16-35 = 24-70?

[Charlie]

Hi, I'm a first time user and am just wondering whether the 16-35mm f/2.8L II USM on a cropped sensor could equate more or less to the24-70mm f/2.8L USM on full frame.


I know on a cropped sensor the 16-35 resembles more 26-56mm so its obviously not an exact match as the 24-70 but I'm thinking more in terms of the suitability for portrait work.


The aperture is the same, the focal length not hugely different. The 24-70 is considered to be a great studio lens. How successfully could the 16-35 be used as a portrait/studio lens on a cropped sensor or are there other issues, eg distortion, to consider?


Thank you very much.

[Photomage]

Ultimately, it comes down to personal choice, and what kind of result you're after.


Either lens should be fine for portraits.


The wider lens will have a less flat perspective at 16mm, i.e. anything closer to the lens will appear bigger. The crop factor won't affect the perspective.


Have look at some photos here:


http://www.flickr.com/photos/indigopulse/4257989675/in/pool-98322963@N00 ("http://www.flickr.com/groups/98322963@N00/pool/)

[Brendan7]

Making super-wide angle lenses is technologically difficult, and so lenses wider than 30mm are often soft (14mm f/2.8, etc.)


I would personally prefer the 24-70 on full frame OR crop sensor. It's cheaper and I think its range is more useful. The 24-70 is recognized as the "bread and butter" wedding & portrait lens. your choice.


brendan

[Keith B]

I have these lenses but have never used them on a crop but I'll tell you 35mm on the 16-35 is not it's strong point. It is a little soft. Even at 2.8 you will not get a very diffused background either, making it a really bad choice for portraits. You'd be way better off with the EF-S 17-55 2.8 IS.

[Brendan7]

I have these lenses but have never used them on a crop but I'll tell you 35mm on the 16-35 is not it's strong point. It is a little soft. Even at 2.8 you will not get a very diffused background either, making it a really bad choice for portraits. You'd be way better off with the EF-S 17-55 2.8 IS.






what he said. right...[8-|]

[Photomage]

Canon EF-S 17-55mm f/2.8 IS USM Lens Review


http://www.the-digital-picture.com/Reviews/Canon-EF-S-17-55mm-f-2.8-IS-USM-Lens-Review.aspx ("/forums/EditPost.aspx/Canon EF-S 17-55mm f/2.8 IS USM Lens Review)

[SupraSonic]

24-70 mm will do.For crowded places go for 16-35

[Jon Ruyle]

I won't tell you which focal length you should use, but if you go wide, I definitely agree with those who suggest an EF-s lens rather than a wide EF lens. When you buy a lens like the 16-35, you're paying a premium (in weight and often in quality as well as dollars) for a lens that can cover the whole 36mm frame. In other words, similar EF-s lens will be cheaper, lighter, and probably better.

[Jon Ruyle]

I should add that I'm not just saying that because Mark has an EF-S 17-55 for sale [:)]

[Mark Elberson]

I should add that I'm not just saying that because Mark has an EF-S 17-55 for sale /emoticons/emotion-1.gif



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It wasquite serendipitous though!

[Charlie]

Thank you everyone for your feedback.


I do have the 16-35 (by accident- long story!) but its unopened as I decide whether to keep it.


I've certainly been leaning towards returning it but one last option was to use it now as an equivalent to the 24-70 portrait (didn't know how successful that would be) and also as a walk around lens and then down the line as a wide angle on a full frame body.


I think there's better options though.


Thanks again.

[Bombsight]

Let me know if you want to sell that 16-35.[;)]

[tancanon58]

I thought 16-35 is UWA lens and 24-70 is a midrange. Both are perfect matched with FF like 1Ds series , 5Dc and 5D2.

[Charlie]

Let me know if you want to sell that 16-35./emoticons/emotion-5.gif









Sorry Bombsight. I returned the 16-35 a few days ago![:D]


Best wishes.

[form]

The 17-55 IS is a far better substitute for the 24-70L if you have a crop sensor camera. Less expensive, sharper optics, and IS.





The 16-35L II is the least impressive Canon lens I ever bought (and returned immediately). Horrible corners, no better center sharpness at 16mm than my Sigma 10-20 at similar apertures, and very expensive. Buy the Tokina 11-16 if you want the best in ultra-wide for crop sensors. Buy the 17-55 IS if you want the best standard zoom for crop sensors.

[SupraSonic]

Full Frame = 16-35 take the full advantage of full frame.


Crop Sensor = 24-70 this give good shot for potraits