Computer performance should not cost more than our Cameras!

Daniel & Bob


My apple has an option to set sleep mode to never under System Preferences


Once I set time machine to a second drive, I do not see the backup pop up any more.


As far as running software on Mac, there were more that ran on Mac than I expected. I have MS Office, word and excel on mine now.


Bob knowing what you do since its everybody else's hobby here is that to, I imagine you are wanting to put Adobe on the machine. I probably wouldn't go apple if I had to buy a whole new copy of CS5 to put on it. I wouldn't buy an apple and run windows VM on my mac just so I could still use CS5 for windows either, that would seem like odd logic. That would be my biggest concern.

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My apple has an option to set sleep mode to never under System Preferences

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Well, I still want it to sleep, but only when I tell it to, not every time I close the screen. It's great for having it do stuff while the screen is closed (shutting off the screen and protecting the computer).

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Once I set time machine to a second drive, I do not see the backup pop up any more.

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Time Machine is far too limited for my backup needs, so I don't use it and the popups annoyed me until I disabled them on the commandline. That doesn't take away from the great things I said about Time Machine in the last post, though.

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Bob knowing what you do since its everybody else's hobby here is that to, I imagine you are wanting to put Adobe on the machine. I probably wouldn't go apple if I had to buy a whole new copy of CS5 to put on it. I wouldn't buy an apple and run windows VM on my mac just so I could still use CS5 for windows either, that would seem like odd logic. That would be my biggest concern.

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I guess I should ask Adobe, but, does anyone know if you are a registered owner of an Adobe product and purchased it for windows, would they allow you to re-download for Mac or purchase a a Mac compatable disk for $10 or $15 ?


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some sites say what you do, other's say they use TFT LCDs..

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TN is one type of TFT display. The highest quality, IPS, is another type of TFT display.

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each has their advantages and disadvantages, but at the end of the day they're both great tools.

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Agreed.

@Daniel Browning:


Bah, that's what I meant, IPS LCDs... getting my terms mixed up now, lol. I did find a good source that said Apple's laptops are in fact TN LCDs. I'm actually disappointed to learn this, but it seems many manufactures use this type of screen in their laptops due to power consumption, so it makes sense why Apple would as well.


Sorry, I should have done more research before questioning yours, especially on a topic, as I've pointed out, that I didn't really know much about. I might have to do some research and ensure the monitors on my Mac Pro are actually 24-bit, and if not, consider upgrading since this is where I do all my photo editing.

I have been working on my computer all night deleting programs & pictures, running CCleaner & removing check marks from start up programs. When all was said and done, it showed I only gained 10 GB back! One program showed it was almost 3 GB so I don't see how this is possible. I started to defragment and got up took a shower came back and it's still defragmenting but my computer shows that I now only have 1 GB available on my c drive!! What the heck happened while I was gone!? [:'(][:'(][:'(]

Denise

When the program is defragmenting the drive, it writes files from other parts of the drive to the free space on the drive, and then writes them back in a more organized fashion. Your computer probably reports that it only has 1GB available since the defragmentation program is still running. Don

A few thoughts on Mac vs. PC [:)]


The story of my life is similar to the one of Thomas' (I almost shed a tear when I read it [:)]) I bought whole only my first PC years ago and I have been building them since. I have been tempted by Macs, but my next computer will likely be a PC.


There is Apple, there is PC and there is a custom made PC. I think of the latter as of a different breed. They are stable, do not overheat and run for years. They are more modular and upgradeable. Their displays are better. Often they are what pre-built PCs are not.


Sometimes I wonder, what if my first computer was a Mac? Or, what if my first DSLR was a Nikon? I guess, we just have to utilize strong points of our equipment and work around the weak ones...


Something to remember, Mac OS can be installed on many Intel based PC systems so one can have the best of both worlds.

