5D Mark III available for preorder in Australia !!!!!

[btaylor]

Now available for pre-order in Australia. Ted's is a very reputable chain of camera stores over here (although I don't use them because retail in Australia is ridiculously expensive)

http://www.teds.com.au/canon-eos-5d-mark-iii

Blurb from Teds:
(http://www.teds.com.au/canon-eos-5d-mark-iii)
Take your photography to another creative planet. With the EOS 5D Mark III you’ll achieve image quality like never before in both stills and video. (http://www.teds.com.au/canon-eos-5d-mark-iii)The EOS 5D Mark III delivers the best of everything, delivering unsurpassed image quality, high-performance operation, plus a range of advanced and creative features that will whet the appetite of any advanced amateur or professional photographer. The EOS 5D Mark III delivers images like you have never experienced before, as a result of the incredible 22.3 megapixel Full Frame CMOS sensor and fast DiG!C5+ image processor. Plus you’ll be able to push your photography to new heights with numerous creative features such as HDR and Multiple Exposure modes. The EOS 5D Mark III has refined the high-performance DSLR camera category


(http://www.teds.com.au/canon-eos-5d-mark-iii)610

[btaylor]

DESCRIPTION
Unsurpassed Image Quality

22.3 Megapixel Full Frame CMOS sensor
DiG!C 5+ Image Processor
ISO 100-25600 (expandable to L:50 H1:51200, H2: 102400
Full HD Movie (ISO 100-12800 (H:25600)

High Performance Operation

61-point high-density reticular AF (up to 41 crosstype points)
6.0 fps for high continuous shooting
Intelligent viewfinder with approx. 100% coverage
3.2-type, approx.1.04m dot (3:2 wide) Clear View LCD II
iFCL metering with 63-zone dual-layer sensor
Shutter durability of 150,000 cycles

High end features

Silent & low vibration modes
Dual card slots (CF & SD)
High Dynamic Range (HDR) Mode
Multiple Exposures
Comparative Playback function
Improved durability & water and dust resistance


Available Colours
Black


Megapixels
22MP


Sensor Size
36 x 24mm


ISO/Sensitivity
100 - 25600


Image Stabilisation
-


Autofocus Points
61 points


Lens Mount
Canon


LCD Size
3.2"


Touchscreen
-


Liveview
Yes


Viewfinder
Optical TTL


Min Shutter Speed
30 sec


Max Shutter Speed
1/8000 sec


Built-in Flash
-


Continuous Shooting Speed
6 fps


Self Timer
10 sec, 2 sec


Metering
Centre-weighted, Spot, Evaluative, Partial


Video Resolution
Full HD 1080


Memory Type
Compact Flash


Connectivity
USB 2, HDMI, Mic Input, Wireless (optional)


Battery
LP-E6


Battery Type
Lithium-ion


Charger
Includes Li-Ion Charger


File Formats
AVI, RAW, H.264, MOV, MPEG-4


Dimensions
152 x 116 x 76mm


Box Contents
Battery Pack LP-E6 .. Battery Charger LC-E6 .. AV Cable AVC-DC400ST .. Interface Cable IFC-200U .. Eyecup Eg .. Wide Strap EWEOS5DMKIII .. CR1616 Lithium Battery


Skill Level
Professional, Semi-Professional


Lifestyle Uses
Portrait, Sports, Travel/Landscape


Waterproof
-

[btaylor]

So - my initial impressions:

22MP isn't astounding, I thought they'd have bumped it up a bit with Nikon's release of the D800 @ 36MP. But we all know MP isn't everything and 22MP is reasonable.

The new 61 pt autofocus will be VERY interesting, and 41 cross type points too! Hopefully the AF gets some major improvements to the 5D2, looks promising thus far. In fact it almost looks like it's the same AF system in the 1Dx (however it doesn't appear to have inherited its metering system)

Price - looks like $4200 RRP (AUS) so it's certainly not cheap, but it's generally more expensive over here. Will be a hard one to justify upgrading right now either way.

100% viewfinder is great. Not sure what's "intelligent" about it yet.

