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alexniedra

12-06-2009, 12:02 PM

So I'm thinking of taking the plunge and investing in a 24-70 L. I think that I can really appreciate the extra speed of this lens when I'm shooting in low light (which is frequently). I really like the fact that it's a zoom - I've been debating on maybe getting a prime in this focal length range, but for my needs, this lens seems to be the most practical. My question is, in terms of image quality, will this lens be a (big) step up from my current EF-S 17-85 (mounted on a 40D)? Can you provide some images shot with the 24-70 L to solidify my decision? Help is appreciated.

- Alex

neuroanatomist

12-06-2009, 01:00 PM

The short answer is yes, it's a significant step up in image quality. You may need another lens to cover the 17-24 range, though, as 24mm on a 40D body is 'normal' focal length, not wide angle. You might also consider the EF-S 17-55mm f/2.8 IS USM, which has L lens image quality and preserves the wide end of the focal range (but then you'd obviously lose the >55mm part). If you have another lens to cover that (e.g. a 70-200 L zoom), you'd be set.

soerenrom

12-06-2009, 01:55 PM

Hi

I'm also thinking about upgrading to the 24-70 L from the 17-85 (using a 50D).
I also know that the 17-55 is a good lens, but the L lens seems nice and the focal length will work fine.

But will I miss IS for hand held shoots.
Have anybody experienced qulity issues with this lens. Read a review of callibration problems.

The new 15-85 could also be a great lens, but it's not f/2.8.

Looking forward to try out the 24-70 L.

Keith B

12-06-2009, 02:15 PM

But will I miss IS for hand held shoots.

Have anybody experienced qulity issues with this lens. Read a review of callibration problems.

Quality issues with the 24-70? None. It is a beast. I've never calibrated mine it is pretty darn sharp on my 5DmkII.

I love this lens. I don't know how much I'd like it on a crop though. I don't think it would be wide enough for my likes.

Here are some shots from 24-70 on a 5DmkII

http://www.betterleyphoto.com/Index/Food_files/Media/_MG_5726/_MG_5726.jpg

http://www.betterleyphoto.com/Index/Food_files/Media/_MG_2511alt/_MG_2511alt.jpg

http://www.betterleyphoto.com/Index/People_files/Media/_MG_6037/_MG_6037.jpg

http://www.betterleyphoto.com/Index/People_files/Media/_MG_5914crop/_MG_5914crop.jpg

alexniedra

12-06-2009, 05:45 PM

The short answer is yes, it's a significant step up in image quality.

I knew it! That's what I figured.[;)]

You may need another lens to cover the 17-24 range, though, as 24mm on a 40D body is 'normal' focal length, not wide angle.

Already have that covered - I use the Tokina 12-24mm f/4 to cover anything wider than 24mm.

You might also consider the EF-S 17-55mm f/2.8 IS USM, which has L lens image quality and preserves the wide end of the focal range

I thought about it, but I could see myself going full frame or APS-H in the future.

If you have another lens to cover that (e.g. a 70-200 L zoom), you'd be set.

That's my plan. As my shooting advances, and the need (and funds) arise for a faster telephoto lens, I can go ahead on a 70-200 2.8 L IS USM. In that case, I would have all focal lengths from 12mm to 200mm covered.

asmodai

12-06-2009, 06:27 PM

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So I'm thinking of taking the plunge and investing in a 24-70 L. I think that I can really appreciate the extra speed of this lens when I'm shooting in low light (which is frequently). I really like the fact that it's a zoom - I've been debating on maybe getting a prime in this focal length range, but for my needs, this lens seems to be the most practical. My question is, in terms of image quality, will this lens be a (big) step up from my current EF-S 17-85 (mounted on a 40D)? Can you provide some images shot with the 24-70 L to solidify my decision? Help is appreciated.