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I have been working on my computer all night deleting programs & pictures, running CCleaner & removing check marks from start up programs. When all was said and done, it showed I only gained 10 GB back! One program showed it was almost 3 GB so I don't see how this is possible. I started to defragment and got up took a shower came back and it's still defragmenting but my computer shows that I now only have 1 GB available on my c drive!! What the heck happened while I was gone!? [img]/emoticons/emotion-9.gif[/img][img]/emoticons/emotion-9.gif[/img][img]/emoticons/emotion-9.gif[/img]

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With so many PC guru's about, I am supprised on one has pointed this out yet. If you only have 1 GB available on your hard drive you are probablyoverloaded. You need to have a certain amount of memory on your hard drivefor your computer to run properly or you will be going slow and getting errors. It sounds like one of the things you need to do is save some of those pictures on an exterior hard drive and delete them off your PC.

Everything works in tandem. You cannot have one without the other, if your HDD is full one will experience slow response times, if one does not have enough RAM, one will experience slow load up times in particular applications. If your processor is not up-to-date, one will experience slow response times between applications. If your processor is cnstantly thrashing at the slightest mouse movement, a system upgrade may be required as well as a cleaning.


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As for Denise's issue, as much as I hate to say it, you may need purchase additional RAM, then backup all your data, format your system drive and install Windows 7 x64 - PM me.

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All those will help her, but from the last post above she said she had deleted programs and now had 10GB of drive. It is very possible that her computer Hard Drive is full and this is the problem she is having now. When I first got the 5D Mark II it didn't take long to fill my laptops hard drive. Mine seemed to start having problems when I got below 20GB available.


Wouldn't you think this might be the immediate issue?

Running multiple programs means loading the program into RAM. However, if the RAM available proves insufficient, Windows initiates Virtual Memory to simulate RAM - in effect, pretending that it has more memory than it actually has.


The downside to a Windows-managed swap or page file is that it becomes fragmented over time, and performance is degraded due to frequent resizing as the computer continues to handle memory-intensive applications.


This could be one of the issues...also, please keep in mind that the registry itself could be *fragmented*. Uninstalling applications does not garantee that the application itself is 100% removed. There are remants left in the registry.


It would be nice to have a system snapshot to see/confirm what we are up against.


LOL - this is what is great about a MAC, typically one does not suffer from these issues - LOL

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LOL - this is what is great about a MAC, typically one does not suffer from these issues - LOL

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I wouldn't say this to loud, you might get thearguments...errrrr ..I mean discussionsstarted again. The MAC vs PC debate seems to have stoped after two days.

LOL, you are right,


MAC or PC why can

I used to be a hardcore PC person but switched over to Mac and never looked back. That said, the only good bang for your buck hardware Apple makes IMO are their Macbook Pros. Everything else is subpar or overly expensive for what you get *cough mac pros*. I tend upgrade my MBPs every 2-4 years depending on my needs and the tech available.

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LOL - this is what is great about a MAC, typically one does not suffer from these issues - LOL

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I wouldn't say this to loud, you might get thearguments...errrrr ..I mean discussionsstarted again. The MAC vs PC debate seems to have stoped after two days.
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Sigh... I've had some busy days and when I come back I cannot even take part of this great debate [:(] Plus: What's two days for a debate? Good politicians know to stretch debates for months/years [;)]


Anyway, I have build my own PC and it paid of big time. I never had any problems with W7 other than some old games that didn't work anymore...regression [:S] Funny thing is that a videographer friend of mine has a MacBook for his mobility purposes, but for his video-editing 1080p live-editing he still uses a self-build pc. So yes they can go hand in hand. And Nikon lenses can also be used on Canon camera's with the right parts [;)]


I was interested when I saw the advice for Denise to put more RAM in her PC. I think this advice is kinda funny though. Yes, more RAM will generally be better. But is that also the case for her?


I haven't seen any specifications: motherboard, processor, memory now, harddrives.... Perhaps she doesn't even have room on her motherboard to upgrade her RAM...[A] And I can think of some other things as well...


There are some other things though. The debate of Apple vs. PC has one thing that made me smile. Some of you mentioned that they never had any problems with the Apple's, but did experience hardware problems like broken hard-drives etc on a PC. I think it was John who said heconsumed 6 PC-laptops in 4,5 years??


