View Full Version : Assignment 4: Break a Rule! -- Congratulations Jorundr-Jorgensen!
Dan Fleming
12-31-2009, 03:23 PM
It is time for Assignment 4, courtesy of piiooo. We have the subject "Break a rule." Post a photo where you purposely broke any of the many composition rules to enhance the image. Please include in your post WHAT rule you broke and WHY you broke it. If possible EXIF data would be awesome, as usual.
I will leave this assignment open till Saturday January 9 because it took a while longer for me to get this up here. That gives 10 days to put in your pictures. Both old and new photos are welcome. I haven't decided on judges yet, if you would like to judge you can start a conversation with me.
Congratulations to Jorndr-Jorgensen for the winning photo!.
Jorundr-Jorgensen
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lynx0069
http://img51.imageshack.us/img51/9291/img1482i.jpg
David Eccleston
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mattsartin
http://lh6.ggpht.com/_txxcOCWRgac/Szgb4yfCTqI/AAAAAAAAJEE/qz-GVLLlAEI/s512/_MG_3128.JPG
Mark Elberson
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crosbyharbison
http://www.crosbyharbison.com/files/vball.jpg
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Dan Fleming
12-31-2009, 03:23 PM
It is time for Assignment 4, courtesy of piiooo. We have the subject "Break a rule." Post a photo where you purposely broke any of the many composition rules to enhance the image. Please include in your post WHAT rule you broke and WHY you broke it. If possible EXIF data would be awesome, as usual.
I will leave this assignment open till Saturday January 9 because it took a while longer for me to get this up here. That gives 10 days to put in your pictures. Both old and new photos are welcome. I haven't decided on judges yet, if you would like to judge you can start a conversation with me.
Congratulations to Jorndr-Jorgensen for the winning photo!.
Jorundr-Jorgensen
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lynx0069
http://img51.imageshack.us/img51/9291/img1482i.jpg
David Eccleston
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mattsartin
http://lh6.ggpht.com/_txxcOCWRgac/Szgb4yfCTqI/AAAAAAAAJEE/qz-GVLLlAEI/s512/_MG_3128.JPG
Mark Elberson
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crosbyharbison
http://www.crosbyharbison.com/files/vball.jpg
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fred2112
12-31-2009, 09:29 PM
HDR composite image !
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I took the picture in Quebec city Canada last week.
I took 3 picture (for the HDR) but the sky was boring.....so ...I took a picture of aurora find on google [:O]!
I remove some big cement block and cone in photoshop !
So 4 image on this one !
ISO 100
F5.6
1/5 sec
Rebel T1i(500d) Tamron 17-50....on tripod !
Its not perfect but that kind of think make me learn more and more photoshop !
Sorry for my bad English bye the way !
Here the original !
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musickna
01-01-2010, 12:23 AM
I've always loved this photograph even though it's all wrong. It's not level, the light through the windows is over-saturated and reduces the contrast, the edges are cut -off - it's a mess.
But I have never seen or taken a better shot that illustrates the ennui of waiting for a bus. I took it in 2004 in Guildford bus station on my old Canon Powershot G2, wobbling on a bench seat and as surreptitiously as I could manage. Today I would try to straighten everything out, clean up the edges, sharpen the focus and balance the light - and it would be a dead shot.
Exposure: 0.002 sec (1/500)
Aperture: f/2.2
Focal Length: 8.3 mm
ISO Speed: 50
Exposure bias +1
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2674/4232951780_bfdcfafe06_o.jpg
Flaming
01-02-2010, 06:17 PM
Hmm. Not too many replies yet. I hope we have not called it a day already saying that is is too hard?
musickna
01-02-2010, 06:24 PM
Hmm. Not too many replies yet. I hope we have not called it a day already saying that is is too hard?
Me too! [:D]Still, I expect lots of people have been busy with their holiday arrangements.
crosbyharbison
01-02-2010, 07:06 PM
http://www.crosbyharbison.com/files/vball.jpg
5d II, Canon 24-70, iso 1600, 68mm, f/3.2, 1/200 sec
Strobist: Nikon SB-600 bare flash @ 1/4, 50mm, behind subject (duh), triggered with Pocketwizard Plus II.
Rule: Never shoot into your lightsource, broke it on accident!
NFLD Stephen
01-02-2010, 11:35 PM
Maybe it would help if someone would post some examples of the rules of photography? As a beginner I am sure I often break these rules without even realizing it!
