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Cozen

10-05-2009, 06:57 PM

Mark Elberson

10-05-2009, 07:20 PM

I like my 40D, but after using a friends T1i, there are a few things I like about that camera as well. First off, the LCD. WOW! A world of difference. Secondly, I like the sturdiness of the 40D, but not when it's on my back with 3 lenses, a strobe kit, and a tripod and I'm hiking 9 miles up hill.

With all of that other gear the 9.2 oz difference in weight between those two bodies will probably be negligable.

So I'm debating trading my 40D for a T1i. I know the 40D is faster for sports (which I don't shoot very often), and I know the T1i has higher MP's and the better screen. What else should I take into consideration?

Isvideo important to you?

How about noise levels in high ISO performance?

I think the T1i has the edge but like Bryan said, "these improvements are primarily at ISO settings that are best avoided in the first place"

Another thing I'm factoring in is large printing, since I just came across an opportunity to make some money off large prints, the better quality the large prints are, the better.

Someone double my math but I believe the T1i has about 22% more resolution over your 40D. When you say "large prints" what size specifically? The 40D is very capable of producing over-sized prints. I don't own one and I've never printed above 11X14 but I'm sure someone here has.

One last thing, if I was to make this trade, which camera (body to body) is worth more used?

I'd have to imagine that the XXD body will always retain more value than a Rebel.

I'm sure the T1i is an amazing camera. Unless you really need video though I would much prefer an XXD body. If you had a 20D I might advize you otherwize ;-)

1st-Insp

10-05-2009, 08:12 PM

I just took delivery of a 50D, replacing my Rebel XTi. I cannot believe the difference. The reviews for the 50D said if you were upgrading from a 40D, then just wait. That would tell me that the 40D is also a very good camera. I can't imagine that the newest Rebel is anywhere near at good. Stick with the 40D and buy some better glass or just save for the next replacement.

Tom

Cozen

10-05-2009, 10:01 PM

With all of that other gear the 9.2 oz difference in weight between those two bodies will probably be negligable.

You are probably right. But then again, a little less weight can't hurt.

Isvideo important to you?

At first thought, no video is not important to me, because I have a decent 3CCD prosumer camcorder. But then again this is HD, and I would be able to do some sunset time lapses with my wide angle lens. So it's not important to me, but it might be really nice to have when an opportunity comes along.

I think the T1i has the edge but like Bryan said, "these improvements are primarily at ISO settings that are best avoided in the first place"

This is true. I rarely ever shoot higher than ISO 800. I least I try not to.

Someone double my math but I believe the T1i has about 22% more resolution over your 40D. When you say "large prints" what size specifically? The 40D is very capable of producing over-sized prints. I don't own one and I've never printed above 11X14 but I'm sure someone here has.

I'd say at the very least I'd be printing at 16x20 but mainly larger than that. What are the next 2 sizes up? They will be large prints displayed in an office building, so they have to be fairly large and good quality.

I'd have to imagine that the XXD body will always retain more value than a Rebel.

I agree with you on this. Right now it seems that the 40D used is about the same price as a lightly used T1i with a kit lens. I just wanted to double check other people's thoughts on this one.

Thanks for your input.

Cozen

10-05-2009, 10:05 PM

Don't get me wrong, I really like my 40D and it has produced great
images for me. a 50D would be ideal for me, but I can't afford it
right now. I figured I could potentially trade my 40D for the t1i
straight up. I just want to balance the pros of one over the other.
Let me start a list of advantages. Maybe some of you can help me add
to it or correct me if I'm wrong. Because I know I'm going to mess
this up.

40D (pros)-

more solid build quality

more ISO settings (1/3rd increments)

better auto focus?

better for sports photography (more burst shots)

custom settings

built in PCI port

t1i (pros)

smaller/lighter (if you consider this)

HD video capability, although not perfect

Higher quality VGA LCD

More megapixels = larger print size

Am I missing anything?

DavidEccleston

10-05-2009, 10:09 PM

T1i pro - Focus micro-adjustment.

Cozen

10-05-2009, 10:37 PM

T1i pro - Focus micro-adjustment.
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Sorry can you explain what this is?

Eksmaan

10-05-2009, 11:04 PM

I say skip the T1i. Had it, liked it, sold it, bought a 7D. The camera is awesome! Save a little more just a little longer. If that's not an option, get some nice glass:)

DavidEccleston

10-06-2009, 12:22 AM

Focus micro-adjustments are in the 50D, T1i, and presumably the 7D, and all future bodies. It allows you, per lens, to adjust what the camera considers in focus. If you get a lens that front or back focusesconsistently, you can tell the camera where the focus really is for that lens. If all your lenses are off, then it's likely your body might be slightly off. Again, you can dial in a focus correction, this time to apply to all lenses.

Using the menu is presumably cheaper than sending in a body or lens for an adjustment. Having never laid hands on a 50D or T1i, I can't tell you if you can choose different focus offsets for the wide and tele ends of a zoom (or even if that is a concern that ever pops up). I can't tell you if you can choose the offset for specific apertures. I just know the feature exists.

Fast Glass

10-06-2009, 01:24 AM

How about a used 50D? Keh Camera has it for $890. Im sure you can strechthat much, and if you don't have SDHC cards for theT1ithere goes most of thepricedifference.

But for me, 7D ALL THE WAY!!!!

