Torn between EF & EF-S Lens choices

I have a 5DMKII and a 7D.


I shoot mostly Surfing, Landscape, night shots and lots of different "action" shots. The 7D will be used for sports while the 5DMKII is used for landscape and other "fixed" scenes.


I cant decide on the Canon 16-35 L or the Canon 10-22EF-S (for the 7D only).


The 7D will be in a water housing while shooting surfing shots.


What lens choices would be best for both cameras with all that I shoot?


I had the 10-22 EF-S before and sold it with a 20D. I thought it was really crisp at focusing but didint too much care for the distortion around the edges. It was a great lens as long as my Surfing subject was within 10-15' away ... anything farther andevery shot needed to be cropped in order to be useful.


Am I wrong for considering the 16-35 L for my desires?


Confused and thankful for anyones input on other possibilties. [*-)]


p.s. ..... 7D's video will be used in the water housing also.

If you've already got a full frame camera, I would most definitely suggest a 16-35, unless you're looking to get the equivalent wide angle on the 7D for size/weight considerations.

As Colin said, since you have a full frame camera, I definitely suggest you get the 16-35 L. If you want a wide angle to shoot landscapes, the 5DMKII with a 16-35 L will be a much better option than the 7D with a 10-22.


Derrick

My desire is to have a lens that works with the 7D as well as the mkII ..... similar in width as the 10-22 but with just a little more reach.


75% of the time, when shooting Surfers while in the water with a housing, they were too far away and didnt fill the frame.


What is the 16-35 L equal to on the 7D's sensor?


Are there other options within that range that can be used on both bodies?


Thanks, y'all

The 16-35 equals approximately 26-56mm on the 7D's sensor.


So are you looking for a lens mostly for shooting surfers with your 7D? But you want that lens to be used on your 5DMKII sometimes too? If you want more reach on your 7D but still want wide angle on your 5DMKII, another option to consider would be the 24-70 f/2.8L or the 24-105 f/4L IS. 24mm is quite wide on the full frame, and 70-105mm may be enough reach for your uses on the 7D.


What lenses do you currently use? What focal lengths do you use most?


Derrick

I wouldn't get a lens that doesn work on half of my camera [:)]. Therefore I'd go with the 16-35. 16-35 on fullframe is extremely wide, and on a 1.6x it works as a really nice walk-around zoom.

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Originally Posted by Bombsight

My desire is to have a lens that works with the 7D as well as the mkII

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Then you've answered your own question :) The EF-S lens is out.

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similar in width as the 10-22 but with just a little more reach

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Isn't that the 16-35? It has pretty much the same width on the 5DII as the 10-22 has on the 7D, and on the 7D it has more reach than the 10-22.


Now if you want a lens that will do all that on both cameras, you would need something like a full frame 10-35 zoom. I don't think you'll find such a thing (closest I know of would be a sigma 12-24, but I don't think it is what you want), and even if you do you'll most likely pay dearly in dollars and/or iq for the full frame superwideness.


If you are willing to give up a little width for the reach (and I would think for pictures of surfers, you would want a lot of reach... more even than you are considering), then I agree with Derrik's suggestion that you consider the 24-70 (or even 24-105 f/4 IS).

If you don'tneed very wide apertures, youcan get both EF-S 16-22 and EF 17-40 f/4L for less than you would spend on 16-35 2.8L.Just a thought.

Gotta have the fast glass! Speed seems to be what is limiting me with my choices. ...... A lot of shots of Surfing are early in the morning or late in the evening .... plus I think the speed of the lens is best for video on the 7D. Need the speed with the 5DMKII when doing landscape also .... late or early with sunrise' and sunsets.


I have the 24-105. Its ideal except for two things.


1. If surfers are REALLY close to me (inside of 10'), the wide end of it, on the 7D, would be a little tight ....


2. I need something faster than F/4





I guess I have answered my own question ..... sometimes one just needs to hear it from everyone else. 16-35 L it is.


Thanks again, y'all. If anyone still thinks of or knows of a fast lens, wide (24mm or wider) and sharp .... with abig reachis out there ... lemme know.

I think the 16-35 L is all there is if you want f/2.8, under 24mm, and full frame + crop compatibility. Looks like that's the best choice for you, especially since you already have the 24-105.


Derrick

Tokina 11-16 f2.8. Great lens great price....done!

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Tokina 11-16 f2.8. Great lens great price....done!

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Doesn't work on Full Frame.


Go with 16-35. I have a 40D and 5DmkII and I don't like to have lenses that don't work on both bodies. I usually only use my 40D for Tele work though.

I have a 7D and a 10-22mm EF-S, and I am pleased with the overall quality. Center sharpness is very good and corners not too distorted or purple fringed. I also have a 5D II, but apart from the 15mm fisheye, I do not have a really wide lens for that camera. What you do need to bear in mind is that you are only going get really wide images on your 7D with the 10-22mm - you can use the 16-35mm on it, but it will not be as wide. It really depends what you want to get with your surfing shots.

Nothing wrong with 16-35 option. However 11-16 is usable on 5D's. You get f2.8 @ 15-16mm. Some vignetting @ 15 with circular occlusion at wider angles. Question becomes a choice wider on 7D ( I have ) or usable 5D @ 16mm f2.8... do I hear a crop in here? 18 or 21 mp your choice. Nothing wrong with the 10-22 either. Check out Kenrockwell, Canon Digital Photography Forums and others for the facts.

I read your post but no anyone else who responded... just want to say....


CANON 14MM F/2.8 L USM!!!


It's the WIDEST non-fisheye lens for a Canon body (FF body) and yet when put on the 7D, is hella-wide still! I'd go that route! Though... you'll need to drop about two-grand for it....

Too much distortion with the 14. Thats one reason why I'm trying to stay away from the 10-22.


A lot of shots with the water housing are made without even looking through the camera. Cropping is often done and distortion can suck sometimes.





Thanks for the suggestion, though.

I have the Canon 7D plus the 10-22mm EF-S and the Canon 5D II plus the 16-35mm EF II.


You might think that you would get a notably better image from the 5D II/16-35mm combo but really, although it is somewhat better, it is not that significant. Only in the corners do you see sharper definition with the 5D II/16-35mm and even then it's not overwhelmingly sharper. I find that the 10-22mm is more flare resistant than the 16-35mm and that can be important too. So I continue to use both. The main advantage of the 16-35mm is the f/2.8 aperture.