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<p class="MsoNormal"]That&rsquo;s right boys and girls, it&rsquo;s very, very important to
use protection to prevent Serious or Total Damage to your photography
gear.<span> Although I doubt that a thin
layer of latex would help much, a polypropylene copolymer case with a
watertight seal should do the trick.
<p class="MsoNormal"]If photography is your day job, you almost certainly have
Pelican cases or the equivalent.<span>
If photography is not your day job, your camera gear most likely spends
a significant amount of time being stored somewhere in your home. <span>Pipes burst.<span>Toilets overflow. Kids spill juice.<span>
Accidents happen.<span>
Considering the investment made in gear, the cost of a durable, waterproof
case is minor by comparison.<span>
Insurance is needed too, of course, but prevention is better than
cure.<span>
<p class="MsoNormal"]For that reason, I recently decided to move my gear from a
drawer and assorted camera bags in the closet, and transfer it all to a hard
case.<span> The challenge was, which
one?<span> Even considering only the
Pelican brand, there are many options from which to choose.<span> Wheels or no wheels?<span> Padded dividers or foam?<span> Lid organizer or not?<span> Most importantly, what size?<span>
<p class="MsoNormal"]For me, wheels were not important &ndash; this case is for home
storage, not transport.<span> I wanted
the flexibility to rearrange my gear over time, meaning dividers instead of pluckable foam.<span> A lid organizer is nice for
storing the miscellaneous stuff.<span>
That still left the issue of size &ndash; there are a lot of options!<span> I wanted something relatively flat - <span>a case tall enough to store a 70-200mm f/2.8 lens vertically would mean stacking the more numerous shorter lenses, or
a lot of unused space.<span>
<p class="MsoNormal"]I decided on the Pelican 1604 (aka 1600 with padded
dividers).<span> Here&rsquo;s the new case, surrounded
by my Lowepro bags &ndash;Toploaders (Pro 65AW and Pro 75AW), a Flipside 400, and
several Lens Cases:
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<p class="MsoNormal"]Here&rsquo;s the layout of the gear inside:
<p class="MsoNormal"]http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4137/...abb512bd_b.jpg
<p class="MsoNormal"]I decided to store the lens cleaning solution in its own
waterproof micro case, since it doesn&rsquo;t make sense to have gear in a waterproof
case then store liquid inside that case.
<p class="MsoNormal"]So far, I&rsquo;m quite pleased with the case.<span> It&rsquo;s big, but not too big.<span> It&rsquo;s not light &ndash; 26 pounds of gear and
16 pounds of empty case.<span> But it&rsquo;s
easy enough to carry from room to room or up a flight of stairs, and that&rsquo;s as
far as it has to go.<span>The fact that I wasn't limited to black or tan as color choices, as is the case for many of the medium and large cases, was a nice bonus.
<p class="MsoNormal"]<span>I have only
two concerns at this point:
<p class="MsoNormal"]First, there&rsquo;s not as much extra room as I had hoped there
would be.<span> It&rsquo;s not a big issue &ndash;
it does hold all my gear, and it&rsquo;s not tightly packed, so I can reorganize to
make more room (I&rsquo;m hoping for a 35mm f/1.4L II and wishing for a 5DIII).<span> Also, I&rsquo;ll likely get a Pelican 1510
before my next airline trip, so I&rsquo;ll have two cases among which I can distribute
my gear.
<p class="MsoNormal"]Second, the [url="http://www.pelican.com/support/guarantee.php]Pelican guarantee[/url].<span> Not the tag line (&ldquo;You break it, we replace it, forever,)
but the fine print.<span> It
specifically excludes damage caused by shark bite, bear attack, and children
under five.<span>I know it&rsquo;s a tough case, but I&rsquo;ve
seen what my two year old can do! [:O]
<p class="MsoNormal"]Bottom line, I highly recommend getting a tough, waterproof
hard case to store your gear around the house.
<p class="MsoNormal"]--John
<p class="MsoNormal"](Ps. As near as I can determine, this thread was the last
one posted before the server went belly-up earlier this week &ndash; the above is my
attempt to recreate it from memory.)
<p class="MsoNormal"](Pps. Forum seems to still be having trouble with TDP-hosted images - I know Bryan is working on it, but for now I'll just link these from elsewhere.)

Looked at the tittle, post too long to read, just looked at the picture so where are the condoms?


PS, great stuff man![:)]

Good stuff John. Pelican cases are fantastic. We use them underground to hold a heap of different instruments and they're fairly indestructive. Although I had a remote blasting box hooked up which was blown off the wall during blasting then run over by a 50 tonne loader - it didn't survive that one.


Have a look at Storm Cases as well for your next buy. They are very similar to Pelican cases in construction but I find the latches to be a lot more user friendly. i.e the good old Pelican "knuckle buster" latches can be a pain in the... finger if they get a bit tight. Pelican actually bought out Storm a couple of years ago and started selling them as Pelican Storm cases so they must be the goods. I've got a couple at work and they're just as robust.


