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I would like to read some critique for this shot of a lake near Whistler.
http://thebrownings.name/photo/2010-...n/IMG_8408.jpg
5D2, 24mm f/1.4 II, f/11, 1/160, ISO 100, Lightroom 2.4.
EDIT: You are welcome to try your own raw conversion as well. The image is licensed under the Creative Commons Attribution Share Alike license.
CR2 raw file
DNG raw file (for programs like Photoshop CS3 that don't support the 5D2 directly)
I love the composition. I think the rock(s) in the foreground really draw(s) your eye upward to the rest of the frame. I'd probably like to see a touch more saturation but I know that's not your style :-)
Terrific picture!
I was going to say that about the saturation, especially the blue in the sky, but didn't have the guts. Glad to have you step up, Mark! I think the color palette is beautiful, though, and couldn't be better if it were staged.
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I know you don't like lots of saturation, but a slight curves adjustment, using the LAB color mode, does bring out some more color in the rocks, and reduces the luminescence of the sky to a more pleasing blue. The lightness channel was showing a bit of underexposure at the bright end, so I also increased the slope of the curve at that end.
I'm envious that you have access to such beautiful places.
Daniel, nice image. I look forward to seeing more of your work[:)]
Keep in mind, I rarely adjust contrast or saturation...but the first thing I thought when I saw the original image was that it needed a touch of both. Otherwise, I really like it. ;-)
Alan,
I don't really like the color of the rocks anymore. The picture seems to have a different, but undesirable hue that it didn't start with. Not sure how to describe it.
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agree.
maybe try brightening it?
brendan
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Originally Posted by HiFiGuy1
Apart from the rocks, I don't see much of a different hue to the image. This is where personal tastes come into play, I would suppose.
Thanks for the feedback, everyone. I like your rendition, Alan.
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interesting indeed.....[^o)]
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Very nice work, Daniel. The composition is good, colors are well balanced. I would experiment with the green tones in the water, maybe increase saturation just a little bit. The transition between the green tones in the water and the trees are good but maybe a little more green could be nice.
I think the composition is great but it feels a little warm to me. Maybe a slight reduction in the colour temp would help.
A couple of things would help this shot out -
1. CPL filter to get rid of those reflections and deepen the colour of the water. Might also bring out the blues of the sky.
2. Graduated ND filter to give some sky a bit of drama. A bit hard to do with a CPL attached at the same time though. I notice you used Lightrooom 2 for post, maybe add a -exposure graduated filter in LR.
Just my thoughts anyway - since when did I give you advice anyway Daniel. Surely it's got to be the other way around!
BTW Daniel - I've started using the AF-ON button for focus as you suggested in another post. I love it, can't believe I never tried it before. I'm just thinking about all those missed opportunities. Cheers.
The scene looks great.I agree withbtaylor. Perhaps a polarizer would have allowed the gravel under the water to look clearer and enhanced the sky and clouds.
I hope you didn't take the shot recently or else the Winter Olympics will be a bust.
Daniel,
I amneither very experienced nature photographer nor photography critic, but here are my 2 pennies.
The composition is strong and harmonious: foreground interest, nice reflection, placement of the horizon and the saddle, interesting sky - all are pleasure to look at.
As far ascolor/saturation/contrast settings go,I have no problem with them, but if you (for example) wanted to sell the photograph there would be a demand to boost them some.
The only things I finda little distractingare the leaf andthose smalltwigsin the bottom right corner. I would clonethem out.
Overall, I likethe picture very much, andI'm looking forward to see more [:)]
Pete
This thread is an example where the suggestions about color, saturation, etc. need to be placed visually, for all to see what is meant by them.
It would be best to download Daniel's picture, do the adjustments you are referring to, then repost the image for all to see.
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I have to disagree. If the water lost reflectivity then that beautiful blue path leading up and to the right might have been diminished.
The colors and contrast in this shot are really bold. If it weren't for the reflection on the water I'd have guessed you used a polarizer.
Thanks for the additional feedback everyone, I appreciate it a lot.
Better yet -- download the raw file itself!Quote:
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Download the original raw file
I would love it if some of you could try your own raw conversion of it. The image is licensed under the Creative Commons Attribution Share Alike license.