Is this really a pc problem though or user-error. Say lack of knoledge of PC or wrong software? These days I see the same hardware that you can buy for a pc in a Mac. I see they're also using I3, I5 and I7 processors...are those differently than those for a PC? Does Apple build their own harddrives and other hardware? ... I doubt it.


Therefor I come to this conclusion and another question:


If you get the same hardware, but in a different outfit, why wouldn't you go the cheapest way? Plus: I don't know iif it's possible, but if you could install Mac OS on a home build PC...wouldn't that be the best compromise? Of course while doing this you must admit to the fact that you'll loose the flashy and expensive Apple Logo on your Pc... But you can draw it yourself. I tried and it's really not that hard [;)]

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This could be one of the issues...also, please keep in mind that the registry itself could be *fragmented*. Uninstalling applications does not garantee that the application itself is 100% removed. There are remants left in the registry.

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Out of curiosity. When you delete a program on your Mac...it is entirely deleted? All the temporary files? The original paths and the system? Indeed this doesn't work that well with some programs in windows.

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LOL - this is what is great about a MAC, typically one does not suffer from these issues - LOL

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We have 4 pc's and a laptop at home. And we never have any problems other than little sister and brother downloading corrupted movies from time to time (user-error). Some of us don't even use anti-virus programs [8-|] W7 does a great job I must say [:#]

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If you get the same hardware, but in a different outfit, why wouldn't you go the cheapest way? Plus: I don't know iif it's possible, but if you could install Mac OS on a home build PC...wouldn't that be the best compromise?

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If you were debating the windows OS agains the Mac OS you would get an argument for each system


One of the biggest ways Apple has managed their reputation is by building the computer themselves. They control the quality of the machine, unlike a PC where any one that wants to be a box builder can buy the cheapest junk (ahem ...AMD) possible and put in it. A PC with the same components in an Apple would be a fairly decent machine.

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? These days I see the same hardware that you can buy for a pc in a Mac.

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Yes, but the idea is that Apple will have vetted and tested them better than the rest.

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No, it's all pretty much off the shelf, every once and a while the manufacturer will make an apple-only model exclusively for them, but even then it wont have any features that you can't get somewhere else (with a few very rare time-limited exceptions). Even the assembly of the components is not performed by Apple themselves, but subcontractors, just like everyone else. But I think Applies tries harder to hold their feet to the fire on QA.

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If you get the same hardware, but in a different outfit, why wouldn't you go the cheapest way?

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Possible reasons include better software, QA, service, etc. Plus, there's no other way to get that smug elitism. [;)] Of course, Linux users such as myself are even more arrogant. [:D]

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Plus: I don't know iif it's possible, but if you could install Mac OS on a home build PC...wouldn't that be the best compromise?

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Yes, it's possible: look up Hackintosh. Unfortunately, it's not legal -- even if you buy OS X outright, it infringes Apple's copyright to load it on non-Apple hardware.

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Out of curiosity. When you delete a program on your Mac...it is entirely deleted? All the temporary files? The original paths and the system?

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It depends on the program. If the application developer follows Apple-recommended development practices, then all you have to do is drag the one program icon into the trash bin and everything goes away automatically. Installation and removal is far superior to Windows in that way, IMHO. Of course, lots of programs don't follow recommended practice.

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One of the biggest ways Apple has managed their reputation is by building the computer themselves.

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The last time a Mac was built by Apple themselves was when they still called it "Lisa". OK, maybe not that far back, but they moved final assembly to subcontractors in China sometime in the previous century. (And long before that, most of the components were made by other manufacturers in China too.)


Of course, they can still control the quality of the machine, even if it happens to be made by someone else.



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They control the quality of the machine, unlike a PC where any one that wants to be a box builder can buy the cheapest junk (ahem ...AMD) possible and put in it.

