House Finale shot on 5DII's...."It's the future."

[realityinabox]

Don't think this has been posted, but I saw this listed on the House wikia page for the season finale episode:http://house.wikia.com/wiki/Help_Me


"The entire episode was filmed on multiple Canon EOS 5D Mark IIs."


Very interesting. During the final scene, close-up of House where they racked the focus between his eyes and it made me think of the 85 f/1.2 and I was impressed that a film camera could get that kind of slim DOF, then I read that little tidbit.


So if you're a House fan, or interested in the capabilities of the 5DII, you should check it out. Available streaming on-line from hulu, etc...


Anybody know if any other major productions have used the 5DII?





EDIT: Here's an article confirming. I'm about to read it:


http://www.petapixel.com/2010/04/09/house-season-finale-filmed-entirely-with-canon-5d-mark-ii/

[crosbyharbison]

The footage from it certainly looks amazing and as long as you don't find the clip length limiting and record your audioseparately,then for its price its hard to beat.

[Sean Setters]

It was in the Canon News section here on April 13. :-)


"Tuesday, April 13, 2010


Just Announced Apple MacBook Pro Laptops Available for Preorder


B&H has the just-announced Apple MacBook Pro Notebook Computers available for preorder.


Fox's House Season Finale Shot Entirely with 5D Mark II


With the NAB show going on, it is appropriate to learn that Greg Yaitanes has confirmed that Fox's House Season Finale was shot entirely with the Canon EOS 5D Mark II (thanks Jason)."


Unfortunately, there were some severe storms locally which caused the episode to air in standard def. with a "Storm Watch" overlay. I was unhappy about that. I may have to check it out on hulu.

[andnowimbroke]

If your in to the movie aspect of it, planet5d.com has all the lastest and greatest info on the markIV, 5D,7D, and Rebels series movies and videos. There's also a small learning section.

[piiooo]

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I did noticevery shallow DOF on multiple occasions earlier this season. It kinda smelled like a DSLR...
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[Keith B]

I read a while ago, they were using several 5DmkII on the set of Iron Man 2.

[Sheiky]

Still videocameras used for films are a LOT better than the 5D. I can't imagine they would use a 5D for a serious cinematic movie.


I mean 1080p full-hd sounds like a lot, but professional cameras use a much greater resolution. And I'm not sure what resolution cinemas render, but I'm guessing it's greater than 1080p.


For TV-appliances it's a great tool though, since it will never demand a greater resolution than 1080p. At least not for now [A]

[Keith B]

Still videocameras used for films are a LOT better than the 5D. I can't imagine they would use a 5D for a serious cinematic movie.


I mean 1080p full-hd sounds like a lot, but professional cameras use a much greater resolution. And I'm not sure what resolution cinemas render, but I'm guessing it's greater than 1080p.


For TV-appliances it's a great tool though, since it will never demand a greater resolution than 1080p. At least not for now /emoticons/emotion-13.gif






I don't know, the article didn't say what it was used for. Maybe it was used to shoot DVD extra type stuff.


It seems like with some kind of hack the sensor could deliver 5616p footage. The processor probably can't keep up with it though.

[piiooo]

Still videocameras used for films are a LOT better than the 5D. I can't imagine they would use a 5D for a serious cinematic movie.


Yes, but I think this is aboutthe size of the sensor, at which 5DII is better. Thanks to cameras like 5DII a razor thin DOF is possible.



I mean 1080p full-hd sounds like a lot...


1080p is actually "only"2 megapixels, which is obsolete for still picture, butonce you move it at 30 or so fpsit becomes a verydemanding format.



...but professional cameras use a much greater resolution.


And yes, professional cameras use higher resolutions, to the point that they able to achieve panning effects in post. Canon 5DII uses most ofthe surface of itssensor to record and then downscales theimageto1080p.



And I'm not sure what resolution cinemas render, but I'm guessing it's greater than 1080p.


I am not sure here. But remember, we watch movies in the theater from quite a distance, so I would not be surprised if it actually is 1080p. Maybe next time I go to a movie theater I sit in the first raw andtake a closer look at those pixels[:P]

[Sheiky]

Perhaps there's a more informed person around here to clarify all of this, because I can argue with you, but I'm also only assuming things haha. Anyway it's cool what you can do with a 5D2...(thinking what I have to do to achieve the same reults with my 5D [:P]) Videography is a totally different field of work [:D]

[piiooo]

Perhaps there's a more informed person around here to clarify all of this


I am hoping for that, too Good times [:)]

[crosbyharbison]

For movies these days most people are using red:


http://www.red.com/ ("http://www.red.com/)


the reason house shot with the 5d isprimarilybecause of its footprint. It had to fit in small places. Pro cameras are enormous.