- Alex
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So, I often sing the praises of the 24-70. I use it on my 5dII and my 20D, and I love it both. If anything, I find it more in my preferred focal length range on a crop body. I do a lot in low light: I would have missed many, many shots if I couldn't open up to 2.8.

Someone recommended the 17-55. I bought this lens for my 20d, and I was never nuts for it. IS on a 2.8 walk-around is nice, but I was never satisfied with the image quality. I found colors the to be too dull, the barrel distortion to be of a very unpleasant nature, and some other quality of the photos just... lacking. It also accumulated a lot of internal dust; not awful for my shooting since I am generally at wide apertures, but boy it hurts resale value. It might have been because it was the second lens I ever owned, with the first being the 35L, but the fact remains. I'd say just pay the <$300 more for the 24-70 (yey rebates!!) and get the superior lens.

With the 24-70:

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2604/3748911276_7f4210de04_o.jpg

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3530/3748909476_3032f26b55_o.jpg

P.S.

I'm kinda new here. If there is standard netiquette here on what size people should post samples at, let me know it so I don't step on people's bandwidth-toes.

Colin

12-07-2009, 12:55 AM

I LOVE THAT HAIR!

scalesusa

12-13-2009, 05:40 PM

I'd skip the 24-70L, its not great on a crop camera, and very front heavy on a smaller camera body, the balance is poor. On a bif 1 series FF camera, the 24-70 is a different story.

Try the new 15-85mm zoom, or better yet, the 17-55mm EF-S. Its the lens others are compared to for that focal range on a EF-s camera, and its wonderful.

scalesusa

12-13-2009, 05:40 PM

alexniedra

12-13-2009, 06:19 PM

I'd skip the 24-70L

Oops! Already got it. [;)] I really like it so far.

Try the new 15-85mm zoom, or better yet, the 17-55mm EF-S.

I was considering the EF-S 17-55, but I want to maintain full-frame compatibility. I may upgrade to full-frame as my shooting experience (and needs) grow.

Its the lens others are compared to for that focal range on a EF-s camera, and its wonderful.

I agree with you. The EF-S 17-55 is simply superb optically.

its not great on a crop camera,

For my shooting style, the focal range (and compatibility) offered by the 24-70 L is perfect.

and very front heavy on a smaller camera body, the balance is poor.

I agree. Luckily, I'm using the battery grip on my Xti. On the 40D, the balance is much better, but overall, the setup is front-heavy. Maybe a 1D Mark III will solve this issue. [;)]

soerenrom

12-14-2009, 05:18 AM

Sheiky

12-14-2009, 06:38 AM

It is not only sharpness, don't forget colors and contrast.

My friend bought a 24-70L on his 50D for a month ago and I bought a 17-55 for my 50D and I must say that I like my lens better then his. The IS is really helpfull. Winters here in Europe aren't really really sunny, so it comes in handy for a lot of things. Also my mate had a slight issue with minor chromatic aberration on his 24-70 and really I haven't had any trouble with my lens whatsoever. The only thing I can think of is bending lines when you shoot at 17mm. I don't know the proper word for them :P

I suggest the 17-55, especially for the money. I don't think the extra cost for the 24-70 is worth the price, since you don't have a fullframe or weathersealing, but that's just my opinion. Good luck

soerenrom

12-14-2009, 07:59 AM

Yes there are almost no dstortion with 24-70 L. Thats very nice.

Did not see any major diffference in color and contrast to the 17-85. But then again it's very gray and borring in the winter.
And my indoor test was most about if there was enough light.

If canon makes a lens in the range 20-80 with f/2.8 and IS and L build I will love to pay whatever it will cost.

Sheiky

12-14-2009, 08:46 AM

Well I see that you are looking at the 15-85 as well....maybe the 24-105 is good for you as well. It isn't f2.8, but you get very nice IS and a longer focal range. And L build and quality.

For the extra money you would pay for an 24-70, you can buy a 50mm 1.4 or something to cover your real low light setups. Just a thought..