Off Topic...Feel like you're being nickle and dimed to death???
I sure do. I mean spending money on something cool like a body, lens or a flash is one thing but filters, gels, stands, batteries, memory cards, software, hard drives, Flickr account, Radio Triggers, etc...
How do you explain all of this to the wife???
I can show/explain toher what a lens (as long as it's a zoom!!!) or lights can do but a ND filter, RF triggers "but don't you have that thing (ST-E2), already?", circular polarizer? Her eyes just glaze over...
(I think she starts day dreaming about purses,shoes, you know chic stuff [:P])
I wish I could get her interested enough to want some of the same things.
I wanted to rant more but now I'm tired and gotta go to bed, thanks for listening. [|-)]
Re: Off Topic...Feel like you're being nickle and dimed to death???
I have a different problem. My wife knows most of that list... perhaps not ND filters and gels, nor does it have to be a zoom (she loves the nifty fifty). I need to somehow convince her that money can go towards other things than new lenses (she's currently dreaming of the 100-400mm).
Unfortunately, I don't think anyone on this forum knows a cure for lens lust. How can anyone be expected to fight double lens lust? So you see, if your wife was interested, life wouldn't necessarily be any easier.
Re: Off Topic...Feel like you're being nickle and dimed to death???
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I don't think anyone on this forum knows a cure for lens lust
profoto lust
Re: Off Topic...Feel like you're being nickle and dimed to death???
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Originally Posted by crosbyharbison
profoto lust
Seriously budget damage there.
I was tossing a coin between 85 1.2 and Set of Dynalites.
85L won.
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Hi, Jarhead5811!
IMO, it should not be a problem to convince a woman you need to spend 2-3-5 k$ on lighting equipment to make HER looking much better on the picture.
Make one shot where all her wrinkles and blemishes are clearly seen, harsh shadows etc etc. Then start buying one by one all the lighting equipment you need and shoot her each time you buy a new thing. Of course, each next picture to show her looking better than on the previous one. Then she will get a reflex soon - the more gear you have the better she looks on the pictures.
What do you think of that?
Re: Off Topic...Feel like you're being nickle and dimed to death???
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Originally Posted by Jarhead5811
I mean spending money on something cool like a body, lens or a flash is one thing but filters, gels, stands, batteries, memory cards, software, hard drives, Flickr account, Radio Triggers, etc...
It's all about quid pro quo. [;)]As long as you keep the number of camera bags you have lower than the number of purses she has, it's fine. Want a new bag? Go shopping for a purse first. Need a CPL? How about a nice new pair of polarized sunglasses for her, first? Then she can see firsthand the benefits of polarization.
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Originally Posted by Jarhead5811
I mean spending money on something cool like a body, lens or a flash is one thing but filters, gels, stands, batteries, memory cards, software, hard drives, Flickr account, Radio Triggers, etc...
It's all about quid pro quo. [img]/emoticons/emotion-5.gif[/img]As long as you keep the number of camera bags you have lower than the number of purses she has, it's fine. Want a new bag? Go shopping for a purse first. Need a CPL? How about a nice new pair of
polarized sunglasses for her, first? Then she can see firsthand the benefits of polarization.
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LOL
Listen to him. He knows how a woman's mind works.
Re: Off Topic...Feel like you're being nickle and dimed to death???
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Originally Posted by Jarhead5811
I mean spending money on something cool like a body, lens or a flash is one thing but filters, gels, stands, batteries, memory cards, software, hard drives, Flickr account, Radio Triggers, etc...
It's all about quid pro quo. [img]/emoticons/emotion-5.gif[/img]As long as you keep the number of camera bags you have lower than the number of purses she has, it's fine. Want a new bag? Go shopping for a purse first. Need a CPL? How about a nice new pair of
polarized sunglasses for her, first? Then she can see firsthand the benefits of polarization.
Hi!
Your way is more expensive, I think, but more woman-oriented.
May I suggest an "improvement"? Considering the sunglasses you mentioned consist of 2 glasses, Jarhead may try to get 2 filters at once? [:)]
Alex.
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Originally Posted by crosbyharbison
profoto lust
Seriously budget damage there.
I was tossing a coin between 85 1.2 and Set of Dynalites.
85L won.
Hi!
How many times did you toss the coin before 85 won?[:)]
Alex.