[mikehillman89]

the reason house shot with the 5d isprimarilybecause of its footprint. It had to fit in small places. Pro cameras are enormous.
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I can attest to that. A full setup with a film camera can top 200lbs if not more. The super shallow DOF looked amazing on the episode. My dad hated it but I'm a huge fan of macro stuff so I'm used to it. Not really into the show, but when I heard about the episode being shot on a 5D I had to watch it.





-Mike

[StapledPhoto]

I watch House regularly and I think it's obvious with a show like that that they didn't chose the 5DII for the cost savings. They're a high earning show and they already have access to all of the standard film equipment you'd want.


I don't know anything about film or video, but watching the episode it seemed like they shot a lot of it from different points within a very confined space. A major portion of the episode was focused on a patient caught in a collapsed building. I can only guess that they must have chosen to use a SLR to make shooting within this space much easier and to not have to adjust the set as much for the different shots.


Either that or Canon paid them a bunch of money :)

[realityinabox]

I can only guess that they must have chosen to use a SLR to make shooting within this space much easier and to not have to adjust the set as much for the different shots.


Either that or Canon paid them a bunch of money :)





I'm sure it is some combination of both. The director of the episode confirm that the small footprint was appealing for the tight spaces, but it seems like quiet a good publicity stunt for Canon.

[Keith B]

Still videocameras used for films are a LOT better than the 5D. I can't imagine they would use a 5D for a serious cinematic movie.


I mean 1080p full-hd sounds like a lot, but professional cameras use a much greater resolution. And I'm not sure what resolution cinemas render, but I'm guessing it's greater than 1080p.


For TV-appliances it's a great tool though, since it will never demand a greater resolution than 1080p. At least not for now /emoticons/emotion-13.gif






I didn't see anyone post this info so here we go:


Red One is about an APS-C sized sensor at 4k resolution where the 5D mkII is 5.6k.


Movie theater projectors are 2048 dpi. So I'd be willing to bet the firmware in the 5DII's on movie sets are hacked to produce at least the 2048 dpi.

[neuroanatomist]

Movie theater projectors are 2048 dpi.


Wait, wait. They don't use film anymore? Where have I been? [:O]

[Keith B]

Wait, wait. They don't use film anymore? Where have I been? /emoticons/emotion-3.gif






http://fattybobatties.files.wordpress.com/2009/05/captain-caveman1.jpg

[mikehillman89]

Of course they still use film! Nowadays I've noticed that indie productions are using REDs to try and show off a lot... Personally I still like the tried and true film. Or IMAX.... mmm... IMAX


http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/7/7e/Imax_format_srov_35mm.png

[realityinabox]

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Movie theater projectors are 2048 dpi.


Wait, wait. They don't use film anymore? Where have I been?/emoticons/emotion-3.gif






Theaters are increasingly switching over to DLP projection. It is a very costly conversion, so many smaller theaters/chains haven't made the switch, but most larger chains have gone all digital.


You can thank James Cameron for killing film projection (the new 3D fad requires digital projectors). That, and the fact that digital is far cheaper to distribute. A single print of a film isridiculouslyexpensive, so to create enough prints to flood the market opening weekend isridiculouslyexpensive X 4,000+ screens. I understand the economics of moving to digital, but....



. Personally I still like the tried and true film.


I would definitely agree. There is just something more natural and beautiful about good old film.
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[neuroanatomist]

DLP. [N]


Captain Caveman. [Y] Especially with a big bowl of cocoa puffs. Ahhhh, takes me back.


[:P]

[Sheiky]

I didn't see anyone post this info so here we go:


Red One is about an APS-C sized sensor at 4k resolution where the 5D mkII is 5.6k.


Movie theater projectors are 2048 dpi. So I'd be willing to bet the firmware in the 5DII's on movie sets are hacked to produce at least the 2048 dpi.






A bit late, but thanks!


