In Camera Sharpening

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Originally Posted by Daniel Browning

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Originally Posted by clemmb

So, does this mean you set your picture style to Neutral? Standard? Custom?

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I wish I could, but my raw converters (Adobe, mostly) ignore the Canon metadata. If I used DPP, I would use a variety of picture profile settings:

• For typical low ISO shots: Neutral, 0 sharpening, -2 contrast, -2 saturation (no NR)
  
• Typical high ISO shots: Neutral, -4 sharpening, -2 contrast, -2 saturation (no NR)
• Sometimes: Neutral, 0 sharpening, 0 contrast, 0 saturation

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Daniel,


I have the 5D. I do not see any negative sharpeing setting. I see 0 to 7. The Standard style has sharpening at 3. This is what I usually use.


Mark

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Originally Posted by Daniel Browning

I wish I could, but my raw converters (Adobe, mostly) ignore the Canon metadata. If I used DPP, I would use a variety of picture profile settings:

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Daniel, I use Lightroom2 ---Does your statement mean that Lighroom ignores the Canon Metadata, specifically picture style settings and NR settings. If this is the case, it serves no purpose to use picture style settings ---is this correct?

I agree with using 3 and going from there, unless in high iso settings. You can just have lightroom do all the same things that your camera does by using presets Ibelieve

Hi Bob,


I shoot raw like you but sometimes when I want quick&amp;easy conversions I use Raw Image Task, part of ZoomBrowser. It mimics in-camera jpeg quite well and I get sharp natural looking images. I don&acute;t use it often but but when I do I am very pleased with the conversion.





- Johnny

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Originally Posted by HiFiGuy1

Why the differences?

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It's just a matter of personal taste. I prefer shots with less sharpening over NR with sharpening.

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Originally Posted by HiFiGuy1

Don't you have a 5D Mark II?

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Yes.

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Originally Posted by HiFiGuy1

how does one go about quickly changing from one set of selections to the next, on the fly?

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There is a picture style button on the back of the camera. Press that once, then use the scroll wheel to quickly pick a different style and press OK.

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Originally Posted by HiFiGuy1

With a 40D like mine, what are your suggestions?

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It's really a matter of personal taste. I prefer shots with low contrast and low sharpening (I mostly sharpen at output). The Canon Picture Style editor is a really neat way to build your own custom style.

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Originally Posted by bob williams

Daniel, I use Lightroom2 ---Does your statement mean that Lighroom ignores the Canon Metadata, specifically picture style settings and NR settings.

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Yes, Lightroom ignores it.

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Originally Posted by bob williams

If this is the case, it serves no purpose to use picture style settings ---is this correct?

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Correct. There's no purpose unless you use something like DPP.

Thanks Daniel, This is certainly info that was left out of both the Lightroom and Canon user manuals[^o)]

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Originally Posted by Daniel Browning

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Originally Posted by HiFiGuy1

Why the differences?

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It's just a matter of personal taste. I prefer shots with less sharpening over NR with sharpening.

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Originally Posted by HiFiGuy1

Don't you have a 5D Mark II?

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Yes.

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Originally Posted by HiFiGuy1

how does one go about quickly changing from one set of selections to the next, on the fly?

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There is a picture style button on the back of the camera. Press that once, then use the scroll wheel to quickly pick a different style and press OK.

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Originally Posted by HiFiGuy1

With a 40D like mine, what are your suggestions?

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It's really a matter of personal taste. I prefer shots with low contrast and low sharpening (I mostly sharpen at output). The Canon Picture Style editor is a really neat way to build your own custom style.

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Thanks for the info on changing settings quickly. I'll look into that further on my camera. I understand that you like low contrast and low sharpening in your RAW files, but I want to know why. I also use 0 sharpening in my shots, but I don't decrease other settings to get "low" contrast, for example. Why would you do that? Is there a technical reason, something that gives latitude for improvement in post processing that would not be available otherwise? I appreciate the artistic perspective, but I know you well enough to know that there is an underlying technical basis for this decision.


Also, the Picture Style editor is in DPP, correct? Or is it in camera?

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Originally Posted by HiFiGuy1

Is there a technical reason, something that gives latitude for improvement in post processing that would not be available otherwise? I appreciate the artistic perspective, but I know you well enough to know that there is an underlying technical basis for this decision.

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[:D] It's really just artistic. If you're shooting JPEG (or video), then there is a good technical reason: you can always add contrast in post, but you can't take it away. But for raw there's really no technical reason, since it can all be changed later.

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Originally Posted by HiFiGuy1

Also, the Picture Style editor is in DPP, correct?

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Actually, it's a separate program that you can download for free from Canon. Once you create your style (or download one that someone else created) you can transfer it to the Camera with the flash card or USB cable.


Canon just came out with a new version two weeks ago. Here is one location where you can download it:


http://software.canon-europe.com/software/0037091.asp

Thanks DB,


I shoot RAW or RAW+JPEG, so I should just ignore all this I guess! Oh well. [:D]


I am going to check into the software. That sounds really neat, even if it is apparently for the in-camera JPEGs.