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Originally Posted by Jon Ruyle
There are some good guides for focus stacking on the web (GIYF). One pitfall to avoid is turning the focus ring on the lens: that is hard to move in the right increments and will also introduce breathing and other problems (apocryphal focus). It's better to use a focusing rail, bellows, or move the subject itself.
Interesting.
The guy I spoke to said he wanted me to change focus, not move the camera.
Could you explain what you mean by "breathing" and "apocryphal focus"?
That should be fine.Quote:
Originally Posted by Jon Ruyle
Breathing is when turning the focus ring causes the focal length of the lens to change. In this way, prime lenses (even macro) "zoom" as they focus. It's possible to create a lens that compensates for the focal length change so that changing focus does not change focal length, but this is not usually done except in expensive cinema lenses. As you can imagine, changing focal length slightly as you focus will cause a slight difference in magnification between layers in the stack. CombineZ can compensate for that without introducing artifacts as long as the changes are slight enough.Quote:
Originally Posted by Jon Ruyle
Apocryphal focus is a term that I learned from Joseph S. Wisniewski, a talented macrophotographer. He informed me that it causes exaggerated perspective (i.e. the same effect you would get from moving in closer and using a wider focal length) and that many find the resulting perspective to be unnatural. I don't know why using the focus ring causes it, except that perhaps it's the same thing as breathing. (Obviously, I'm not an expert in macro.)
If you use a bellows that can separate the movements between just the rear standard by itself (camera without lens) and everything (rear + front standard together), then it's possible to take layers that don't each have a different perspective.
The first possibility is by moving just the rear standard. The perspective will correspond to whatever the focal length of the lens is, but at least it wont change like it does when using the focus ring.
The second possibility is to move everything together (rear and front standard both). This results in "orthographic" perspective, which is as if the object were at infinity (i.e. flat or no perspective at all). Many macrophotographers desire orthographic perspective the most.
Hope that helps. :)
By the way, I can't stress enough how important it is to try a dedicated stacking program. Compared to shooting the layers in the first place, learning a new software program is a piece of cake.
When using the MP-E and stacking, just move closer to the object. The perspective doesn't change all that much, and the actual movement is so little, that it makes little difference. Here's a quick example using my handy dead wasp:
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3223/...9a6dcdb41c.jpg
Which then ends up like this:
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3210/...eaf21a5720.jpg
The deail on that pic is pretty impressive... (unless, of course, that dead wasp is unusually large [:)])
I'll have to try this as soon as I have a chance.
Daniel: Thanks for the explanations. WRT breathing, you don't mean that the focal length really changes, do you? I'm guessing you're talking about how the framing changes rapidly because magnification increases asymptotically as you approach focal distance, which sort of looks like zooming. Or *do* you mean that the focal length changes? (It wouldn't for an ideal lens, but I don't understand what goes on with complicated real life things)
Thanks both of you for turning me on to this.
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Originally Posted by Jon Ruyle
Yes, I do. The numbers printed on lenses are really more like guidelines (usually corresponding to infinity focus) than actual reality. When you change the focus ring, it literally changes the focal length. The lens elements physically move. A 100mm focused on infinity could be 110mm focused at 1 meter.
Wild. Actually, I've noticed that the 100mm macro doesn't obey the lens equation with f=100 wrt extension tubes. So maybe I shouldn't be surprised.