Digic! 5 + dual CF/SD slots is really nice too. I like the idea of peace of mind being able to back up to a second card.

HDR mode also peaked my interest. Sounds like an in-camera bracketed shot/ multi exposure blending. I wonder if it will output to jpeg only or to a raw file?

Looking forward to more info coming out. Very excited. The 5D2 and 24-70mm f/2.8L might be on the market soonish...

[Sheiky]

Wow, I haven't seen a pre-order yet, but I saw some photos of it earlier on.

22MP isn't that much indeed, but with the Digic5 it might be handling noise even better than before.
I see better AF, faster burst-rate, better metering, higher ISO, HDR-mode(?), dual card slot, better weather-sealing, headphone plug and a few other things. The headphone plug might suggest that the video-mode is upgraded as well. But then, the price has been upgraded also, which isn't a good thing :p
But it definitely looks interesting to me. Not that I will upgrade any time soon though :o

[Sean Setters]

I want sample pictures taken with the camera--low and high ISO. :-)

[dsiegel5151]

I told a buddy of mine a year ago that I would by a 5D mark II if it had autofocus and weather sealing as good as the 7D and as high of a frame rate as at least my 40D. Does this mean I have to buy one of these? The only number on that spec list that I don't like is the 150,000 shutter cycle durability. However, I haven't worn out a shutter yet, so that probably doesn't really matter.

[Dave Johnston]

The only number on there that I don't like is the price.

A $1,000+ dollar premium from the last model to this is a hell of a step-up, especially after waiting 4 years for it.

[btaylor]

Indeed Dave, it's a lot of money. RRP is generally inflated in Australia so it might work out better for those of you in the US though.

I'm interested to see what the flash sync speed will be. 1/320s would be nice.

[Sean Setters]

I'm interested to see what the flash sync speed will be. 1/320s would be nice.
I'm interested in that figure too. I'm simply hoping for 1/250 sec instead of 1/200.

[HDNitehawk]

Where is the official announcment?

[HDNitehawk]

I think your list may be a wish list. Canon Rumors is saying the official announcement will be tonight at Midnight Eastern Time.

[Sean Setters]

Actually, I think the list at the top of this post (pulled from the retailer's webpage) is probably pretty darn accurate. My guess is that the retailer jumped the gun a bit and posted the info provided by Canon a bit early by mistake. Everything we've seen so far points to those specs being accurate.

[HDNitehawk]

Actually, I think the list at the top of this post (pulled from the retailer's webpage) is probably pretty darn accurate. My guess is that the retailer jumped the gun a bit and posted the info provided by Canon a bit early by mistake. Everything we've seen so far points to those specs being accurate.

It is the same list posted on Canon Rumor’s site. I am sure it has some basis, whether fully accurate or not. He could have just as easily borrowed it from Canon Rumors just so he could be the first to offer the camera for preorder.

If it has a 1D class AF system this camera will be a big jump up from its predecessor.

[Kayaker72]

....all the rumors have had "NDA's ending on March 2".....isn't it already March 2 in Australia? May explain it.
:confused:

But those are very consistent with the rumors I have seen. Overall, looks like a great camera. I'll even consider getting one...after they are available and reviewed, etc.

[Sean Setters]

I never got a 5D Mark II. If I decide to purchase a FF camera in the not-so-distant future, my options include paying approx. $1,750 - $1,800 for a used or refurbished 5D Mark II (or $2,000 for a new one), or shelling out approx. $3,500 for a spiffy new 5D Mark III. For my portraiture work, I've found state-of-the-art autofocus simply isn't necessary (and when it is, I can pull out my 7D). Otherwise, if the spec list is accurate, there's little for me to justify the extra $1,500 investment. Who knows, I may sing a different tune in 6 months, though, once more information is available...

[Kayaker72]

The 7D is still a better camera than I am a photographer. So I can see staying with the 7D for awhile longer, if not years. That said, this time next year, hopefully the 5DIII is on shelves, the 7DII is announced....I might consider an upgrade.

