Check out DPReview.com It is a good as expected. "Weathersealing as good as the EOS-1N."
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Check out DPReview.com It is a good as expected. "Weathersealing as good as the EOS-1N."
Wow!
I am PUMPED... I was debating whether to do weddings with the 5dII and then later get a 1dIII or stick with my 50D that I have right now, but the 7D is PERFECT for what I want.... and they even built in a flash commander! Will wonders never cease ;)
Who's taking pre-order now?I'm excited, but I need to see the review of the high ISO performance. I'm a nature photographer, I've been a long time fan of the 1.6x body, I'm really excited about the 7D new focus system.
I didn't see anything about price, though.
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Originally Posted by Sinh Nhut Nguyen
Amazon is. $1699.99. Seems pretty reasonable.
Awesome! The ultimate birding and sports Canon and finally something to rival the Nikon D300s.
- 19-point AF from the 1D series
- Integrated speedlight transmitter
- Dual DIGIC and 8 FPS
- Environmental protection equivalent to the
legendary EOS–1N- 1.0x for the first time.
- Customizable viewfinder overlays.
- True NTSC frame rates (29.97)
- 24p
I am seriously considering this as a complement to my 5D2.
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I will have to agree with Nate!
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Originally Posted by Daniel Browning
I didn't see it say this anywhere, or any mention of 26 additional "hidden" points. As far as I could tell, it was just a 19 point (all cross type) af. Did I miss something?
Whatever it is, I'd like to see Bryant's review before I drop the cash [:D]
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Originally Posted by Jon Ruyle
My bad. It only says "EOS-1 series", not "EOS-1D series":
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Sounds like a great camera at a previously unused price point.
If I were you daniel I'd have my 16-35 on my 5d and my 70-200 on the 7d. Sounds like an excellent combo.
Gonna wait for the reviews, but I think my XSi is on the way out. A bit bummed that it uses CF cards instead of SD though. I love my flip-down USB SD cards.
And wireless flash control? That's pretty nifty. And finally geotagging.
This will be an excellent secondary body beside the 5D, wonderful!
wow, this is something that wannabe 5D owners will defo go for! Decent price for it as well! Gotta love the 1.0x framing!
Are we going to see the demise of the 40D and 50D? I'll have to keep an eye on the 50D price and snap one up if it falls a few 100 euros.
Would be a shame if they did!
IMO, they fit nicely inbetween the xxx(x)D models and the xD models. MAYBE a 60D will be round the corner thats all hush hush and got lost in translation of the 7D? :P
Well I don't really care for most of the new features, but weather sealing?!!? errr I'm so mad! it's a shame that not all SLRs are weather sealed - they all should be if you ask me, but it's even more shame that the XXD bodies aren't! [8o|]
cian, I don't think that's going to happen, there's still a $600 difference between the 50D and the new 7D - that's $600 which you could buy a 70-200 f/4 L with for instance.
Whooop! There it is!!..............[:D]
Looks like a nice step forward.
You know, the 5D Mark II always looked nice, but it simply wasn't the camera for me. I love my 50D, and now have 2 EF-S lenses I feel I can't give up. Then the 7D is announce...I really, really like the specs on this baby. Right now I'm trying to decide whether to sell my 50D to help finance the new purchase or else buy the 7D and use the 50D as a backup body (my XTi has been on loan to a friend since I got the 50D).
Decisions, decisions, decisions...
Great! Nikon D300s finally killed. Hands down. :)
Reading the specs and all I can say is wow.
They really put a lot of stuff inside a small body.
I can not wait until some real world testing is done to see how it stacks up.
I know where you are coming from on this, Sean. I also have two good EF-S lenses (the 17-55mm f/2.8 and the 10-22mm wide angle), but I did make the decision to go with the 5D Mark II.
I don't regret this at all - it's a wonderful camera, but I found myself continuing to use my old 40D in conjunction with the EF-S lenses as well as the 5D. Now I finally have an option to get a really good APS-C camera that looks like it is going to have speed and auto-focusing capabilities almost as good as those previously only seen in the 1D series.
So between these two cameras, it's hard to see me having any real future need for a 1D camera and I can make full use of all my existing lenses. This is very good for my budget and my photography. :)
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The 7D is a great camera in terms of what we can do now with technology. It's something that makes people say "wow". I respect the technology that Canon has put into the camera.
But practically speaking though, the 7D is pretty much like a 50D made faster and added video. On paper the 7D is in every way a little bit better than the 50D in order to become a Nikon D300s killer; however, I doubt if any of these improvements over the 50D can actually make a photo look a lot nicer. In other words, I can hardly imagine that the 7D is going to make a huge leap forward from the 50D on some of the key performance measures such as AF speed & accuracy, IQ, frame rate...
Would people think about the 7D like this though? - "Wow nice! Great job Canon! But I think I can do 95% of the things with my 50D." Or, it's like this - "Wow, great technology! But what if i can find a good 1D III used for just a few hundred dollars more? Or I can get a great condition 1D IIN right away, could I be more satisfied with these 1-series toys?"
