Thanks Steve,
I was about 10 to12 feet away and I had my flash on a light stand to my right a little closer to the bird, I used pocket wizard triggers.
Joel
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Thanks Steve,
I was about 10 to12 feet away and I had my flash on a light stand to my right a little closer to the bird, I used pocket wizard triggers.
Joel
JJphoto, I did a little quick pp work on your image ... the cloning is crude but the background cleaned up with noise reduction makes it pop nicely.
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I am new to this... so I hope this works. I have really been enjoying all the great shots.
I just connected the lens to my tripod when this eagle flew up. My daughter started loudly telling me there was an eagle coming. Since the camera was conected to the tripod but it was not set up yet, I picked up the camera with the tripod hanging from it and started shooting as the eagle was landing. So I guess you could consider this hand held [;)]... but it turned out better than I thought it would.
Shot with 7D, 100-400mm<span style="background-color: #ff0000;"]<span style="background-color: #ffffff;"] <span style="background-color: #ffffff;"]<span style="color: #ff0000;"]L @ 400mm, f/5.6, 1/400 sec.
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Originally Posted by JJphoto
JJ now that you have a week or two, do you think the 500 is sharp now [:P]
Both were nice catches, did you use flash?
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Great shot of the eagle, conropl and welcome to the forums! It would be quite quite a site to see a photo of you taking the photo, though! [:D]
JJ - Your photos are fantastic!! Love the colors & composition!
Denise
Hey! you guys make my good day even better, thanks for all the kind words, really appreciate it!
Joel, thanks for that PP work, nice job!. I
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Originally Posted by ddt0725
I imagine I looked pretty ridiculous.
Here is a snow owl. I do not see to many of these, and I was lucky to get close to this one.
XTi , EFS 55-250mm @ 250mm, f/5.6, 1/250 sec.
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Conropl, welcome here!
I agree with you, it was a hand holding and I think it's harder than regular hand holding!
it's a nice capture of eagle!
PS. this is a beautiful snow owl!, I 'v been hoping that I can see them some day!
Hey Joel,
I know you don't care for a very saturated image but I thought this one needed some more punch.
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Thats the original.
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And this is the edited version, I tried to keep a light hand on the saturation. But you know me![:)]
I used DXO and applied levels, tone curve, saturation andused HLS to selectively applysaturation to certain colors. The red border was applied when I used screan snipping tool to make a screen capture because my paid version of DXO is still in the mail and I'm to lazy to re-download and instal DXO.[:P]
What do you think?
John.
John,
You certainly made it pretty !! Nothing wrong with what you did, I like the colorful look but it is no where close to what it looks like to my eyes in real life.
I would like to try DXO sometime, I have heard some good things about it.
Joel
Here is another recent image from the yard ..... a little more saturated !! I was lucky to get a sharp image at 1/250.
1DMKIII
300mm 2.8L IS USM + 1.4TC II
ISO 1000
f/7.1
1/250
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Originally Posted by JJphoto
That would make me cry [:'(] I wouldn't give mine up unless I just had to. I know I don't need mine that much but it sure is nice to have a supertele that isn't the size of a rocket launcher to carry around. But if I had to just keep one it would be the 500mm.
I saw those two pic's and noticed you used the 1.4x. It made me remember last year when I bought mine, after about a week I decided it was time to try the 1.4TC and I was pleasantly surprised. I saw the two pics and I thought he is just finding this out to. To me I do not see hardly any degradation, at least not enough to matter on the big prints I like to do.
I see you are using the 7D. After some discussion in the forum, I bought a 7D to use with the 500mm, rather than the 5D MarkII. I am still not sure it is the right choice. The pics out of the 7D have to be worked in Post Process more to make them equal to the croped version out of 5D. Once worked they can be as good and even slightly superior. The AF of the 7D is not as great as of an improvement as one might expect from all the hype, for stationary pics I find the 5D to maybe even be slightly better. But the real negative I found with the 7D is the loss of DOF and I didn't expect this one. To capture a small bird close up you have to narrower aperture to have the same DOF as a 5D Mark II, which means you loose a stop of light, and this often ends up having to use faster shutter speeds. With the 500mm if you think about anything hand held it is all about shutter speed. The shutter rate and the crop factor are positives though for the 7D. So I am still debating about the 7D and 500mm F4L combination is the best way to go.
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Originally Posted by Fast Glass
Here's my version using a more subtle setting in DxO but stil shows some color (needa RAW to do more)...
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I hope you don't mind! I know I'm not very good at it but thought I'd give it a try!
You guys are making me want to gostand outside in 5 degree weatherand wait for a bird to appear ...and it takes ALOT to get me to want to do that!
Denise
good thoughts and information
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Originally Posted by HDNitehawk
I have been having a really good time with my 300mm, everything is great but the reach. I often had to crop a lot, that maks my pictures has more noise and less details. but to get rid of this such a good lens is hard, but have you ever thought about trade it to a 200mm 2.0 since you have the 500mm too?