Stephen
DavidEccleston
01-03-2010, 12:09 AM
Maybe it would help if someone would post some examples of the rules of photography? As a beginner I am sure I often break these rules without even realizing it!I took a shot tonight that must have broken every single rule there is, aside from rule #1 (Go out and take some pictures!) My wife just shut down the other computer with all the Canon software on it, so I can't even verify it's worth posting to this thread (though I'm sure it's more anembarrassmentthan anything)
We were driving downtown, past the Canadianparliamentbuildings. I was in the back seat of the van with our daughter, who had conveniently fallen asleep before we got downtown. We were just turning around, and heading home, when the camera was thrust into my hands with the nifty-fifty attached. Now, the 50mm wouldn't have been wide enough from our location on the road, even if I had ample opportunity to frame the shot, but ample opportunity wasn't available.
The back windows are tinted, so as we went past, I leaned forward to be somewhat between the front seats, and framed the shot out the corner of my eye as we drove past. The front passenger window I shot through was semi-ice, snow, salt, and slushed covered. Myimpeccabletiming managed to get a nice wide stone fence pillar covering one of the two parts of the building lit with coloured lights. A good 1/3 of the building is off the right hand side of the frame, omitting the two other colored parts. Atleast half, likely more, of the peace tower is off the top of the frame. The horizon isn't level. Because it was night, the shutter speed was low, the shot contains both motion blur due to the driving, and camera shake blur due to bouncing around in a moving van. There were obviously no composition rules applied, such as the rule of third.
If our goal is to break as many rules as possible, my shot may do it... however I think the point is to have an awesome shot despite breaking a rule... which is why I'm in no rush to upload it.
musickna
01-03-2010, 12:35 AM
It sounds fascinating, David - I'd love to see it!
musickna
01-03-2010, 12:49 AM
Maybe it would help if someone would post some examples of the rules of photography? As a beginner I am sure I often break these rules without even realizing it!
Stephen
That's a really good question - but it would take a very long entry to list them all. Browse through any photography technique book, or a site such as this ("http://digital-photography-school.com/digital-photography-composition-tips) to get some idea.
The thing is, rules are designed to get you to conform to a certain standard of photography and that standard can be quite different depending on what artistic aesthetic you are striving for. I find the best way to approach this is to take or find a picture that you previously took that differs strikingly from the type of picture you are most comfortable taking. I think we all take certain assumptions and expectations with us when we go to photograph - to break with those is most certainly breaking the rules, even if they are only your rules.
DavidEccleston
01-03-2010, 12:56 AM
It sounds fascinating, David - I'd love to see it!Please, don't hold this photo against me in the future... you asked for it. ;)
T1i+50mm f/1.8 @ f/2.2, 1/80s, ISO 3200. I can't really say I intentionally broke composition rules here, but I can't really claim I was attempting to follow any either.
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DavidEccleston
01-03-2010, 01:06 AM
My entry is going to violate the same rule as CrosbyHarbison... shooting into your light source... except, sadly, mine is a fairly common violation of that rule.
T1i + 18-55mm IS, @ 51mm f/11, 1/125s, ISO 200.
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twistedphrame
01-03-2010, 01:11 AM
I'll be honest, I don't really know any rules.... so I'm just going to assume I break most of them.
mattsartin
01-03-2010, 01:35 AM
I pretty much just know the rule of thirds, this kinda sorta in a roundabout way breaks that. Lake McDonald, Glacier National Park, Montana. I broke this rule because 1) I wasn't paying attention and 2) i like the symmetry of it
tripod mounted Canon XTi w/ Tamron 10-24mm @ 10mm, CPL used
ISO 200 f/8 1/50s
http://lh6.ggpht.com/_txxcOCWRgac/Szgb4yfCTqI/AAAAAAAAJEE/qz-GVLLlAEI/s512/_MG_3128.JPG
lynx0069
01-03-2010, 02:07 PM
rule of thirds?? lol.....took this shot with my 28-135 lens, i was trying to get as close to the green frog as i could without spooking him, and wasnt really paying attention to the framing. i still like the shot, even though he is smack dab in the middle
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sept 6 2009, rebel XSi, 135mm, f/8, 1/160th sec, iso640
musickna
01-03-2010, 02:57 PM
Oooh - we're getting some great photos here.[Y]
Aaron K
01-03-2010, 05:19 PM
There are many things 'wrong' with this image. It's a bit blurry, there are raindrops all over the car window through which it was shot, it's a bit crooked (I should actually fix that...), ..., but it's got this 'CMOS Noir' kind of look to it that I dig. Awesome idea for an assignment. Art is subjective, and sometimes, the book should get chucked out the window!
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2111/2540019899_c37d68f2a3.jpg
(40D & 24-105 f/4L IS @ 40mm, f/4, 1/8, ISO 800)
Aaron K
01-03-2010, 05:20 PM
By the way, I dig the wicked flare in crosbyharbison's volleyball player photo.
clemmb
01-04-2010, 12:06 AM
Rule broken: Cluttered background and flowers center of focus.