[HDNitehawk]

[QUOTE=Sean Setters;65553]I never got a 5D Mark II. If I decide to purchase a FF camera in the not-so-distant future, my options include paying approx. $1,750 - $1,800 for a used or refurbished 5D Mark II [QUOTE]

If the 5D III does have the AF system of the 1D series, I would go for it.

If that is the case I will know where you can get a very nice used 5D II.:)

[Sheiky]

100% viewfinder is great. Not sure what's "intelligent" about it yet.
Probably level indicators and that sort of stuff...I guess:D

The 7D is still a better camera than I am a photographer. So I can see staying with the 7D for awhile longer, if not years. That said, this time next year, hopefully the 5DIII is on shelves, the 7DII is announced....I might consider an upgrade.
Same here Brant(albeit I have a 5D2). There are a few things that would be nice to have, but definitely not good enough to pay such a premium price for. Even the AF on the 5D2 hasn't let me down yet...not even during sports-photography:o

If the 5D III does have the AF system of the 1D series, I would go for it.
Good point. If it turns out it is: what would the 1DX have that justifies the enormous price-difference over the 5D3?

[Sean Setters]

Good point. If it turns out it is: what would the 1DX have that justifies the enormous price-difference over the 5D3?
Maybe complete weather sealing, two CF cards, and more FPS?

[Sheiky]

Would that justify twice the price to you?:rolleyes:
In the pre-order add it says that the 5D3 would already have increased weather-sealing and I think the 5D2 already does a good enough job for anyone but the real heavy duty photographers. The same counts for the frame-rate. It's nice to get 10FPS, but how often would you really need it? And for the times you do timing your shots can be just as important as the frame rate.

[HDNitehawk]

Would that justify twice the price to you?:rolleyes:
In the pre-order add it says that the 5D3 would already have increased weather-sealing and I think the 5D2 already does a good enough job for anyone but the real heavy duty photographers. The same counts for the frame-rate. It's nice to get 10FPS, but how often would you really need it? And for the times you do timing your shots can be just as important as the frame rate.

I don’t need 10fps but I sure use it on my 1D IV all the time for wildlife and sports.
It is very nice to have.

I think the 5D III with those specs is still a great camera for still life work. I doubt the AF system will meet the requirements to match the performance of the 1D's with action. Even if they use the 1D's AF system I bet canon cripples the AI servo mode so it will not compete with the 1D X. It will probably not have the same options available for customizing the AF system. But if it can at least be as accurate as the 1D series it is a big upgrade IMO.

[Kayaker72]

If it turns out it is: what would the 1DX have that justifies the enormous price-difference over the 5D3?

If those are the specs, and I hope they are, and the IQ on both the 5DIII and 1DX turn out to be excellent, then I think the 1DX becomes a smaller production niche camera for pros that need the fps and super high ISO performance. The 5DIII becomes the more mass produced upper echelon camera for everyone else.

I like it. If true, it is more of Canon adjusting to the market rather than trying to get the market to adjust to Canon.

[Sean Setters]

Would that justify twice the price to you?:rolleyes:
Nope. Then again, I haven't been able to justify the base cost of a 5D Mark II, either.

Compared to the 7D, I think the 5D Mark II's benefits for me include a slightly higher resolution, cleaner files at high ISOs, and shallower DOF at the comparable apertures. When it comes to the 5D Mark III, it seems like the only additional feature I'd appreciate is the upgraded autofocus system. Truth is, I usually do static portraiture--I don't really need a top-of-the-line autofocus system. And if I do, the 7D's up to the job.

The price of a used 5D Mark II may drop low enough in the next year for me to purchase one just to see if the benefits are worthwhile to me. Until that time, I'll use what I've got. It seems to be working alright so far...

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[neuroanatomist]

If the 5D III does have the AF system of the 1D series, I would go for it.

Good point. If it turns out it is: what would the 1DX have that justifies the enormous price-difference over the 5D3?

Based on the spec list, it won't have 'the same AF' since the tracking capabilities of the 1D X use data from the 100K pixel RGB metering sensor, and the 5DIII is not getting that, but rather the 63-zone iFCL metering found in the T3i/600D, 60D, and 7D.