Good suggestion. I could also rotate the polarizer to *increase* the reflections. I'll have to try it both ways.Quote:
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[:D] I need all the help I can get.Quote:
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Excellent! It's amazing how many features our cameras have.Quote:
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[:D] It's from September - I was really lucky to get such beautiful weather for that time of year.Quote:
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I agree.Quote:
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I like the composition. I did a RAW conversion along the lines of what I'd do to my own shot, I probably laid of the blues more than I normally would though.
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Daniel, Love the Composition---try some black and white with heavy red filter. Then Mess with the other filters to see what works.
I tried to download your original "raw" file but it downloaded as an unsupported Tiff file. Anyway, this looks like an Ansell Adams pic in the rough----Again, I think B&W is the way to go. Giveit a shot and let us see the results.
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I think it's a very good idea totry different degrees of polarization. Sometimes things look better polarized, other times they look better less polarized or even unpolarized. I sometimes blend polarized foliage (punchier colors) with unpolarized water (nice reflections).
Well I had a little play with your image Daniel to see what I could come up with. I had the same issue with the RAW file as somebody else here did so I had to use the downsized jpeg (so not optimal but worked ok).
First thing I did was reduce the colour temp so it looked nice and cool (as whistler probably is at any time of the year - remember I live smack back in the middle of Australia so if it's below 35 deg celcius I consider it cold).
Then I added a slightminus exposure graduated filter in LR2 to get a little more definition in the clouds toward the top of the frame.
Also cloned out the distracting leaves/ twigs in the the bottom right corner of the frame in CS4 (very roughly though).
Next step was to reduce the exposure and slightly increase the saturation of the first mountain to seperate it more from the mountain behind it. I also dodged the snowy looking sections on the side of the mountain to add some more interest.
And that was it I think. Anyway here's the result. [:D] Hope you like!
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Your interpretation is great.Quote:
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Thanks for the suggestion.Quote:
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It's probably because the 5D2 is not supported by your program. Try this DNG version of the raw file:Quote:
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2009-09-15-8408.dng
Looks great!Quote:
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You might try the DNG file above.Quote:
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That really helps. It makes the rock more of a distinct circle, which adds to the image I think.Quote:
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These are great modifications.Quote:
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This was a fun little attempt to make a picture improvement. Not real
sure if my attempt to make it better worked but since I spent the time
on it thought I'd post it.
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Thanks! Tried to make it look not too edited.
http://www.crosbyharbison.com/files/img.jpg
Here's my attempt :P
Ok, Here is my attempt. Still needs some work around the mountains, but I think you will get the idea. Thanks for letting us mess with your already great work.
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HMMM, The conversion and upload came out a little too dark
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I had a hard time getting an ideal B&W conversion too.
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I like this a lot. In fact, it's great.
Okay, Daniel, with all these examples, what did you actually see when you took the shot? Was the water that blue? The sky? The trees...were they greenish or bluish? Did the mountains look greenish or bluish?
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What I actually saw (IIRC) was a bit bland. The water was a beautiful blue-green, but sky was dull blue. I don't remember the trees. I wasn't planning to shoot there at all in fact, I was on my way to photograph some mountain glaciers and a different lake at sunset.
Had a little more time to apply to this project so I thought I'd make a revision:
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Daniel, I am NOT a landscape photographer by any stretch, but find your image well done. My eye moves around the image which is something I look for in all art. I took the liberty of doing a few layers in Photoshop to enhance the image to my own taste.
- Added a Multiply layer with a gradient mask
- Added a Soft Light layer with a gradient mask
- Ran a Curve layer
Thanks for the chance to view one of your pieces.
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Daniel, here is my interpretation of your photograph. Converted in DPP and adjusted in PS with some NIK filters. I really enjoyed editing your photo, thanx for the opportunity to edit your RAW file, it was fun!
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These are all really great, everyone. I enjoy seeing the other takes on it a lot!
Here is my take on this image.
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How do you like it?
Cheers,
John.
degreened the lake to better show reflections, adjusted aquas/blues for sky, dropped yellows to cool the rock. may have went to far with yellow..that was fun. [:)]
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