5D, 24-105 @ 58mm, f6.3, 1/160, ISO 100, Sunpak 120j off camera right.
The background is a local historic location. An old Spanish mission in Goliad, TX. Not my favorite composition but seems to be the most requested by most of the brides we shoot. The original was a horizontal. She ordered a vertical 24x30 B&W with flowers color. The final print is impressive and will be on display at the Victoria, TX bridal show next Sunday.
Mark
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Keith B
01-04-2010, 12:20 AM
http://www.betterleyphoto.com/Index/People_files/Media/_MG_6035/_MG_6035.jpg
5DmkII 24-70 2.8 @ 30mm f/4.5 ISO400 580EXII fired into 60" Eclipse Umbrella.
This shot has a busy background. I don't think the rule of thirds is in effect in any fashion. I went with Deutsch angle, not for any sense of uneasiness, just essentially to get everything in the shot. I've always like this shot and have gotten a some positive feedback so...
ddt0725
01-04-2010, 12:49 AM
This picture was taking during my first day out using my new T1i. I went to Silver Lake Park in SE Wisconsin hoping to see wildlife, maybe a deer but I was the babe in the woods with this camera ...far cry from the point & shoot I'm used to. Of the many rules I broke, one of them I find funny now ...which shows I have learned something over the last month or so. I used the "Faithful" picture style effect which is for users who prefer to process their photos on their computer but I shot it as a jpeg! It would have been a no brainer to use the "Landscape" picture style forvivid fall colorsas the "Faithful" setting makes the image dull and subdued. Nate's advice from my other post about #1 advice to newbiescomes to mind ...know your camera!
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T1i + EF-S 55-250mm 4/4-5.6 IS @ f/6.3, 1/200, ISO 400, A-Dep
Rodger
01-04-2010, 01:24 AM
Rule broken: Cluttered background and flowers center of focus.
I remember this photo on the feedback thread. I remember the colored flowers getting alot of bad rap.
She ordered a vertical 24x30 B&W with flowers color. The final print is impressive and will be on display at the Victoria, TX bridal show next Sunday.
This proves that you [sometimes] have to [as a business man] bury your photographic knowledge and edit to the customer's liking. I work at Target Portrait studios and countless people make decisions that make no sense photographically. But it keeps them happy and makes the customer reviews go up.
Sorry to go off on a tangent.
-Rodger
Rodger
01-04-2010, 01:39 AM
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2564/3962149799_d1626d187c.jpg ("http://www.flickr.com/photos/rodgerobley/3962149799/)
Haha here's one. How about that classic old rule, "don't cut 18 different images and paste them into one".
Is this valid? I'll submit a different one if not.
-Rodger
Flaming
01-04-2010, 11:31 AM
Here is my entry. In this one although the background is fairly diffuse it is also very busy with different colors and a fairly obvious movement from the waterfall.
Canon 10D EF 24-85mm f/3.5-4.5 USM at 85mm f/5.6 1/90 ISO 100 (and if I am not mistaken) onboard flash.
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piiooo
01-04-2010, 11:32 PM
Oooh - we're getting some great photos here./emoticons/emotion-21.gif
I couldn't agree more!
Mark Elberson
01-05-2010, 08:26 AM
I took this one on the fly while walking my dog. I believe it was one handed and I must have hit the exposure lock on the sun. This was taken in broad daylight at 3:43 PM. It almost looks like a bright moon but it's the sun. I thought it looked cool so I kept it.
By the way, this photo was barely touched. This is NOT a B&W conversion. I checked the RAW file and all I did was up the contrast to 2 in DPP.
Broken Rule: Don't shoot directly into the sun (at least while your camera is in one hand and your dog's leash is in the other)
50D,EF24-105mm f/4L IS USM@ 24mm, f/8, 1/8000, ISO 100
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Jorundr-Jorgensen
01-05-2010, 12:17 PM
Alright, interesting contest! great entries already
Here is my own entry; And the rule broken, obiously the focus.. Instead of getting a nice shot of the window the focus flew straight through it and crashed into the trees, and personally, I love it.
I know this entry is a bit more monochrome then the others but I was thinking that some varity would be good aswell.
Good luck everyone!
Canon 400D, 85mm f/ 1.8, 1/100 1.8
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Btw, I decided to include also the shot that I tried to archive, quite a diference!
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Mark Elberson
01-05-2010, 12:25 PM
Here is my own entry; And the rule broken, obiously the focus.. Instead of getting a nice shot of the window the focus flew straight through it and crashed into the trees, and personally, I love it.
Cool shot. I really like it.
Jorundr-Jorgensen
01-05-2010, 12:51 PM
Cheers Mark! :)
devsalvi
01-05-2010, 05:34 PM
This is such a wonderful thread. Learn from your and others mistakes :) Honestly, ran into very informative "rules".