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Not so. Right now, my $2700 Macbook Pro is part of a class action lawsuit to be reimbursed for burned out graphics cards. Apple tried to save money by buying NVIDIA's reject video cards -- ones that weren't good enough for anyone else, but could be sold cheaper to Apple. They promised Apple that they would last at least three years before they burned out, but the reliability turned out to be so poor that they got another lawsuit. (This is different from the other lawsuit I mentioned about having 6-bit panels and claiming "millions of colors".)


Everyone puts the same stuff in their computers - but I think Apple does work harder to test them and make sure they will work (with exceptions like the above).

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Nonsense. AMD is just as reliable as Intel, and for the last decade has provided superior cost/performance ratio. Intel is faster, but disproportionately more expensive.

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It depends on the individual case. If I had built my own computer instead of buying Apple, then I wouldn't have even had the option to buy NVIDIA's reject chips at half price, and I would have been forced to build something with much higher quality than Apple, that would have lasted more than 2 years before it burned out and died, and I wouldn't get the joy of being in this class action lawsuit (or the other one with the 6-bit displays).

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The last time a Mac was built by Apple themselves was when they still called it "Lisa". OK, maybe not that far back, but they moved final assembly to subcontractors in China sometime in the previous century. (And long before that, most of the components were made by other manufacturers in China too.)


Of course, they can still control the quality of the machine, even if it happens to be made by someone else.

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They control the quality of the machine, unlike a PC where any one that wants to be a box builder can buy the cheapest junk (ahem ...AMD) possible and put in it.

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Not so. Right now, my $2700 Macbook Pro is part of a class action lawsuit to be reimbursed for burned out graphics cards. Apple tried to save money by buying NVIDIA's reject video cards -- ones that weren't good enough for anyone else, but could be sold cheaper to Apple. They promised Apple that they would last at least three years before they burned out, but the reliability turned out to be so poor that they got another lawsuit. (This is different from the other lawsuit I mentioned about having 6-bit panels and claiming "millions of colors".)


Everyone puts the same stuff in their computers - but I think Apple does work harder to test them and make sure they will work (with exceptions like the above).

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Nonsense. AMD is just as reliable as Intel, and for the last decade has provided superior cost/performance ratio. Intel is faster, but disproportionately more expensive.

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It depends on the individual case. If I had built my own computer instead of buying Apple, then I wouldn't have even had the option to buy NVIDIA's reject chips at half price, and I would have been forced to build something with much higher quality than Apple, that would have lasted more than 2 years before it burned out and died, and I wouldn't get the joy of being in this class action lawsuit (or the other one with the 6-bit displays).

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I think its tit for tat, whether Apple builds it themselves or not. There are alot of large manufactures of other products that do the exact same thing. Point is they do it to control quality.


Iteresting point about the $2700 mac note book. My son bought one a year ago when his HP notebook monitor went out after he had it just 13 months. 1 month after the warranty was up, he gets on line and finds hunderds of other people with the exact same problem. But if your comparing the quality of the components in a mac in general to the store bought "Best Buy Boxes" the are decent machines. And the problem you are talking about is a NIVADIA problem, from my experince with PC gaming I wouldn't hesitate a minute to use a NIVADIA product.


I had a few AMD processors on gaming PC's long ago. The never seemed to perform as well as the Intel's. Write this off to personal prefrence and a good debate somewhere else.


Now...For PC's there is no argument with me. Buy from a Box Builder or Custom Spec one, GO CUSTOM.I did my first Custom Spec computer in 1994, it was awesome. Custom is the way to go no doubt. But there is a problem with the whole debate and the way the debate started about this. Steve U had a problem with his computer that he bought, and the computer Geek salesman sold him what the Computer Geek Salesman thought he needed. Many people really do not know what they would need to spec for a custom. There lies the problem, wheter it be the computer geek salesman at Best Buy, or a Geek at the custom box store how doesanoviceknow what he needs. In that context, what should someone do with little or no expreince, would going with Apple be best or trusting the Computer Geek to set you up with what he thinks you need. With that person having no experince I would recomend Apple. Gamers and computer profesionals know what they want, and when we go to talk to the Computer Geek Salesman were telling them what we are going to buy not asking them what we need (and there in lies the real diffrence). I bought both with my Mac Pro, it does great with CS5, go to boot camp to windows and I have a gaming machine that screams at the games I play.