Re: Off Topic...Feel like you're being nickle and dimed to death???
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Originally Posted by alex_sb
May I suggest an "improvement"? Considering the sunglasses you mentioned consist of 2 glasses, Jarhead may try to get 2 filters at once?
Why not 4? Polarized sunglasses are actually dual-function - neutral density and polarizing, and there are 2 lenses.
Re: Off Topic...Feel like you're being nickle and dimed to death???
It's not nickel and dimed. It is more like $50-ed and $100-ed to death. My wife asked for my "wishlist" of camera gear, and then commented that there are no small things on the list. Unfortunately, the small things, like batteries, filters, remote shutter release, are $50-100 apiece. I bet you couldn't even get a logo keychain for a small price.
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Originally Posted by neuroanatomist
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Originally Posted by alex_sb
May I suggest an "improvement"? Considering the sunglasses you mentioned consist of 2 glasses, Jarhead may try to get 2 filters at once?
Why not 4? Polarized sunglasses are actually dual-function - neutral density
and polarizing,
and there are 2 lenses.
Aren't those arguments complicated a bit: "dual-function", "neutral density", "polarizing".
Mine are simple: "honey, you have 2 glasses and I have 2 glasses". [:D]
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My wife shoots too, but she shoots Nikon (she started before we met, what can I say?). The problem for us is that if I get a new lens/flash/whatever, she wants one too, only in the nikon version.
Twice the price and I can't even borrow her stuff without everything being backwards!
Re: Off Topic...Feel like you're being nickle and dimed to death???
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Originally Posted by realityinabox
My wife shoots too, but she shoots Nikon (she started before we met, what can I say?). The problem for us is that if I get a new lens/flash/whatever, she wants one too, only in the nikon version.
Twice the price and I can't even borrow her stuff without everything being backwards!
Hi!
I see a positive side in it - she CAN NOT borrow your precious gear. [:)]
Alex.
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There was an awesome post on POTN (alas, I'm not welcome there so I can't dig it up) where a guy was at work, and his wife had a friend visiting at the house. Wife called husband and said "Why do you have three cameras?"
His first thought: "Phew, she only found three cameras!" :D
I get stuck the other way, as my woman also shoots Canon. I bought a 7D in February with the thought that it'd become hers next year when I get a 1D4. I want a 24-70, but know that I can't sell my 24-105 to get it as she wants the 24-105. I want some super-telephoto glass, but know that I have to get us a second wide-angle (thankfully I've talked her into the 10-22 for now instead of the 14L) and a second telephoto (at least the 70-200/4IS is far cheaper than the 70-200/2.8IS, but I really wanted to get the 70-200/2.8IS II and give her the I) first. At least she doesn't like carrying heavy lenses, so I won't have to buy two of each as I move into 24-70 and the white primes.
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Originally Posted by peety3
There was an awesome post on POTN (alas, I'm not welcome there so I can't dig it up) where a guy was at work, and his wife had a friend visiting at the house. Wife called husband and said "Why do you have three cameras?"
His first thought: "Phew, she only found three cameras!" :D
I get stuck the other way, as my woman also shoots Canon. I bought a 7D in February with the thought that it'd become hers next year when I get a 1D4. I want a 24-70, but know that I can't sell my 24-105 to get it as she wants the 24-105. I want some super-telephoto glass, but know that I have to get us a second wide-angle (thankfully I've talked her into the 10-22 for now instead of the 14L) and a second telephoto (at least the 70-200/4IS is far cheaper than the 70-200/2.8IS, but I really wanted to get the 70-200/2.8IS II and give her the I) first. At least she doesn't like carrying heavy lenses, so I won't have to buy two of each as I move into 24-70 and the white primes.
You've got a good woman there Peety. Hang on to her!
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I have a different problem. My wife knows most of that list... perhaps not ND filters and gels, nor does it have to be a zoom (she loves the nifty fifty). I need to somehow convince her that money can go towards other things than new lenses (she's currently dreaming of the 100-400mm).
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Originally Posted by alex_sb
IMO, it should not be a problem to convince a woman you need to spend 2-3-5 k$ on lighting equipment to make HER looking much better on the picture.
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small things, like batteries, filters, remote shutter release, are $50-100 apiece. I bet you couldn't even get a logo keychain for a small price.<o:p></o:p>
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