Ben.

Great post, John. Thanks. So far I've mostly been using backpacks. Lots and lots of backpacks. But I'd like to get a hard case.

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blown off the wall during blasting then run over by a 50 tonne loader - it didn't survive that one.

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What!? I'm going to make sure I get one that can survive being run over by at least 100 tonnes. [;)]

Thanks for the very thorough review, I really enjoyed it!


It looks like one of these cases might be in my future!


Rich

Nice setup, you definitely have an investment in lenses. Just hope no one ever breaks into your house and finds that case because that's a very simple way to lose all your valuable equipment in a simple grab and go. I am not a crook but posting all your equipment on the web might/could invite trouble. You never know now a days with all the info that can be found out on the web. This was just the first thing that came to mind when I saw this post. One day I would like to get a case like this for airplane travel but that would require more out of state jobs to pay for the case.





-Bryan

Nice review John and I agree with your enthusiastic recommendation. I also have a Pelican 1510 and love it. It has replaced most of my bags and my equipment is always in it. I carry it just about every whereand in all sorts of weather--so I do like the wheeled version. I would also recommend this for airline travel since it meets the requirementsand should be able to survive the "flight attendant over head storage management process" it should also survive the dual bowling ball bag or the Snap-On tool box that i<span style="font-family: Verdana; color: black; font-size: 9pt;"]nevitably gets placed next your camera case. I would never put a soft case in the overhead!!!


For those contemplating purchasing a mobile pelican---dont forget the lid organizer---it will easily free up at least two standard lens sections that would otherwise be used for batterys, shutter release, rocket blower, cleaning material, filters, etc. It saved me from having to upgrade to the 1610, at least for the time being.





Bob

Thanks for the thorough review, John. Which model # of the 1604 has wheels?

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Which model # of the 1604 has wheels?

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None. The 1560, 1610, and 1620 have wheels, but they are different sizes/shapes than the 1600 - and they are all taller, which I didn't really want.

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John, you are a hoot. Provocative title with accurate and powerful delivery. Sex gets em every time. Very well done.


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I recently bought a pelican 1550. It good.


(Okay, not as detailed as John's review, but you get the idea)


There's not much not to like. The hardest part is deciding on the size.

Very nice, John!Thanks for making me realize just how disorganized things have become around my place! Now if I could just figure out where to put all the other stuff I've accumulated! Let me know if you ever come across a case that will hold two tripods, two light stands, a backdrop stand, softboxes, umbrellas a beauty dish and various misc. items! [:P]

Denise

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John,<span>you are a hoot. Provocative title with accurate and powerful delivery.

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Thanks, Wayne!

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I recently bought a pelican 1550. It good.

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It good, indeed! The 1550 was on my short list (along with the 1560 and 1610, until I decided to forego wheels). The 1550 is essentially the same height as the 1600, similar style. What swayed me to the 1600 over the 1550 was the extra couple of inches on each side (which I needed, as it turned out) and the fact that a lid organizer is available for the 1600, but not for the 1550.


You left out the most important fact about your 1550 - what color did you get?

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Let me know if you ever come across a case that will hold two tripods, two light stands, a backdrop stand, softboxes, umbrellas a beauty dish and various misc. items!

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That's easy - it's called a closet. [:P] Ok, not waterproof or very protective - but the size (and price) are just right!

I really like this forum. Providing solutions to problems that I am just begining to realize I have. I had been thinking of storing my camera gear at home in a camera bag, but now I'll look at a pelican case. Thanks.....


Same thing just happened in another thread where someone provided a link to "macro rails".....makes perfect sense.


BTW, I can't wait for the after school special on STDs. Kids everywhere will have safer cameras and camera phones.

John:





Yea, I really like the part about a two yr. old. You might have an inkling of what is to come, but actually most likely have no idea. Wait till the teen yrs., you'll have fun then. Mine are all grown &amp; gone and the next young one in my life will most likely be a grandchild. Unless, my young wife of 10 yrs can convince me to get a reversal and make more myself. I aint to sure bout thatun though.





Godspeed


Wayne


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Hmmmm.... good luck!

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You left out the most important fact about your 1550 - what color did you get?

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Light gray. I didn't want black because I use it at night (it holds astrophotography gear) and didnt want it to get too hot during the day. I didn't know it was avaliable in bright yellow or I might have gotten that :)


I also considered the 1610 because of the wheels, but it wasn't quite the right shape. I have a doskocil extra large (another very nice case) and was looking for another in just about that size.


Mine is foam instead of divided, which I don't think I would recommend for lenses and more standard photography gear, but which was perfect for what I needed.

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First, there&rsquo;s not as much extra room as I had hoped there
would be.<span> It&rsquo;s not a big issue &ndash;
it does hold all my gear, and it&rsquo;s not tightly packed, so I can reorganize to
make more room (I&rsquo;m hoping for a 35mm f/1.4L II and wishing for a 5DIII).