As to what justifies the price difference, there's not nearly the gap that existed between the 5DII and 1DsIII, and that's a good thing. The 1D X has faster fps, better build and sealing (the 5DIII will likely be to 7D standards, good but not the best), better metering, likely a higher flash sync speed (1/250 s vs. 1/200 s, I'd guess, but no specs on that yet), spot metering linked to any AF point, one more ISO stop, well over double the shutter durability, two CF card slots (vs. 1 CF + 1 SD), and also likely the customizability of the 1-series.

As an example of the latter, when shooting with a wide lens (e.g. 35L) in Av mode, the camera will allow the shutter speed to fall to 1/30 s which is too slow for people moving, so I'd rather it bump ISO instead. With a 1-series, you can set up min/max values for shutter speed, aperture, and ISO to suit various situations.

Personally, I've got some serious thinking to do... The 5DIII is most of want I want from the 1D X, and half the price. I can afford the 1D X, but $3K to spend on other stuff (24-70mm f/2.8L II?) would be nice...

[Rocco]

Not to mention the Ethernet port on the 1Dx. Awesome if you're in a studio shooting tethered.

[Dr Croubie]

teds.com.au:
5D3 + 24-70 (i presume mk I) kit $6800

US:
5d3 (lets presume $3500)
24-70 $1300 (b+h price)
qantas Sydney - LAX and return: $1300
total: $6100


Which is the better deal here?

[btaylor]

Based on the spec list, it won't have 'the same AF' since the tracking capabilities of the 1D X use data from the 100K pixel RGB metering sensor, and the 5DIII is not getting that, but rather the 63-zone iFCL metering found in the T3i/600D, 60D, and 7D.


Precisely where I was heading, basically the bare bones of the 1DX AF system minus the metering system. So who knows where it sits.



likely a higher flash sync speed (1/250 s vs. 1/200 s, I'd guess, but no specs on that yet),
spot metering linked to any AF point,
you can set up min/max values for shutter speed, aperture, and ISO to suit various situations.


These are the three things that frustrate me the most about my 5D2. If those were rectified (along with a good AF system) it will take a lot of convincing for me NOT to upgrade.


It is the same list posted on Canon Rumor’s site. I am sure it has some basis, whether fully accurate or not. He could have just as easily borrowed it from Canon Rumors just so he could be the first to offer the camera for preorder.

No. I was following the canon rumors forum last night and the spec list came after the screen grab from Ted's was posted there. Ted's is pretty much the largest chain on camera stores in Australia, I highly doubt they would pull their info from a forum rather than from Canon itself.


I think the 5D III with those specs is still a great camera for still life work. I doubt the AF system will meet the requirements to match the performance of the 1D's with action. Even if they use the 1D's AF system I bet canon cripples the AI servo mode so it will not compete with the 1D X. It will probably not have the same options available for customizing the AF system. But if it can at least be as accurate as the 1D series it is a big upgrade IMO.

I agree that the 5D3 probably won't match the 1D series in terms of autofocus, but I wouldn't expect it to. If it has AF performance on par with the 7D I'd be happy enough.

[btaylor]

teds.com.au:
5D3 + 24-70 (i presume mk I) kit $6800

US:
5d3 (lets presume $3500)
24-70 $1300 (b+h price)
qantas Sydney - LAX and return: $1300
total: $6100


Which is the better deal here?

I'd be getting on the plane. Add another $1000 for me though, I need to get from Mount Isa to Brisbane first!

[clemmb]

Now available for pre-order in Australia. Ted's is a very reputable chain of camera stores over here (although I don't use them because retail in Australia is ridiculously expensive)

http://www.teds.com.au/canon-eos-5d-mark-iii

Looks like Ted's has removed it from their web-site:eek:

[Dr Croubie]

Looks like Ted's has removed it from their web-site:eek:

Surely that wasn't a sly plan by Ted's, the traffic to their site must have gone crazy over the last few hours... [/cynical]
(Although, even if people had visited the site, they would have laughed at the price and kept going.)