Back to your question, I think the 40D and 50D will remain to be popular since they are not far away from the 7D and they're sold at very reasonable prices. (PS: I think at $1699 the 7D is a lot more of a deal than the D300s at $100 higher!) If I'm the buyer with a budget, I'll get the 50D instead and save the money for some better optics. My 50D combined with all my big L lenses will for sure outrun a 7D with that 15-85 [:D]
Just my thoughts, + & - comments all welcome.
Well put Benjamin, you pretty much said everything that I thought of [Y]
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Originally Posted by Sean Setters
As I've strongly suggested to others, don't sell the 50D. If anything, sell the XTi. Backup body is so important in so many situations.
The two things that are pulling me toward the 7D are video and on-board ETTL control. Those are very nifty features.
That said, I'm not overwhelmed by the ISO performance (although DPReview's sample shots rarely make a camera look like a fantastic performer). I think they're purshing the reasonable limits of the APS-C sized sensor. I'll have to wait for Bryan's conclusions on this one.
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I agree. When you see these specs and start to drool, it isn't a bad idea to stop and think, "how much better will this make my pictures?" For me, I think the answer depends more on autofocus speed and accuracy than anything else. Will it be closer to the 50D or to the 1D? If the latter, the 1DIV will have to be something special to demand a large premium over this camera. 18mp at 8fps is pretty fast.
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is anyone going to buy it for me? please? I want one sooooo badly!! oh, a 50D would be just fine too ;) hahaha
no, seriously, i totally love this camera...I think that I might even go for it, if I had the money...gosh...
and the other problem is that Amazon seems to have some problem with my country, they would only ship books and music to italy...haha oh well... :(
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Let's also see Bryan's opinion on this one later. 18MP on APS-C? I want to see if that can get me more resolution than noise. Personally I need 18mp resolution once or twice per year. [:)]
Daniel Browning - How many pixel do you think is still reasonable for APS-C? In other words, at what resolution do you think we'd better stop and focus on doing something else at this format? (e.g. try to reduce noise rather than increasing pixel) I think the current 15-18mp is quite enough already considering one may only need 1MP for internet and 15MP to print to 11x16'!
Thanks!
Since I'm probably not in the market for this body, having just bought the 5DMKII, it's more interesting to speculate what this means for the next 1D upgrades. The 1DMKIII is a tad faster at 10fps, but gives up a lot of resolution to this new camera. Should we expect the MKIV to debut with 30 megapixels, 3 processors and 12 fps???
It looks like the 7D will be a very nice camera for the semi-pro sports shooters out there.
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I agree. I am making 24x30 prints from my 12.8MP and they are fantastic. I am most interested in the AF improvements. I wish canon could have made this improvement in the 5DmkII.
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Thats what I am looking for. Oh,if I could only afford it when it comes.
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I think Daniel has made his views on this subject pretty clear. [:)]
For some uses, 1mp is enough. For others, we're not even close to having enough resolution.
after the stupid message before, i'm going to give my real opinion on this body:
I really like the fps, the crop, the AF and the built-in flash trigger. Why? Because I'm mainly a sports photographer, and i'm usually stuck in low light, so better AF is really cool. As for the flash trigger, that is because I'm personally interested in getting into lighting and that feature would be really useful to me.
As for the MP and all that stuff, I'm not really concerned: people say that the XSi is quite "unusable" abo ISO 400, but when i'm shooting at ISO 800 and 1600, which is quite often, I'm not finding any real trouble with noise. Plus, Daniel always says that it's just a myth that smaller pixels mean increased noise. So that's just not a concern of mine.
Too bad it would only take CF cards, because i only have SD cards for the XSi...but that won't be a problem. THe REAL concern is price..$1699 is a bit too much for me...even if I sold the XSi with the kit lens and 2 SD cards I could make it something like &1199, which is more reasonable. But, and here's whaat i'm wondering, is the gap between the 50D and the 7D worth spending more or less $700 more? Is it much of an improvement, especially for someone like me upgrading from an XSi?
hopefully i'll figure it out ;)
Andy
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Originally Posted by Jon Ruyle
The 1D series is already something special: durability, customizability, dual card slots, and (according to DB) analog amplifiers in place of some of the digital amplifiers in other models. For its time, the 1D3 and 1Ds3 were some extreme products, and I suspect Canon will deliver. In August/September 2007, the 1D3 was computing 100mp/sec and the 40D was computing 65mp/sec. If that margin holds, we're looking at ~220mp/sec for the 1D4/1Ds4 products (18mp @ 12fps and 36mp @ 6 fps???).
Oh sweet jesus! This IS going to be the upgrade body I'm going to get! I haven't upgraded from my XT because the XXD bodies didn't seem much different and more to offer to me, but this 7D is outstanding! I love the price too, anything below $2,000 is highly attractive to me.
Time to save up for chirstmas time. [H]
But Sean, won't you have to buy Canon 420's or 580's? What will you do with those poor Vivitars? Peanut slave triggers, oh but what about the Canon preflash.....[:D]
Now that the 7D is released, let's start bashing it for what it coulda/woulda/shoulda been and begin speculating what the next 8D should be expected/demanded to have, for performance specs.
I'll be out taking pictures with my previous, crummy cameras.
Let me know how the speculation goes. [;)]