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Originally Posted by HDNitehawk
yes I just found out that Canon has a nice 700mm 5.6 out there but,
I didn't have a lot of chance to try BIF yesterday(with 1.4TC), if it's also good(AF performance) for BIF, it really worth the money.
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Originally Posted by HDNitehawk
agreed, that's why I always think about a 1D body, but like I said before, I hate spending 4 grands on a body, maybe a 7D II is a solution!
thanks HD for sharing you thoughts, appreciate it!
Denise, I like your version .... just need to get the purple cast out of the background ... well done IMHO.
JJ : I saw a used 1DMKIII at Adorama
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Originally Posted by JJphoto
Yes, but really its probably not a focal length I think I would use much. Maybe if some of my kids and grandkids were involved in indoor sports I would consider it. I had the 500mm F4L when I bought my 300mm F2.8, I really didn't think I would need the 300mm that much but I B&H listed it for $3700 used and it was a +10 so I thought I would take a chance. I take it out sometimes because it is a lot more compact than the 500mm. I have decided not to use the 7D on the 300mm, to just keep the 300mm for the 5D Mark II. I can put the 300mm in one of those sling packs I have, not a full blow back pack like the 500mm, so its more compact. Plus not much degradation at all with the 1.4, so if you go to the local park where all the birds come up to you its somewhat handy.
If you think about it though, with the 300mm and the 500mm you have 420mm and 700mm covered with some really nice IQ as well. So we can skip buying the 400mm and 600mm lenses, all we need is the 800mm F5.6L Is and we would have all the ranges covered. The new II series tele's prices are putting a cramp in this plan though.
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Originally Posted by Joel Eade
Thats what I figured, in overcast light the colors are a lot more flat and undersaturated than in sunny 16 lighting....[:)] But my version is definitely a little more saturated than real life.
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Originally Posted by Joel Eade
Well you'll here one more good thing about it, it's awesome! The noise reduction and color redering is the best that I have tried so far. Here is a link to the trial version to get you started http://www.dxo.com/intl/photo/trial_version. Hope you like it.[Y]
John.
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Originally Posted by Joel Eade
I really like it. A while back, I compared DxO to DPP.
Conropl, those are two fantastic shots to start with. Welcom to the forum and thanks for sharing them with us. You did a good job on the exposure for the eagle - it can be hard to retain the detail in both the white and dark feathers. The owl is beautiful.
JJ, every time I look at your latest pictures I have to go and check the current deals on the 500mm lens. Sadly, the price here has just gone up £100 due to a tax rise. Until I get one, I have to remind myself what's possible with a kit lens and larger subjects, in this case kittiwakes shot handheld from an inflatable boat in Hornsund, Spitsbergen.
http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5130/...c1d1d4b7_z.jpg
5D Mark II, EF24-105mm f/4L IS USM @ 105mm, f/8, 1/250s, ISO 100
http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5249/...a142dea5_b.jpg
5D Mark II, EF24-105mm f/4L IS USM @ 82mm, f/8, 1/400s, ISO 100 tightly cropped
No changes were made to the white balance, the ice really was that blue. I increased the blacks a little on the close-up shot.
Andy, those shots are FANTASTIC. If you you got your hands a 500 or 600 you would give Nate a run for his money!
John.
Despite the 22 degree weather I went out to the lake about 10 miles from home to try some flight shots on gulls ... it was overcast gray skies so the background is boring but I got some nice images.
1DMKIII
300mm 2.8L + 1.4TC II
Hand Held
Manual mode
Evaluative metering
ISO 1600
1/1600
f/6.3
580 EXII + Better Beamer ETTL mode
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How did you get to sync the 580 to such a fast shutter speed?
John.
I set my camera up on a remote timer to get a few shots of the mockingbird in my backyard. The sun was going down and I had to push the exposure about 1.5 stops in post, which explains the extra grain.
<span style="font-size: x-small;"]Canon 7d
<span style="font-size: x-small;"]EF 70-200 f/4<span style="color: #ff0000;"]L<span style="color: #000000;"] <span style="color: #000000;"]USM (200mm)
<span style="font-size: x-small;"]<span style="color: #ff0000;"]<span style="color: #000000;"]<span style="color: #000000;"]Remote Timer
<span style="font-size: x-small;"]<span style="color: #ff0000;"]<span style="color: #000000;"]<span style="color: #000000;"]Manual Mode
<span style="font-size: x-small;"]<span style="color: #ff0000;"]<span style="color: #000000;"]<span style="color: #000000;"]ISO 640
<span style="font-size: x-small;"]<span style="color: #ff0000;"]<span style="color: #000000;"]<span style="color: #000000;"]1/200
<span style="color: #ff0000;"]<span style="color: #000000;"]<span style="color: #000000;"]<span style="font-size: x-small;"]f/6.3
<span style="color: #ff0000;"]<span style="color: #000000;"]<span style="color: #000000;"]<span style="font-size: x-small;"]
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thanks Joel for the camera information. it's a good price, but still $2000 is a lot of money, I'm getting very good result from 7D now, so I'd like to stick with it now, if I got a 1D body, can I resist a version II lens? hm.... dangerous!