Probably more like, "our NDA is lifted on March 2nd, it's march 2nd in australia, lets unveil it" then a few hours later, "oops, we're meant to life the NDA on march 2nd USA time, now canon are angry"

[HDNitehawk]

There was this much hype with the 1D IV announcement.

Wait....there wasn't a 1D IV announcement, remember everyone saw the 1D X coming. Not.....

Should I wait up tonight to see if canon comes through?

[neuroanatomist]

I'm still waiting for the official announcement, and clarity on some on my assumptions above (flash sync, AF point-linked spot metering, customization). The other question is low-light AF sensitivity - all the non 1-series bodies are -0.5 EV, and the 1D X is -2 EV, so where does the 5DIII sit? I was shooting in an aquarium last weekend, and the 5DII AF was really struggling with the light level (center point, which is the best one, and 35mm f/1.4L so the lens wasn't limiting).

Right now, I'm leaning toward the 1D X. 2x the frame rate and 1 stop more ISO are part of it, but the main thing is the build quality. It's great that the 5DIII battery grip will (apparently) have the 2nd joystick for ergonomics similar to the 1D X. But, I've never been thrilled with the flex between body and grip - the benefits of the grip do outweigh the annoyance, but I'd prefer it integrated. More important is the weather sealing. Earlier this evening, my daughters were out playing in the yard in what's most likely the last snow we'll see in New England this year. They were having a blast, but I have a strong feeling that it would require 1-series sealing to withstand the below-freezing temps with freezing rain/snow mix that was coming down, -2 EV sensitivity for the AF to have a chance well past sundown under overcast, and the best ISO performance possible - which adds up to the 1D X.

[Kayaker72]

I am not planning on it....at this point I expect the announcement to be pretty anti-climatic (internet ruins so much fun).....it would only get exciting:
1. If the specs are very different that what has been posted.
2. If there is a detail of the camera that you are very interested to learn about.
3. If they announce new lenses to go with the 5D3
4. If they announce other bodies (5DX, 7DII, et) tonight/tomorrow as well.

I plan to wake up tomorrow and look forward to see what Canon has given us for the 25th anniversary of EOS..........

[DavidEccleston]

Should I wait up tonight to see if canon comes through?

That depends. If they announce tonight, it'll probably be a few hours before they get around to putting sample pics up. So, you'll just get official confirmation, and official specs.

Will you sleep better knowing there really is a new body, or can you find out in the morning. Will the "Is it really coming?" question keep you up all night if you do go to bed?

It's not like you can do anything with the information for months. I know I'll wait and find out tomorrow.

[HDNitehawk]

It might just be amusing if Canon Rumor's leaked specs are way off. Or if it is a different camera all together. I imagine I will look on line to see what happens, after all it is supposed to take place right after the last episode of Family Guy tonight.

[Dr Croubie]

Finally, a good reason for being in Australia's timezone. There's so many good deal I miss out on ebay because of last minute-snipers at 3am when i'm sleeping. But this announcement is timed perfectly in the middle of my lunch-break so I can get all the info straight away (and do nothing with it, seeing as i'm not buying one). But it's still nice to be able to see stuff live for once...

[Keith B]

The other question is low-light AF sensitivity - all the non 1-series bodies are -0.5 EV, and the 1D X is -2 EV, so where does the 5DIII sit? I was shooting in an aquarium last weekend, and the 5DII AF was really struggling with the light level (center point, which is the best one, and 35mm f/1.4L so the lens wasn't limiting).


Just about the only reason I use ST-E2 anymore.

[HDNitehawk]

http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/847545-REG/Canon_5260A002_EOS_5D_Mark_III.html

[btaylor]

Max sync speed remains at 1/200sec. hmmm

[Steve U]

Here are some sample images. Image 3 will be interesting to view when it is up, they are using the 50/1.2 as a landscape lens.
http://cweb.canon.jp/camera/eosd/5dmk3/samples/

[Mark Elberson]

Expect to see my two 5D Mark IIs up
For sale soon!

