T5i a monumental upgrade

[HDNitehawk]

Looking at this upgrade, knowing the camera is intended for the entry level DSLR crowd I have to say; Huh?
Most if not all of the improvements will go unnoticed to the novice buying this camera.
Lack luster releases by Canon seems to be a pattern the last few years.

Canon needs to release a few bodies with a WOW factor.
Where is the 7DII, the new M body and the high MP camera that everyone asks for?

[Black_Dog]

I agree with you that I want to see some pizzazz from Canon in a 7DII. Furthermore, I hope the rumored 70D blows us away. The M body launch was a fiasco, although the latter is so new I don't hope to see an upgrade this soon.

However, I think the 5Ti has to be viewed in terms of the upgrade to the kit lens packaged with it, which is how most people will buy it. The new 18-55mm f/3.5-5.6 IS STM lens, with a UD element, is a great improvement for the Rebel kit, even if improvements to the body are slight. Remember, the T4i is less than a year old (released June 15, 2012). With the step motor drive in the kit lens the flagship Rebel now takes full advantage of the movie mode AF feature, so as a whole the lens and body kit is a much improved off the shelf amateur video camera.

Perhaps Canon should have held off launching the T4i until this lens was ready. That would have made a much bigger splash.

[trav.cunningham]

I'm confused. The two new DSLRs have the DIGIC 5 processor, but the two new PowerShots have the DIGIC 6? I would think the DSLRs would get the new processor as well.

I agree that the upgrades in the T5i will go unnoticed by the entry level DSLR buyer. Maybe Canon is assuming they will be buying the much smaller SL1?

[DavidEccleston]

The all cross-type AF points is nice to have at the entry level, but it seriously makes me scratch my head about the 6D's lack of them.

[ahab1372]

The all cross-type AF points is nice to have at the entry level, but it seriously makes me scratch my head about the 6D's lack of them.
Wasn't that already the case for the T4i?
At least the 6D has two more AF points ;-) and they might still perform better in low light (just guessing here)

[M_Six]

Canon seems to spit out new Rebels like a chicken lays eggs. Each has one or two new features, but no huge leap in technology. It keeps Canon on the minds of buyers. But taken as whole the jump in technology from the T1i I bought just a few years ago to the T5i is quite impressive. At the time I bought the T1i, the higher-end models were the 5D MkII and the 7D. The 5D MkIII was certainly a quantum leap over the MkII (if you feel it actually was the replacement for the MkII). The 6D is supposedly a new line. So maybe the 7D MkII will also benefit from a big leap in technology (as well as cost, I'm sure).

[HDNitehawk]

I am not sure I would call the 5D III over the 5D II a quantum leap. I am sure the AF system is worthwhile.
The 5D to 5D II was a big step. The release of the 7D was a big step.
Then the releases started getting marginal.
The 60D was a bomb.
The 1D X while it has some bright spots, it took many in a direction they hadn't anticipated. I would say the 1D X was a lack luster release IMO. It wasn't the replacement to the 1Ds III many were hoping for.
Canon needs a release to hush the Nikonian fan boys for a bit.

[Dr Croubie]

Canon needs a release to hush the Nikonian fan boys for a bit.

I'd say that they need a good release more to hush the pissed-off canon fanboys (at least people here are more polite than at CR, I'm just not bothering to read the posts there today)

[HDNitehawk]

I'd say that they need a good release more to hush the pissed-off canon fanboys (at least people here are more polite than at CR, I'm just not bothering to read the posts there today)

Many of the CR contributors are Nikonians in Canon Fan Boy disguise. It usually takes them about 50 posts before they are revealed.

[shutterdown]

I am not sure I would call the 5D III over the 5D II a quantum leap. I am sure the AF system is worthwhile.
The 5D to 5D II was a big step. The release of the 7D was a big step.
Then the releases started getting marginal.
The 60D was a bomb.
The 1D X while it has some bright spots, it took many in a direction they hadn't anticipated. I would say the 1D X was a lack luster release IMO. It wasn't the replacement to the 1Ds III many were hoping for.
Canon needs a release to hush the Nikonian fan boys for a bit.

Agreed! If they're going to release one, the 7DII has my vote.

[Dr Croubie]

The grass isn't as green over there as some might have you believe....

...but the screens are?

[Busted Knuckles]

...but the screens are?

LOL! +1,

I certainly don't understand retail marketing to the masses - I was early and often a critic that the 1dx was not the move I was hoping for. I bought the 5dIII as it was the current full frame that really made any sense to me - the 1dx would be to the run & gun constantly changing exposure/photo journalist not sure the sports venues don't have that great of a change in exposure frame to frame. No doubt the 1dx is a heck of a camera, at my level/budget/interest couldn't justify the step.

I think the T5i is a significant step up from the T3i. The SL-1 is an interesting product - I never used the tilt screen all that much and the smaller form factor, touchscreen, begs an interesting question of is "small enough" to compete w/ a mirrorless? stick a pancake on it for street shooting and hmmmmmm.

My two pennies

[Kayaker72]

Count me as holding out for some hands on experience/reviews before deciding if this is a major upgrade. New sensor could be good. Or it could be a rehash. But this product could be maturing. For example, it's not like new calculator releases are big improvements. Not that I don't see room for improvement.

[Jarhead5811]

Being a shooting/gun enthusiast that dabbles in photography I'm thinking I'll get a T5i. It takes the same Battery and accepts the same battery grip as my T3i but is still a significant upgrade from the T3i. I'll probably get the battery grip and another battery as well.

I'll probably focus on photography more seriously, one day, but until then a Rebel body is plenty good for me.

[Busted Knuckles]

I'd say that they need a good release more to hush the pissed-off canon fanboys (at least people here are more polite than at CR, I'm just not bothering to read the posts there today)

+2

[MontyMoonBeam]

Newbie here but not a Nikonian

I have a 5dMkiii, 16-35 IIf 2.8, 24-70 IIf 2,8 and 70-200 IIf2.8 - a dream combination. I have sold my 7D because my 5D mkIII and 24-70 ii f2.8 is so sharp I can crop past the 7d and still have better photos BUT this three lens + camera combo is a lot of weight for travel photography.

Not over the moon with a 60d and 18-200 but have looked seriously at a Nikon 7100 and 18-300 combo for travel. On latest Scott Kelby BH video for travel he has dumped his great lenses and substituted a single 18-300. The video assumes this is the lens he has used for the photos he expertly manipulates with photoshop. Juza users rate this lens 9.7/10. I am on the fence. I have a travel photo bag and only what fits in goes. The 5dMkIII 24-70II is so good I am wondering if this alone with cropping will outperform a 7100/18-300.

regards, Neil

[Mark Elberson]

[QUOTE= The 5dMkIII 24-70II is so good I am wondering if this alone with cropping will outperform a 7100/18-300.
regards, Neil[/QUOTE]
I very much doubt it. I also have a 5DIII and use a T4i with 18-200mm for travel. So far I am happy with its performance. For me it's choosing the right tool for the right job.

[MontyMoonBeam]

Thanks mark, that's really useful info

Neil