though and spread my purchases so we can still pay our mortgage.
Colin, which camera do you own? you are so knowledgeable about photography, when did you start?
Jorundr-Jorgensen
07-02-2009, 12:07 PM
1, I kinda started in a "Canon Surrounding" with everyone using Canon and being satisfied with it I decided it would bve the right choise, and I must say it didn;t fail me yet till this day.
2. My father-in-law owns a D40 and a D60, I used them several times on different occasions. But, really when using them, they really feel unpractical (compaired to my 400D), buttons strangly located, strange menus, ect. And about image quality, sometimes I check his shots and they look fine but this also has a lot to do with the lens.
3. I've compaired several of my C lenses to my dad-in-laws N lenses and I am absolutly more for the Canon once, why? Well first of all, the outter designs of Canon are somehow more smooth, more practical and not so bulky as the Nikons, also personaly, even if it's quite irrelevant, the appearance of any Nikon lens that I've seen doesn't even come near any of the L grade lenses of Canon, and not just that red ring but also the looks of the matarials used.
...But if you really want to know, the thing thats turns me away <span style="visibility: visible;" id="main"]<span style="visibility: visible;" id="topstuff"]<span class="spell"]completely from Nikon is the shutter sounds I know it's <span style="visibility: visible;" id="main"]<span style="visibility: visible;" id="topstuff"]<span class="spell"]totally<span style="visibility: visible;" id="main"]<span style="visibility: visible;" id="topstuff"]<span class="spell"] <span style="visibility: visible;" id="main"]<span style="visibility: visible;" id="topstuff"]<span class="spell"]ridiculous but nothings gives me more motivation and moral when shooting a couple then the sounds of my Canon shutter.. [:$] <span style="visibility: visible;" id="main"]<span style="visibility: visible;" id="topstuff"]<span class="spell"]
lculpin
07-02-2009, 09:37 PM
Oh yeah, I almost forgot - having a high end flash that zooms tp 200mm (but preferably on that isn't ugly like the SB series :P)
ShutterbugJohan
07-06-2009, 02:19 PM
Ability to assign one button to lock both the exposure and focus--at the same time. I find it annoying to only have one function available at any time.
You can do this in Canon, under custom functions. Its under the AF custom fuction menu.
I'm glad to hear Canon has fixed this problem. Unfortunately, I can't set it that way on my 10D.
You can also set it to Back Button Focus so your shutter is only good for expouser and triggering the camera while the * button is for focus.
I have some friends that use their cameras this way, but I find that it hinders my shooting style.
Colin
07-06-2009, 06:17 PM
BES (andrea?)
I currently own a Canon 5D and a 30d. Acquired them sometime in the middle of 2007. Happy to be stuck with them for the near future.
I started into digital SLR with a Canon RebelXT (which I technically own, but a friend uses with my 28-135mm). Got that as a christmas present, and bought myself a 28-135 (which I thought would be the only lens i'd own) in late 2005 after my S-50 took a dive into some waves when the tripod tipped over. It was a really cool P&S. I'm sorry I lost it [:(]
I got into the potential of digital photography with the aforementioned Canon S-50 P&S, learning the whole aperture/ISO/exposure relationship.. I picked that up as a 'family' camera, though the ex took it to use primarily as her own until she used the leftover insurance money to buy herself a 20D and Mamiya 645AFD setup (and I got to pay the leftover medical bills), at which time, I guess middle 2004, I got to actually play with it.
Prior to that, I had (and still have for kid use) a Kodak 1MP digital camera. I got it for my birthday, i think it was like 2001 or something, though I don't know where those pictures would be, if they're to be found at all. kind of a shame... I had some additional add on lenses, but it was entirely automatic, and a really crappy camera, but you could take as many pictures as you liked, and it was fun.
Prior to that, I had a Polaroid and a Ricoh, and I think it was a Fuji or whatever camera that had the disposable flashes the size of large candy bars, and film that was smaller than 35mm, and took images fairly sparsely, as the money to develop issue was kind of a limitation. I primarily took pictures of my friends and myself skateboarding, my shoes, the pyramid of pineapple juice cans in my room... You know, proof of coolness.
It's nice of you to say so, though I look back and think, I really should be better at this than I am considering I've been at this for awhile. I feel like i'm just getting up to speed on a lot of this. I spent so much time just winging it, and not really having any idea of what I was actually doing, let alone what I was trying to do, and how to get it done. Bryan's site, and this forum in fact, have been of immense help. It's a much bigger pond, but I like it [:)], and the interactive part is very, very useful. You can look at photography magazines for information, but I like this better, and so far, I've gotten more out of it.
HiFiGuy1
07-06-2009, 09:43 PM
We have a guy that shoots for our mag that shoots Nikon. He uses the Nikon 28-70 2.8 and his images are always soft, then he over sharpens them in post. It is so funny, he'll shoot portraits and the eyes will be blurry. Drives me crazy, the editor thinks he so great. Might not be the lens, he probably just sucks.
I read somewhere here that Nikon's wides are supposed to be better. I have read a few reviews that were quite the contrary. I've seen the 16-35 mkII beat out the Nikon 17-35 in more than one review, based on equivalent sharpness but superior low distortion over the Nikon. I hear the 12-24 Nikon is quite good though.
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Maybe his AF Microadjustment is not dialed in. His Nikon has that, right? [:D]
BES (andrea?)
I currently own a Canon 5D and a 30d. Acquired them sometime in the middle of 2007. Happy to be stuck with them for the near future.