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Well, I think that flies in the face of the idea that Apple makes extra effort to "control quality". I've bought many PCs, but the first Apple I buy happens to be hit with two class action lawsuits involving the purchase of substandard parts (6-bit TN and reject NVIDIA chips). HP, Dell, and Apple all had the option to buy the full-price normal-quality production units from NVIDIA, but they chose to go with the cheaper reject chips just like Apple. The difference is that at least with HP, Dell, Toshiba, etc., you have the choice to pick from a variety of different video chips, and probably one of them is a more expensive "normal" production quality unit instead of a reject. Apple doesn't let you chose the video card on MBP, so you're stuck.Plus, they're almost half the price in the first place, so at least they are passing some of the savings on to you.

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Well, I think that flies in the face of the idea that Apple makes extra effort to "control quality". I've bought many PCs, but the first Apple I buy happens to be hit with two class action lawsuits involving the purchase of substandard parts (6-bit TN and reject NVIDIA chips). HP, Dell, and Apple all had the option to buy the full-price normal-quality production units from NVIDIA, but they chose to go with the cheaper reject chips just like Apple. The difference is that at least with HP, Dell, Toshiba, etc., you have the choice to pick from a variety of different video chips, and probably one of them is a more expensive "normal" production quality unit instead of a reject. Apple doesn't let you chose the video card on MBP, so you're stuck.Plus, they're almost half the price in the first place, so at least they are passing some of the savings on to you.

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Ok, they put a bad chip set:


http://support.apple.com/kb/TS2377


Apples response:


In July 2008, NVIDIA publicly acknowledged a higher than normal failure rate for some of their graphics processors due to a packaging defect. At that same time, NVIDIA assured Apple that Mac computers with these graphics processors were not affected. However, after an Apple-led investigation, Apple has determined that some MacBook Pro computers with the NVIDIA GeForce 8600M GT graphics processor may be affected. If the NVIDIA graphics processor in your MacBook Pro has failed, or fails within four years of the original date of purchase, a repair will be done free of charge, even if your MacBook Pro is out of warranty.


Daniel...sounds like to me you have a 4 year warranty on yoru machine. Looks to me like Apple is standing up to the issue and correcting it.


How is this a negative if they make it right?

Of course Apple themselves are going to try and put it in the most positive light on their own web site, but if you read into the details surrounding the issue it comes out that only reject chipshave the issue. All the NVIDIA chips that passed the normal QA are still working fine. And unless I just happened to be affected by two rare exceptions, I think both lawsuits are evidence that Apple is no more selective in its hardware components than PC manufacturers. (Not to mention the $100 power supply that died in my MBP.) In other words, it shows that Apple customers are not paying twice as much to get better hardware, but other things, like better software, service, support, etc.

Im not sure I would agree that Apple is no more selective than other manufactures, because failures are a big cost to buisnes. But that is not what I see as important with the monitor issue. It appears to me they made up this short coming with Support and Service by extending the warranty. To me its a big factor how much a company stands behind their product, as well as how well it is built.


I mentioned earlier about my sons HP that died. I called him and apparently its the same NVIDIA problem as with apple. Difference here is that his HP right now is a $1000 paper weight and Apple has given a warranty to stand behind theirs. I told him he should check with HP again and see if maybe they have been forced to repair/replace the defective units.

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That's for sure. Plus we happen to live just a few minutes from a really fantastic authorized mac shop, so getting warranty service is fast and convenient.

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With so many PC guru's about, I am supprised on one has pointed this out yet. If you only have 1 GB available on your hard drive you are probablyoverloaded. You need to have a certain amount of memory on your hard drivefor your computer to run properly or you will be going slow and getting errors. It sounds like one of the things you need to do is save some of those pictures on an exterior hard drive and delete them off your PC.