[Dr Croubie]

http://blog.planet5d.com/2012/03/canon-eos-5d-mark-iii-hands-on-what-isnt-in-the-canon-press-release/

Here's what you were all waiting for (or at least me):
"Minimum light level ev-2 is the same as the Canon EOS-1D X." (talking about the AF)
"Auto-exposure bracketing – 3,5,7"

[Kayaker72]

Ok...I am impressed. It doesn't seem that they tried to cripple the 5DIII compared to the 1DX in any dumb ways (unless I am missing something). 1DX has better weather sealing, faster fps, ISO advantage, dedicated AF processor, etc. But for an extra ~$3k. It also seems that the major issues people had with the 5DII have been addressed. Seems to be a real solid camera.

Yet....there are still threads on CR with people complaining....:rolleyes: :confused:

Of course, I am still very interested in some independent hands on reviews and analysis. It'll be interesting to see if Canon has caught up to Nikon's DR range, etc.

[btaylor]

Here are some sample images. Image 3 will be interesting to view when it is up, they are using the 50/1.2 as a landscape lens.
http://cweb.canon.jp/camera/eosd/5dmk3/samples/

Is it just me or does the ISO6400 image look amazing (in terms of noise levels). I'd like to know, though, whether or not in-camera / long exposure noise reduction has been used here because it looks a little washed out.

In saying that, I just finished reading the press release and it really looks like a superb camera. The AF system sounds marvelous. I think I'll be looking to sell some gear to upgrade this year.

Well done Canon!

[Dave Johnston]

Well crap.

I've got 13 days left of my 30 return period to decide whether I wan't to return my 5d mk II and pay the 1000 bucks for an upgrade.


Opinions?

[iso79]

Well crap.

I've got 13 days left of my 30 return period to decide whether I wan't to return my 5d mk II and pay the 1000 bucks for an upgrade.


Opinions?

If you got the cash go for it. If not, stick with the 5D Mark II until you grow out of it and have enough cash saved up for the 5D Mark III.

[HDNitehawk]

Well crap.

I've got 13 days left of my 30 return period to decide whether I wan't to return my 5d mk II and pay the 1000 bucks for an upgrade.


Opinions?

Did you pay $2,499 for the 5D II?
If you did I would ship it back any way, you could beat that.

For me it would be a money issue. Would I mind paying another $1000 to $1500 more?

[Kayaker72]

Is it just me or does the ISO6400 image look amazing (in terms of noise levels). I'd like to know, though, whether or not in-camera / long exposure noise reduction has been used here because it looks a little washed out.

In saying that, I just finished reading the press release and it really looks like a superb camera. The AF system sounds marvelous. I think I'll be looking to sell some gear to upgrade this year.

Well done Canon!

Agreed...check out Image 10 and 15 at ISO 3200.....

[DavidEccleston]

It's not like you can do anything with the information for months. I know I'll wait and find out tomorrow.
I stand corrected. Available end of March... that's not months. Looks like a sweet camera.

We were considering a 7D for improved servo performance for our doggies. There are only so many in focus tails you can take before it gets to you. Assuming they've fixed the 5D servo performance, I wonder what I'd have to sell to afford this beast instead.

[dsiegel5151]

My Jeep might not get any trail improvements this year. A 5D with 1DX autofocus (I'm assuming the 1DX autofocus system is going to be awesome), 6 frames per second, and increased weather sealing? It's almost like having a mini-1Ds for almost half the price! And this statement was very encouraging if true (if true): "As an example, he says [Westfall], an ISO 3200 picture shot with the new model has roughly the dynamic range, noise and other characteristics of an ISO 800 picture shot with its predecessor." I never once felt that I have been hampered by megapixels, but those 4 attributes (autofocus, frame rate, weather sealing, and high iso capability) are definitely upgrades (especially b/c I have a 5Dc) that I feel would improve my full frame shooting enjoyment.

[Dave Johnston]

If you got the cash go for it. If not, stick with the 5D Mark II until you grow out of it and have enough cash saved up for the 5D Mark III.

5DII is in the mail.... 5D III is on the wait.

/Rubs hands maniacally