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Cozen
08-11-2009, 05:55 AM
I read somewhere that I can reverse this lens and it becomes a decent macro lens. But when I searched for reversing rings on B&H they were only FD mount. Can I mount it on a Rebel XT? Or is this a film camera only method?





Does anyone have example pictures?

Jarhead5811
08-11-2009, 09:10 AM
Check out this DIY Project ("http://www.diyphotography.net/diy_reverse_macro_ring).

ugurmebe
08-11-2009, 09:21 AM
There are mounts out there for EF cameras, so check other website's till you find it. Give ebay ago, last i checked they had heaps. If you have a choice between metal and plastic, it wont really matter much for your 50mm but get the metal anyway. then theres now chance of you snapping it by accident.


(sorry about the flash, wouldnt focus at all without it)


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its actually a very sharp macro, just not very practical. Even the slightest movement will mean you have to refocus.


havent really had a chance to try it outside, but it does do its job if you macroing inside!


buy it anyway, its fun to muck around with and its cheap.


here be sample tape


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piiooo
08-11-2009, 09:48 AM
I read somewhere that I can reverse this lens and it becomes a decent macro lens.


Isn't it easier to justget some regular extension tubes? Also, when you do that,you don't espose the mount end of the lens (which is unsealed)to dust and other elements.

Cozen
08-11-2009, 10:03 AM
Well it's not easier at the moment because I already own the 50mm 1.8 lens. I was just curious about it. You make a good point about exposing the mount end. I don't know. Hopefully more people can pitch in on this topic.

Cozen
08-11-2009, 10:03 AM
ugurmebe, that is a cool shot. What kind of lens are you reversing?

ugurmebe
08-11-2009, 10:56 AM
cheers :) its the 24-105mm

Chuck Lee
08-11-2009, 11:13 AM
Cozen,


There is another way. Read This ("http://forums.dpreview.com/forums/read.asp?forum=1029&message=28262014)


The bestsolution is to buy a real macro lens. I have theEF 100 f2.8 Macro. I use it by itself and with a 1.4X Teleconverter. On my 40D that's 224mm at 1.4:1 magnification with a working distance of 6". Of course, the lensdoubles asafabulous portrait lens.


If that's out of your budget, take heart, extension tubes are fairly inexpensive and can accomplish the same thing. (Except for a much shorter working distance) Look for a used set.

piiooo
08-11-2009, 11:43 AM
I already own the 50mm 1.8 lens


Extension tubes will make a great addition to your 50 1.8

Fred Doane
08-11-2009, 01:21 PM
ugurmebe,





Thats a neat shot but my only fear would be using a zoom lens like that is the rear mount isdesigned to take the weight of the lens the front floatingpart of the lens is now holding up the rear. That to me needs to have a warning of "don't try this at home" if you asked me. I personally wouldn't subject my 24-105 to that stress.





Fred~

Cozen
08-11-2009, 06:14 PM
thanks for the link Chuck. There is some good information there.








As for your 100 macro, I'd love to get that lens, but I'm looking into a 70-200 f4 IS first, but wanted some kind of macro capabilities to mess


around with in the meantime. Which teleconverter are you using? I thought the 100 macro wasn't compatibile with the canon one. Is


there a 1.4 tele that I can use with say a 100 macro and the 70-200?

onyxdragun
08-11-2009, 06:51 PM
I have been doing the nifty fifty reverse macro trick with my 18-55mm Kit lens





You can check out some of my photos here: Macro Shots ("http://www.flickr.com/photos/tyleringram/sets/72157621944285858/)


It works alright, I'm actually waiting on a 58mm to 52mm adapter ring that will allow me to attach my 50mm to my 18-55mm without issues.

Cozen
08-11-2009, 07:54 PM
I ran into this on that link u sent earlier. Any thoughts about this?





http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0002YBXBY/qid=1137642964/sr=8-1/ref=pd_bbs_1/103-0558605-1475857?n=507846&s=electronics&v=glance

ugurmebe
08-11-2009, 08:03 PM
hey Fred,


i've worried about that myself, its one of the
reasons i used it only twice. for those 2 instances i always tried wedging a small book under the lens to help relieve the stress on the front. still felt iffy though. it was more for the novelty of it than anything else

Chuck Lee
08-11-2009, 10:34 PM
Which teleconverter are you using?


Tamron 1.4 Pro ("http://www.adorama.com/TM14XPEOS.html?searchinfo=Tamron+1.4+teleconverter )


Here's the 40D + 100 f2.8 Macro


http://i169.photobucket.com/albums/u209/Lee_Photography/Examples/IMG_5288.jpg


Here's the 40D + 100 f2.8 Macro + 1.4 TC


http://i169.photobucket.com/albums/u209/Lee_Photography/Examples/IMG_5296.jpg


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Colin
08-12-2009, 02:49 PM
I'd lean toward the extension tube scenario. Cheap ones.


It's interesting that you can flip the lens around and make it a macro setup, but I'd be nervous about using it that way for practical considerations.

Jarhead5811
08-12-2009, 03:16 PM
I have been doing the nifty fifty reverse macro trick with my 18-55mm Kit lens


AmI understanding that you are using both lenses at the same time?


I've never heard of that kind of lens reversing. How'd you come to do this? Does AF work? Are your pics croped or is that how they turned out?

BCalkins
08-12-2009, 07:08 PM
I agree - go with the extension tubes. You will retain aperture control with EF lenses. Loss of autofocus is kind of a non-issue for macro, but AF can be useful if using another lens for 'closer' work... Also feels a lot more solid and weather/scratch resistant.


Another option from back in my childhood days was the 'trick' of putting a lens backwards on another lens using a ring with threads on both sides. This keeps the mount out of the equation - but you need a wide angle prime or something to throw on the front. In this case you'd keep control of the lens attached to the body.