Cozen

10-06-2009, 01:38 AM

How about a used 50D? Keh Camera has it for $890. Im sure you can strechthat much, and if you don't have SDHC cards for theT1ithere goes most of thepricedifference.

But for me, 7D ALL THE WAY!!!!
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Thanks actually a really good point. Because I do have 14 gigs of CF cards and zero gigs in SD cards. I might have to look in to that. What is Keh camera? Reputable place?

crosbyharbison

10-06-2009, 02:37 AM

I've printed as large as 24x36 with my 40d with decent results; obviously its not the greatest detail up close but is very decent for my uses.

Fast Glass

10-06-2009, 01:31 PM

Keh Camera is a photograpic store like Adorama or B&H, they also buy and sell used equipmet. There are a reputable store.

Because I do have 14 gigs of CF cards and zero gigs in SD cards.

Then it would totally make sense for you to get the 50D over the T1i!! By the way, I have held the T1i, 40D and 50D side by side and the weight diference is negligible.

Here is a link to that 50D, sorry it doesn't have a picture butthe rest of there used 50D's do, http://www.keh.com/OnLineStore/ProductDetail.aspx?groupsku=DC029991095150&brandca tegoryname=Digital&Mode=Digital&item=30&ActivateTO C2=&ID=2&BC=DC&BCC=3&CC=2&CCC=1&BCL=&GBC=&GCC ("http://www.keh.com/OnLineStore/ProductDetail.aspx?groupsku=DC029991095150&brandca tegoryname=Digital&Mode=Digital&item=30&ActivateTO C2=&ID=2&BC=DC&BCC=3&CC=2&CCC=1&BCL=&GBC=&GCC)=.

If you are interested in a full-frame here is a link to a 1ds mark I it costs $1035 in EX condition, http://www.keh.com/OnLineStore/ProductDetail.aspx?groupsku=DC029990890920&brandca tegoryname=Digital&Mode=Digital&item=0&ActivateTOC 2=&ID=2&BC=DC&BCC=3&CC=2&CCC=1&BCL=&GBC=&GCC ("http://www.keh.com/OnLineStore/ProductDetail.aspx?groupsku=DC029990890920&brandca tegoryname=Digital&Mode=Digital&item=0&ActivateTOC 2=&ID=2&BC=DC&BCC=3&CC=2&CCC=1&BCL=&GBC=&GCC)=.

The 1ds only has a high ISO of 1250 1/3 stop from 1600,you could easily push it 1/3 of a stop. Basicaly use it like a 1600 ISO camera. It is the least expesive full-frame cameraby Canon. The grip and feel of the 1ds is awesome! The auto focus is great. The view finder is huge. 35mm sensor has 40% thinner dof with the same lens, great for portriats. You can buy a Sigma 12-24mm and get a crazy 122* degrees of field vew for super dramatic wide angle landscapes! Here is a reviewhttp://www.juzaphoto.com/eng/articles/sigma_12-24_review.htm ("http://www.juzaphoto.com/eng/articles/sigma_12-24_review.htm). Weather Sealing of the 1-d series class, look at this picture http://www.juzaphoto.com/eng/slr_camera_lenses_reviews.htm ("http://www.juzaphoto.com/eng/slr_camera_lenses_reviews.htm).

The 1ds is not for everyone, I was tempted by it but because I am primarly a wildlife photographer I prefer a higher MP 1.6 because I need all the reach I can get. AndFPS is very inportant for me also.But if I had a 800mm L I would probably get a full-frame. Mabye I will get a full-frame later intimeas a second camera but not anytime soon. My brother is sold for a 1-d series camera, doesn't matter which one it is!

But for me, 7D ALL THE WAY!!!!

John

Fast Glass

10-06-2009, 02:31 PM

Oh, Nate.When are you going to get your brand spanken new 7D?!

Black_Dog

10-06-2009, 06:46 PM

<p class="MsoNormal"]Stick with the 40D especially if you are hiking 9 miles up
hill with a backpack full of gear.<span> As
the owner of a pair of Rebels, I’ll be the first to admit that they are toys in
terms of build quality – inside and out.<span>
The camera that works reliably when you get to your destination is far
better than one with more bells and whistles that vibrates to pieces in your
pack before you get there.<span> The weight
savings is negligible – just be glad you aren’t lugging around a Nikon.

Fast Glass

10-06-2009, 11:27 PM

Get a1ds then. Come Nikon can't be that bad, or is it.[:S]

Black_Dog

10-09-2009, 12:38 PM

Not bad at all. Just heavy.

Fast Glass

10-09-2009, 02:28 PM

Now come now, you can't have everything.

Cozen

10-09-2009, 05:28 PM

I think I'll hold out and wait on a good deal for a 50D. Anyone have a good deal for me? =)

Rudyk68@gmail.com

11-13-2009, 03:30 PM

before i brought my 40d, i use 400d( rebel XT) n for both camera the resolution is the same,. but the handling its very different,. i like my 40d for its good menu, button placed, n the shooting program( C1, C2). the grip its also fit the hand not like the 400d (rebel) felt small. Some of my friend already have the T1i( 500d) i tried it,. did't amazed me, neither 50d. beside the lcd n megabytes improvement nothing spesial, my target is hm... the 5d mark 2,.. [:D]. Also one of my senior photographer friend always remind me its that the Man behind the camera is more important, not always the new camera produce good picture,. but the photographer... so my opinion to you is keep the 40d unless you moving to full frame ..