Thanks & cheers!
Dev
Todd Ovick
01-06-2010, 10:03 PM
Here is my submission, Sumo in Osaka, Japan. No Post processing.
Canon 5D with a Canon 70-200mm F/2.8 L IS @ 200mm, F/2.8, ISO 400, 1/320
Rule broken: never shoot into a light source.....This shot was hard to abide by that rule.
trav.cunningham
01-07-2010, 12:31 PM
I broke two rules with this one. Never zoom during an exposure and never move the camera during the exposure. I did both, zoomed from 18 to 55 mm and twisted my camera.
XSi, 18-55mm IS, 1/6 sec, f22, ISO 100
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2643/4111450654_cf868d07e3_b.jpg ("http://www.flickr.com/photos/travcunningham/4111450654/)
Beautiful... so what is it anyway?
Dan Fleming
01-07-2010, 05:09 PM
Beautiful... so what is it anyway?
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Trees! (The picture links through to his flikr account)
Brendan7
01-07-2010, 07:01 PM
Wow. just wow.
Deva207
01-08-2010, 11:47 AM
my entry:
canon 1000d
tamron 17-50
1/1500, f3.2 iso 100, 17mm
rules broken: not leveled, over contrased, shot in direct light, subject cut (on his right foot)
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2647/4190424889_16bfd96245_o.jpg
Sheiky
01-08-2010, 05:49 PM
My entry:
Rule broken: Not suitable for work (work-environment UN-friendly) [6]
Why did I break this rule? Because I really like it! [:P]
Exif:
Canon 50D + 100mm f2.8 Macro at, f14, iso200 1/200sec flash-fired.
So I was walking around the house, when I noticed these two lovebirds cuttling on my fridge. I couldn't resist the temptation to make some Voyeur footage. Here is the result: [H]
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Comments are welcome [;)]
Keith B
01-08-2010, 05:55 PM
WINNER!
Jorundr-Jorgensen
01-08-2010, 06:13 PM
Ok.. I give up! This is to much! [:D]
RobertA
01-08-2010, 07:55 PM
These photosare of the Oklahoma City National Memorial at dawn. Two broken rules: shooting into the sun and rule of thirds. I've always like shots into the sun at dawn, especially at hallowed places, brings a feeling of renewal. I think the symetry works in this case because of the reflection. The first imageis two images, stitched together and orthorectified. Canon XSi with 18-55mm kit lens @ 18mm, handheld, f/8, 1/30s, ISO 100. The second image is at 1/80s.
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Sheiky
01-09-2010, 03:03 PM
Nice pictures...this competition is really cool [:D]
Thanks for the comments by the way [Y]
Dan Fleming
01-12-2010, 03:43 PM
Hey Guys, the finalists have been posted. We have 6 this time. All the pictures were fun to see, but special congratulations to those six. Vote on the first post for your favorite photo and if you would post a reply at the end to keep this near the top that would be great too!
Thanks. Voting goes till the 16th.
musickna
01-12-2010, 03:54 PM
Excellent choices (even though I wasn't among them)![:D]
Jorundr-Jorgensen
01-12-2010, 05:12 PM
Great! Good luck everyone!
mpphoto12
01-12-2010, 09:46 PM
Im not goin to post a picture but i just wanna say being a good photog is about breaking rules because rule make boring pictures in my opinion and interesting ones with power and emotion are the one that break rules becasue why does it matter when the endd result will be with a smile on the viewers face or a frown or emotions and messages are expressed....
Sheiky
01-13-2010, 05:25 AM
Couldn't agree more! Good luck everybody!
DavidEccleston
01-13-2010, 11:31 PM
if you would post a reply at the end to keep this near the top that would be great too!
I'll reply as this is getting low down the list. Good luck everyone.
Dan Fleming
01-18-2010, 09:50 PM
Congratulations Jorundr-Jorgensen on the win! Good job to all the finalists and others who submitted.
piiooo
01-18-2010, 11:52 PM
Congrats Jorundr-Jorgensen.
DavidEccleston
01-18-2010, 11:57 PM
CongratsJorundr-Jorgensen.
Sheiky
01-19-2010, 04:55 AM
CongratulationsJorundr-Jorgensen! You deserve it![:D]
Jorundr-Jorgensen
01-19-2010, 06:21 AM
Thank you all! I'm truly honoured! [:D] This made my day.
I will soon contact Whatsreal for the next assignment!
Sheiky
01-19-2010, 07:08 AM
You do that [:D]I'm already looking forward to it [H]
kitaoka
01-26-2010, 02:54 AM
Really nice juxtapose and story in this image.