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Sorry to keep interrupting this MAC vs. PC debate but....

Not too very long ago I had bought my first external hard drive (a Maxtor something or other) and stored a ton of photos on there and deleted them from my hard drive. Within a very short time, the external hard drive stopped working and I could not retrieve any of my photos. After many tears shed, I went and bought two more (HP and Seagate) and they have been working flawlessly but I still do not have my faith restored. Well, tonight I bit the bullet and deleted MANY photos from my computer and I am not the proud owner of over 100 GB of free space! I still have more to go thru but it's quite a start. But if my external hard drive die again ...better lock me up in a padded room!

Only problem is, the new DxO 6.5 I bought and installed the other day is still giving me grief! I keep getting "NOT RESPONDING" every time I scroll thru the photos! I did not have this problem with the 6.2 trial version! I am currently uninstalling and reinstalling as I type this so cross your fingers and wish me luck!!

Ok, now back to the PC vs. MAC debate ...[:P]

Denise

UPDATE: Still the same problem after the reinstall ....ERRRRRR!!![:@]

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Looks like were getting close to being "Debated Out". Like all Political debates nothing resolved of course.


Looks like you have already learned. 2 external hard drives....





On another note...I was never really happy with results from DXO, I did the trial and then deleted it. I had heard it was good for correcting lens distortion, which a person might want to correct with lens 20mm and wider. But it never seemed to do it quit right.





Why do you want to use DXO and not photoshop or DPP?

If you need to store things on an external disk, one of the best solutions is a two disk (or more) enclosure that can be configured in RAID 1 so the drives mirror each other. This way if one drive dies, the other drive will still have all your data. This is a great way to be able to get photos off your computer without having to worry about losing them. You

DPP is ok but I really liked some of the results I obtained from the trial version of 6.2 and it was easy to use. I have done only a few things in 6.5 and to be honest, I liked the results from 6.2 better. Photoshop is awesome with what you can do with it but only if you know how. It

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DPP is ok but I really liked some of the results I obtained from the trial version of 6.2 and it was easy to use. I have done only a few things in 6.5 and to be honest, I liked the results from 6.2 better. Photoshop is awesome with what you can do with it but only if you know how. It's alittle ...ummm, ALOT to advanced for me! Also, the difference between DXO and PS other than ease of use is about $600 or $700! I do have Elements and it's on my winter to do list as far as learning how to use it.


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I have CS5 Master Collection, and I agree just photoshop itself is overwhelming. My son is taking classes in college to learn to use all the programs. Me, I have been watching the new videos for DPP to get a little better. Being overwhelmed with CS5 and DPP is one reason I didn't go ahead and get DXO. I have enough to learn on the others without adding to it.


Another thing I found though, is the more I learn I find myself going back to when I first started taking pictures and modifying theme differently. Seems the more I learn the more work it makes.

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Not too very long ago I had bought my first external hard drive (a Maxtor something or other) and stored a ton of photos on there and deleted them from my hard drive. Within a very short time, the external hard drive stopped working and I could not retrieve any of my photos. After many tears shed, I went and bought two more (HP and Seagate) and they have been working flawlessly but I still do not have my faith restored....Well, tonight I bit the bullet and deleted MANY photos from my computer and I am not the proud owner of over 100 GB of free space!

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Two external HDD's are great, but are you storing the same data on both drives? The idea is to have every file stored on at least two drives - that can be one internal drive and one external drive, or two external drives. Ideally, you'd have the external two drives stored in two different locations (home and work, etc.).


Another option is an online backup service - I've heard good things about Mozy, and $55/year for unlimited storage seems pretty reasonable.

Hi Denise, finally sorted my computer dilemma to a stage that I am happy with. Maybe a lot of people on this site wouldn

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Hi Denise, finally sorted my computer dilemma to a stage that I am happy with. Maybe a lot of people on this site wouldn't work with it but it is done. Took me 5 times longer than somebody that knows what they are doing, but oh well.


