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Hi guys! I turn to you again for another critique on my try on another setup portrait shoot. This one is kinda soft as it's a only a crop from a head-to-waist portrait orientation shot.
1000D + 50mm @ 50mm, f/2.8, 1/200sec, ISO 200
http://lh6.ggpht.com/_7nO3EBpvAsc/TE...risse_02_2.JPG
Again, thank you for viewing and sharing your thoughts.
- Angelo
I really like it, but I don't do portraits and know less than nothing about them.
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I really like it...in fact, there's only one thing I find that I don't like about it--and that's the hair that's flipped up in front of her jawline. Other than that, fantastically executed.
Lovely girl, shot and moment. That said you have both the very thin DOF of f/2.8 and a relatively long exposure of 1/200th working against you.
f/5.6 1/400th ISO 600 (or 800) for example would hold more focus and feature your model better. If you have speed lights of course you can drop that ISO back down and go f/16 or 22.
In camera smoothing is another issue and probably not required for this model. As far as directing the model a little more eye contact would help. I always try to get a bit of white on each side of the iris.
I don't know how you are managing focus in this shot, but it looks like the clothing is sharper than the face. Manually choosing an AF point is effective, choosing a center auto focus point and then pulling focus and recomposing the shot can work but is not recommended for thin DOF work.
BTW - I really like the balance of light here, and having her hair in motion really adds to the shot. Do you have a Model Mayhem page? Keep on shootin!
-Shea
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I like the way she is looking back across the frame. By "eye contact" did you mean you would prefer she was looking at the camera?
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Thank you Iguide!
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You're right on that one Sean about the flipped hair. I didn't like it as well but that's the best I could get from the set I had. I didn't notice it until I was cropping the photo. Thank you again. By the way, I love your Senka set at Flickr.
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I guess the thin DOF have a little play with this focus issue. I've used a speedlite bounced off a white wall (camera right). I can only have it at 1/200th as it's my max flash sync. I could have opted to do HSS but that would burn my power fast and I believe my triggers don't support it.
Thinking now, I could have gone up to ISO 400. [:)]
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Oppsss.. what's camera smoothing? Sorry I'm clueless on this terms. Would you mean by a little more eye contact is to have her look not fully to her right and somewhere between in-camera and her extreme right?
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I have the center AF on this which I think I should have improved if I selected another AF point. As you have pointed out earlier, the thin DOF has a play in this.
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Thanks, Shea! No, I don't have a Model Mayhem page. You got me curious and I'll be checking on this.
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Maybe in between her extreme right and in-camera..
Agree with the hair at the jawline as a distraction and typically you want some white on both sides of the iris. But it still is a good photograph despite
I really like it, a lot. But what is the perfect pose, hair position, amount of white in the eye (sclera) showing, back ground, lighting, etc etc.
I have been reading this forum for quite some time and am yet to recall a photo that someone has submitted for critique that has been deemed
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Considering photography is highly subjective, I do not believe a "perfect" image exists. What one may find perfect, another is not so impressed. You must remember that here at TDP, we have photographers at all skill levels from the beginning hobbyist to the highly professional. If I were to take this photo above, for me it would be perfect considering I am as low on the totem pole as you can get for skill level. I have watched the OP photos improve greatly over time & I believe he is just looking at ways to keep improving his skill.
I don't believe anyone is trying to find fault in anyone's photos, just merely suggest ways for improvement in future shots. My feelings are if someone is going to point out a negative on someone's photo, a suggestion for improvementshould accompany it. IMO, no one's skill level is so high that there isn't anymore room for improvement.Quote:
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BTW - Very nice photo again, Angelo but I do agree with the others about the whites of the eyes. Maybe have her look slightly past you next time. I look forward to seeing more of your photos soon!!
Denise
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Thanks John! I
agree with the hair at the jawline as a distraction. I myself gets drawn
to that part.
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Thanks Scott for the positive remarks! I appreciate it very much but c'mon, let's not get too heated in here. "Perfect"-ness of a photo is quite relative just like a saying goes -- "Beauty is in the eye of the beholder". We all view "perfect" and "beauty" differently, right? My purpose of seeking critique was to get input from others. I believe the final say on whether we have to adapt to their suggestions is entirely upon us.
I do really appreciate all the critique and comments, whether they are good or not, but I take all of it as input maybe to further improve or take into consideration into future occasion.
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Yes it's very highly subjective.. and relative if I may add.
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Thanks Denise, for your input. I guess the white on the eyes (catch lights) will somehow vary depending on what the photo is intended for. But maybe, for this photo, I'd try for another session and have a look at it.
I'm looking forward for more critique and comments. [:)] It's a work in progress.
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Guess it's my turn then [;)]
Great shot Angelo! I'm not really bothered by the slight softness of the photo, it might even be positive for this shot. Although a sharp sourcephoto would be the best of course.
Talking about the original...what does it look like?? [A] I must say that your crop works really well for me. The slight breeze in her hair, the eyes pointing to the empty space on the left...I like it! If she was looking just slightly less angled so you'd see just a bit more eye-white on the left of her pupils it would be better, I agree with that. And yeah the hair in her jawline.. well I probably wouldn't have seen it during the shoot either [A] How high does the hair on top of her head blow up? Sorry for the messed up sentence, but I'm curious if you cropped slightly less you could have all of her hair in the frame?
Anyway I like the composition, lighting, colors...it's a great shot!
Jan
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Please do so...
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Thank you Jan!
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Here's the somewhat original photo.. [:)] Not much blowed hair on top...
http://lh3.ggpht.com/_7nO3EBpvAsc/TE...ise_orig01.JPG
Would've this worked better??? [:$]
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Nah... I love the horizontal crop Angelo! Makes the image look much stronger, but thanks for showing me the picture!
Good framing and I don't know if I had seen the idea of the horizontal crop myself, so good job! [Y]
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Thanks Jan! [:D]
Now I have to get these sort of shots myself and I'm happy too [;)]
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I know you can also get these sort of shots yourself.. I am happy to get these kinds of shots.. [:D]