I started into digital SLR with a Canon RebelXT (which I technically own, but a friend uses with my 28-135mm). Got that as a christmas present, and bought myself a 28-135 (which I thought would be the only lens i'd own) in late 2005 after my S-50 took a dive into some waves when the tripod tipped over. It was a really cool P&S. I'm sorry I lost it /emoticons/emotion-6.gif
I got into the potential of digital photography with the aforementioned Canon S-50 P&S, learning the whole aperture/ISO/exposure relationship.. I picked that up as a 'family' camera, though the ex took it to use primarily as her own until she used the leftover insurance money to buy herself a 20D and Mamiya 645AFD setup (and I got to pay the leftover medical bills), at which time, I guess middle 2004, I got to actually play with it.
Prior to that, I had (and still have for kid use) a Kodak 1MP digital camera. I got it for my birthday, i think it was like 2001 or something, though I don't know where those pictures would be, if they're to be found at all. kind of a shame... I had some additional add on lenses, but it was entirely automatic, and a really crappy camera, but you could take as many pictures as you liked, and it was fun.
Prior to that, I had a Polaroid and a Ricoh, and I think it was a Fuji or whatever camera that had the disposable flashes the size of large candy bars, and film that was smaller than 35mm, and took images fairly sparsely, as the money to develop issue was kind of a limitation. I primarily took pictures of my friends and myself skateboarding, my shoes, the pyramid of pineapple juice cans in my room... You know, proof of coolness.
It's nice of you to say so, though I look back and think, I really should be better at this than I am considering I've been at this for awhile. I feel like i'm just getting up to speed on a lot of this. I spent so much time just winging it, and not really having any idea of what I was actually doing, let alone what I was trying to do, and how to get it done. Bryan's site, and this forum in fact, have been of immense help. It's a much bigger pond, but I like it /emoticons/emotion-1.gif, and the interactive part is very, very useful. You can look at photography magazines for information, but I like this better, and so far, I've gotten more out of it.
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Hi Colin
No, not Andrea, but Bernata.
Wow, thanks for nice post. That is some serious experience in photography! No wonder! This must be why my images sometimes still suck...I am so new at this[:'(] ...well, at least I hope that is it, because with time I may get better [:$]
Do you use both of your cameras at the same time when you shoot? I currently have only 40D and at times I wish for a second body to put a second lens on (of course, greedy part of me want FF [:$] ) so that I could take different shots. Oh well, in the future...we have this thing called mortgage and two high maintenance dogs that complicate my hobby. At least I do not mind or rather insanely love my dogs. And they are ever so patient with my efforts at photography.
Thanks again, you are always so nice and responsive.
Colin
07-07-2009, 02:14 AM
Sorry BES (Bernata).
I don't remember seeing any of your pictures that sucked. It's good to be critical of your own work, so that you keep learning, but also give yourself credit. That also helps to keep you going.
I mean, in a way, we probably all have images that suck. Most every picture I take, at the time, seems worthwhile. Even ifwe elimited the shots that I simply screwed up the exposure, missed the focus, screwed up the depth of field, or the whole thing's just plain blurry, MOST of the pictures I take, when i look back at them a few days later, I wonder why I even bothered with that. It's somewhat of a slippery thing, translating the experience to the image. Some people are more talented, and take to it more quickly, but regardless, it takes time to get the hang of it, and even though the skill we try to accumulate gives us a higher success rate, failure between the successes are just part of the normal work flow. I continually see images here that expand my notion of what can be done, and what I might want to try. One of the really cool things about sharing on this forum is that we can leverage other people's experiences to build our own. You know, "hey, look at this image, what would you have done differently?" or "Wow, that's really cool, how did you do that?"
Sucky pictures are just part of getting the good pictures. Being shy about taking sucky pictures gets in the way of getting the good pictures. I take a lot of sucky pictures. I try not to share too many of them, but I'm still developing my sense of taste as well [:)]
Most of the time, I have just my 5D. If I'm doing super telephoto or macro or stuff that benefits from a high frame rate, I use the 30D. If i'm taking pictures at a wedding, or graduation, or some event where I want to change lenses without changing lenses, I use both, usually with a zoom and a prime. it's handy, though kind of cumbersome. Really, if I could, I'd just have a friend using the other camera, and have some semblance of organization to cover what we wanted to cover.
Actually, at the last wedding, I gave my friend my 24-105 to put on the XT I was loaning him, put the 70-200 on my 30D, and the 85 on my 5D. Between us and the other friend who was carrying around the 1DmkII with the 24-70 and a big flash with a difffusor, i think we probably did pretty well.
Reminds me that I've got to ship some pictures soon. But, yeah, still took a lot of sucky pictures [:)]
Daniel Browning
07-07-2009, 08:58 PM
1) Why did you decide to go with Canon/Nikon?
Canon 5D2 because of lens availability (e.g. 24mm f/1.4), video, read noise, control over black clip and hot pixel abatement. (I'm sure I could think of more too.)
2) Which one do you find easier to use?
Nikon.
3) Lens quality?
They each have their strong points (wide angle zoom: Nikon, wide angle prime: Canon, etc.)
which features from Nikon would you like to see on your Canon?
D700 autofocus, build, and AutoISO. There's a ton more if I thought about it.
rossmurphy
07-09-2009, 03:43 PM
Top notch light weight f4 lenses, Nikon don't have them: 17-40L,24-105ISL,70-200ISL,300 ISL