CS5 worked fine on my old computer, but when I booted up the Nik HDR, it said file not responding, don't open multiple files. I was only opening one file, so I didn't think I was pushing it too hard. With Windows7 64 bit, it all works fine. The 64 part is the important part. I don't know if the new DXO software would work with 64 or 32bit, but programmers and programs are all moving towards 64bit now and I think you would be surprised at how good Win7 64 is.

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Hi Steve -

You should be pretty proud of yourself that you were able to complete the task no matter how long it took! Congrats!!! My next task at hand is that I just ordered 2GB of RAM from TigerDirect to put in my computer. I am hoping that I will be able to (with the help of my daughter) do this myself. Sounds pretty painless, take the back off the computer and stick them in the slots, how hard can that be!? [^o)] That way I won't have to take it to my coworker ...yet. Hopefully, this will solve all of my "NOT RESPONDING" problems!

So am I correct in saying programs either work with 32bit or 64bit but not both?? I am afraid to make the switch from Vista (even though I despise Vista) to Windows 7 because I heard sometimes not all programs transfer and there can be problems. But then again, I went from Windows ME to Vista ...so I know nothing but problems! [:P]

Denise

Look I know just about enough to stay out of trouble, I don

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...I prefer custom made home cooked burgers. You can put what you want in them and if you raise the stuff yourself you can save a buck.

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That sounds delicious, I'm with you 100%.[Y] I drive around all day for my work and drive thru's are too convenient during the week.


How many bytes to one burger?[:)]


Cheers,


Steve

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Originally Posted by Steve U

I don't know how Vista handles extra RAM, but the thing with Windows7 is 32 bit will only ever read 3 GB of RAM, even if you put 12 GB in it, it only reads 3 and effectively operates at just above 2.

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So, my solution to my problems may not be a solution at all!? [:(]

I am one step from going to Best Buy today and getting Windows 7. this may be a really dumb question but if I do this, my computer will still take the same type of RAM product I purchased from TigerDirect yesterday, correct? I know there were many types my coworker was looking at yesterday to decide what type my computer would take &amp; I don't know if he was basing his decision on my computer or Vista.

If anyone cares to give me any help/suggestions on how I go about switching out from Vista to Windows 7 please let me know (here or PM). I am too impatient to wait for my coworker to do this for me on Monday. Best Buy opens in an hour ...any advice GREATLY appreciated!

Should I just install the RAM and see what it does for me? Should I take the leap to Windows 7 and if so, HOW!?

Denise

Hi Denise...


Add the extra memory modules first and go from there. However keep in mind that if you have a total of 4GB or more and you are running Vista 32 bit, your system will not recognize more than 3GB.


If you should upgrade the OS, it is not that simple. Sure you can pop a disc in and upgrade, but in my opinion, I would backup all things *holy* and perform a complete install, as in formatting the system drive. If an upgrade from the original OS is performed to Win7, then those errors or issues you had previously, tend to follow or migrate to the upgraded OS. Besides if your current rig is 32bit and you want to go to 64bit, then you have no choice but to format.


Oh, you will need to download the 64bit drivers as the 32bit versions will not work if you go 64bit.


Feel free to PM at enatale99@rogers.com


Emilio

Whew!!! After 12 hours of attempting to go from Windows Vista 32-bit to Windows 7 64-bit, I am finally up and running!! [:D] And WOW, what a difference!! Everything is running flawlessly and I haven't even installed the additional 2GB of RAM yet ...that comes viaUPS tomorrow! DxO Pro 6.5 is now actually working for me!!!!!I didn't realize how bad I had it until now seeing everything move so quickly without hesitation! Going from Windows ME to Windows Vista to Windows 7, I am now doing the happy dance!! [&lt;:o)]

Thanks to everyone for their help and suggestions and thank you very much Emilio for the PM!!

Now ...onto reinstalling the rest of my programs! Have a great day everyone!!

Denise

Nice to hear Denise, congrats you have done very well. [Y]


Steve