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Bryan's fine description of these two lenses leaves me not sure as to which of these two may have the better image quality, even if by a small margin.
NO other considerations, just IQ.
Given good light, cooperative subject within easy reach of the focal length of each.
Which would it be?
Well, Bryan provides excellent ISO chart crops. Why not take the time to actually look at them yourself and share your thoughts?
Judging by my quick glance at the chart at various apertures, both are top notch. I mean it - top notch. I couldn't find a difference. I doubt many here are qualified enough to read ISO charts well enough to actually interpret the results (this includes me).
The 200mm is known to have great bokeh. I can't comment on the 300mm - though I doubt it's a bad performer. The example shots look great to me.
The 200mm seems to have ever-so-slightly more vignetting wide-open. Keep in mind it's an entire f-stop faster though! I doubt it's an issue AT ALL. At the same aperture settings, the 200mm is slightly slightly slightly minimally less vignetting that the 300mm. No biggie to me.
Assuming you have the $$$ to shell out, I would make my choice based on the question of:
.) Do you need the extra f-stop advantage of the 200mm f/2?
.) Or do you need the extra reach of the 300mm?
.) IS is newer on the 200mm f/2
I don't think the differences are noticeable. And if, they reach pixel-peeper level...
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Originally Posted by Fouad
That's easy. 300mm f/2.8. The ultimate test of any lens is astrophotography. Lenses like the 200mm f/2 which seem pretty sharp for daytime use begin to reveal serious flaws when they try to focus a single star into a point. Here one such review of the 200mm f/2 (scroll down):
http://www.welsh-house.net/andy/review200f2.html
The 300mm f/2.8 does a bit better. But as others said, the difference is so small for daytime photography that no one (in practice) will be able to tell the difference.
He says the 300 f/2.8 does better, but I didnt see if he meant wide open or at the same f/number.
I wouldn't have expected the 200mm to do well wide open.
For astro, I think it makes sense to compare images of the same angular size, or the shorter lens has an advantage (though that isn't how we usually compare lenses... looking at iso crops the usual way, the 200mm looks ever so slightly sharper to me)
Anyhow, the 200mm gets pretty much the same sharpness at f/2 as the 300mm does at f/2.8. I know this wasn't what the op's question was about, but I find the 200 to be the more impressive lens for this reason.
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Originally Posted by Jon Ruyle
I think he meant wide open (f/2 vs f/2.8).
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Originally Posted by Jon Ruyle
Agreed. My idea was to take the astro measurements (where you can't get physically closer) and apply them to the OP's question (where you can get physically closer) to conclude that it's sharper.
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Originally Posted by Jon Ruyle
Agreed.
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So I guess you are not buying any of these lenses are you?
After reading these and other posts and looking at the ISO crops and the lens comparison tool, even though I have a 70-200/2.8L IS lens already, I am going to add the 200/2 to my small collection.
Looking at the ISO crop comparisons, to me at least, the 200/2 seems very slightly the sharper in comparison with the 300/2.8. Also, the 200 has the latest IS and has slight advantage in lower light situations. Focal length wise, while the 300 has the advantage, as several people pointed out, neither is really suitable for true bird photography. If I decide later to get a true bird lens, I will have to go the route of the really heavy stuff and a tripod and that is not what I am willing to do at this time.
I am very impressed with the very fine quality ofmy 70-200/2.8L IS, but comparing it with the 200/L using the Lens comparison tool, the difference is astounding!! I can only imagine the IQ one can expect from the 300/2.8 and the 200/2.
I guess I am going to get a goodmonopod to be able to use the 5DMII with the 200/2.
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Originally Posted by Fouad
Good choice :)
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I think so too, but then they call me crazy.
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The 200mm is amazingly hand-holdable, able to take a handheld picture in 1/6th the light of the 300. In fact, despite its long focal length, the 200mm f/2 is one of the most hand holdable lenses canon makes (a 135mm f/2 IS would be king of this, if only they made one)
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Originally Posted by Fouad
You might consider a slower lighter lens for this, like a 400mm f/5.6. If you think for a moment his isn't a "true bird lens", take a look at what Nate has done with it.
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Originally Posted by Jon Ruyle
i think a 135mm f/2 IS would be the ultimate portrait photographer's dream, that would be an incredible lens
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Originally Posted by Jon Ruyle
i think a 135mm f/2 IS would be the ultimate portrait photographer's dream, that would be an incredible lens