I just can't resist to post two more shots I got yesterday, the IQ.... I just can't get that with the 300mm
http://img841.imageshack.us/img841/3631/img2572.png
and this is the most beautiful GBH I have ever seen!
http://img214.imageshack.us/img214/6092/img2452.png
the IQ posted on this forum is not as good as on my Mac[:(]
thanks for viewing!
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Originally Posted by Andy Stringer
well every time I see your pictures here, it makes me want to take a trip like that tomorrow[:D]
nice shots Andy!, I was wondering those bluish color of the ice was from PP or it was like that in real world?
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Originally Posted by Joel Eade
nice! and I guess Denise will have to go out and shoot some birds too despite the weather[:D]
anyway, I feel so lucky living in California, it's pretty warm here and I'm having a trip to La Jolla to shoot those brown pelican tomorrow[:D]
JJ,the ice really was blue. I increased the contrast slightly but didn't mess with the white balance or saturation at all.Quote:
Originally Posted by JJphoto
The ice had broken offa nearby glacier, and glacier ice usually has a blue or green tint. Try this link for an explanation: http://epod.usra.edu/blog/2010/12/blue-glacier-ice.html
Here's another example that shows the difference in colour between the glacier ice and the snow in the background. To avoid going too far off topic, I made sure to choose an example with some more kittiwakes.
http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5006/...a6116973_b.jpg
5D Mark II, EF24-105mm f/4L IS USM @ 105mm, f/8, 1/320s, ISO 100
<p style="padding-left: 30px;"]John,
<p style="padding-left: 30px;"]I turn on high speed sync on the flash ... I know at such extreme shutter speeds it may not be providing much effect ... but I was shooting some other stuff with slower speeds as well.
<p style="padding-left: 30px;"]Joel
One more from New Smyrna Beach, FL
EXIF intact
Thanks for looking, Dan
[View:http://www.pbase.com/dhesling/image/.../original.jpg]
JJphoto ...
nice GBH shot , I love the background, if had moved slightly yo your left or maybe made a slight sound to get him looking at you it would have been killer. ALso some NR on the background will make it better..... that 500mm lens has turned you on brother!!!
Keep on keepin
Another Ring Billed Gull from my outing in the frigid air yesterday .... the sun popped out for a short time and I was able to turn off my flash for this one.
1DMKIII
300mm 2.8l + 1.4TCII
Hand held
Manual mode
ISO 800
f/8
1/3200
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Taken at the park sitting in the car. Cropped about half the frame for the picture as I only have the 70-200f4L IS and Kenko 1.4xtc.
http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_Ab_NE46pN8...1_06_11455.jpg
Jayson, nice shot! like the exposure and sharpness, background looks very dreamy! your kenko TC always gives me surprise! I was wondering if you can cropped a little tighter to get rid of those small branches and still have a enough details on the subject?
Joel, thanks s lot for the comments. would you explain how will a NR filter work in this situation?
and this is the picture I took today in La Jolla, not a very good day, lighting is not very good, only have few keepers and this is one of them
7D, 500mm, f4.5, 1/2000,ISO 400
http://img204.imageshack.us/img204/1149/img2921.png
thanks for viewing!
Jayson, great capture! The colors and bokeh are very nice, I would like to see it in a larger size.
Dan
Dan & JJ - Your GBH shots are awesome!!! Sure make the ones I captured past summer look like they were dying from starvation!
Denise
JJphoto,
In your GBH shot the background looked a little noisy or grainy to me. You could smooth that out with the noise reduction filter and your subject will look better because of it. Here is how I perform that function after all final editing and sharpening :
1. Layer ---- Duplicate Layer ---- opens a window to duplicate the current layer, hit OK
2. The duplicate layer will be visible now and should be highlighted as well over to the right side of the screen in the layers window
3. Filter ---- Noise ---- Reduce Noise ---- set strength to maximum and preserve detail, sharpening to minimum ---- OK
4. Layer ---- Create Layer Mask ---- Reveal all
5. Paint brush tool (set to 100% opacity and look at the two little squares at the bottom of the tool bar :black is on top) ---- adjust the brush size as needed with bracket keys and paint over the bird only. Be very careful on the edges not to spill pver much. This will reveal the layer underneath so only the BG will be seen to have NR.
6. Layer --- flatten image ---- voila!
Joel
Sorry ,Joel, I thought you were talking about something like ND filter[:$]
I should have done some NR but it looked ok in PS, pictures in this forum do look noisier.
JJ, Thanks for the comments. I attempted the cropping a little tighter and I think it still did a good job of maintaining some details. Don't think I could blow it up too much in a print, but here are the two pictures at 800 px. dhesling, here is the full sized picture and then re-cropped and removal of some branches.
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Wow, I like this cropped one and your 1.4XTC too. good job!
Jayson, very nice! You were still able to retain lots of detail!