Ps: great picture haha [:D]

[HiFiGuy1]

Still videocameras used for films are a LOT better than the 5D. I can't imagine they would use a 5D for a serious cinematic movie.


I mean 1080p full-hd sounds like a lot, but professional cameras use a much greater resolution. And I'm not sure what resolution cinemas render, but I'm guessing it's greater than 1080p.


For TV-appliances it's a great tool though, since it will never demand a greater resolution than 1080p. At least not for now /emoticons/emotion-13.gif






I didn't see anyone post this info so here we go:


Red One is about an APS-C sized sensor at 4k resolution where the 5D mkII is 5.6k.


Movie theater projectors are 2048 dpi. So I'd be willing to bet the firmware in the 5DII's on movie sets are hacked to produce at least the 2048 dpi.






If I may be so bold as to intervene, movie theater projectors are, in fact, not 2048 Dots Per Inch. The three imaging devices in a DLP Cinema projector are currently 2048 x 1080p resolution. There is a separate imager for red, green and blue channels. I haven't bothered to look this up, but I am pretty certain that most DLP Cinema presentations not in CinemaScope use 1998 x 1080 to maintain the proper aspect ratio. The 2048 max width allows a wider screen when used with the typical anamorphic lens, which stretches the image source laterally with a 1.33:1 ratio. This in combination with the full 2048 imager width provides for an approximately 2.70:1 aspect ratio, for epic stuff like Ben Hur without the need for scaling, which might well be visible and undesirable on a screen the size of those in typical commercial theaters.


The reasoning for this is partially the fact that most movies currently are shot with CinemaScope or equivalent aspect ratios, which are roughly 2.37:1. Movies that are not shot with Scope are shot using Academy Standard, or flat, which is 1.85:1. This is very near the HDTV standard, obviously.


This differs from the chipset that most consumer grade displays use, which is 1920 x 1080p. The sensor in the 5D is 1.78:1 or 16:9, though certainly with further cropping, or even better an anamorphic lens attachment, it would be fine for 2.37:1 stuff.


The Red is a very good camera. My business partner just helped with a movie that was shot on a Red and is now being considered for distribution by Sony Providence.

[Keith B]

Still videocameras used for films are a LOT better than the 5D. I can't imagine they would use a 5D for a serious cinematic movie.


I mean 1080p full-hd sounds like a lot, but professional cameras use a much greater resolution. And I'm not sure what resolution cinemas render, but I'm guessing it's greater than 1080p.


For TV-appliances it's a great tool though, since it will never demand a greater resolution than 1080p. At least not for now /emoticons/emotion-13.gif






I didn't see anyone post this info so here we go:


Red One is about an APS-C sized sensor at 4k resolution where the 5D mkII is 5.6k.


Movie theater projectors are 2048 dpi. So I'd be willing to bet the firmware in the 5DII's on movie sets are hacked to produce at least the 2048 dpi.






If I may be so bold as to intervene, movie theater projectors are, in fact, not 2048 Dots Per Inch. The three imaging devices in a DLP Cinema projector are currently 2048 x 1080p resolution. There is a separate imager for red, green and blue channels. I haven't bothered to look this up, but I am pretty certain that most DLP Cinema presentations not in CinemaScope use 1998 x 1080 to maintain the proper aspect ratio. The 2048 max width allows a wider screen when used with the typical anamorphic lens, which stretches the image source laterally with a 1.33:1 ratio. This in combination with the full 2048 imager width provides for an approximately 2.70:1 aspect ratio, for epic stuff like Ben Hur without the need for scaling, which might well be visible and undesirable on a screen the size of those in typical commercial theaters.


The reasoning for this is partially the fact that most movies currently are shot with CinemaScope or equivalent aspect ratios, which are roughly 2.37:1. Movies that are not shot with Scope are shot using Academy Standard, or flat, which is 1.85:1. This is very near the HDTV standard, obviously.


This differs from the chipset that most consumer grade displays use, which is 1920 x 1080p. The sensor in the 5D is 1.78:1 or 16:9, though certainly with further cropping, or even better an anamorphic lens attachment, it would be fine for 2.37:1 stuff.


The Red is a very good camera. My business partner just helped with a movie that was shot on a Red and is now being considered for distribution by Sony Providence.







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Sorry. dpi isn't what I meant. I get in the habit of saying it. I meant 2048 total. Thanks for stepping in. I just did quick web search out of curiosity.
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