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I would just sell off the 85 f/1.8 since you have the 1.2 version already. The 5d could fit if you put both bodies in without lenses attached.

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I would just sell off the 85 f/1.8 since you have the 1.2 version already.

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Yes, I'll do that at some point soon. I wasn't sure if I'd need the faster AF at some point in the future, but I haven't used the 85mm f/1.8 since getting the85mm f/1.2<span style="color: red;"]L II, which pretty much answers my question.

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Have a look at Storm Cases as well for your next buy. They are very similar to Pelican cases in construction but I find the latches to be a lot more user friendly. i.e the good old Pelican "knuckle buster" latches can be a pain in the... finger if they get a bit tight.Pelican actually bought out Storm a couple of years ago and started selling them as Pelican Storm cases so they must be the goods. I've got a couple at work and they're just as robust.

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I was looking for a case for carrying on a plane, and debated the Pelican 1514 (1510 with dividers) vs. the Storm im2500. One of the things I hate about buying cases/bags online is that you can't test the fit of your gear. Both the 1514 and the im2500 meet the airline requirements and have very similar exterior dimensions. But the internal dimensions (more important for obvious reasons) are a bit different - the Peli is 0.4" deeper, whereas the shallower Storm is 0.5" wider and 0.75" taller. While those don't sound like much, 1/2" can make the difference between a lens upright vs. on its side, or a gripped body not fitting.


I decided on the Storm im2500. To be honest, part of the decision was that it comes in yellow (which matches my Peli 1600, but also stands out better than basic black or desert tan). The latches are much easier than the Pelican (even after they updated them to the double-throw style). As it turns out, that 0.4" of height makes a difference - the 5DII is a very tight fit in the im2500 lying on its side (it wouldn't fit upright in either case without removing the grip).


My first thought was, "Should I return this for the Peli?" But then I thought some more - about why I want/need the case. The only other time I've traveled with my gear by plane (Boston to San Francisco), I simply put it in my Lowepro Flipside 400AW and carried it on the plane, and around town in the same pack. That was a direct flight, and we had a car once we got there. For our trip to China, I'm facing the realistic possibility that I'll have to check the bag at some point - thus the hard case (and a set of Tamperseal locks). But, traveling around China, I'm not going to take a hard case with me walking around! So, if I pack my gear in the hard case for the trip, what do I do with the Flipside 400AW that I'll need to carry it around during the day? Fill it with socks and underwear and check it? Seems a little silly...


The solution is obvious, and Bryan suggested it in one of his hard case reviews - remove the dividers and put the padded camera bag(s) directly in the hard case. Here, the 0.5" of width is definitely in the Storm's favor - the loaded Flipside 400AW is a tight fit for depth in the empty im2500, but it turns out the limiting dimension is width, and while I can get it into the Storm, I think it wouldn't fit into the slightly narrower Peli.


So, thanks for your suggestion of looking into Storm Cases, Ben - I think the im2500 will work out well! Once I round out my lens collection for the trip, I'll do a test-pack to make sure it all fits, and post some pics.

Glad to help. I actually bought the Storm im3300 rifle case a couple of months back and it

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I like the look of the im2400 / 2450 but will have to do some measuring. I really just want to hold the 5D2 gripped...

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Measure carefully, and don't forget the padding/foam. I don't think the 2400 will work - I tried out the im2075 with the idea of keeping a gripped body (7D at the time) with attached 17-55/24-105, and a 430EX II, in a downstairs closet for quick access. The gripped 7D would not fit with the padded dividers in place - the case was not deep enough, and the im2400 is shallower than the im2075. So, the im2075 went back. The im2450 should work fine for you, though.

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Just hope no one ever breaks into your house and finds that case because that's a very simple way to lose all your valuable equipment in a simple grab and go.

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That would be my fear as well.


After a few bad dreams that I came home and all mylens were gone, I invested in a box to store mine as well. It is not to portable, weighs 1600 lbs and has a prety good locking system on it.

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Just hope no one ever breaks into your house and finds that case because that's a very simple way to lose all your valuable equipment in a simple grab and go.

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That would be my fear as well.

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From my limited knowledge of the subject (based mostly on Discovery Channel and TLC shows on theft), it wouldn't matter if the camera gear is stored in a bright yellow Peli case, in a camera bag in the closet, or stashed in several drawers around the house. 'Professional' thieves will be in and out in minutes and are very thorough. The home security system will deter 'casual' thieves, and the gear is covered by separate insurance against loss. The case isn't to protect from theft (ultimately, nothing can prevent that), but from other unexpected occurrences - burst pipes, toddler hands, etc... Insurance covers those things, too, but the cases are inexpensive self-insurance.

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I invested in a box to store mine as well. It is not to portable, weighs 1600 lbs and has a prety good locking system on it.

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A 1600 pound box to store your camera gear??

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A 1600 pound box to store your camera gear??

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Well yeah...its called a safe. I have been thinking about one for a while, it cost me a bit more than some of my L lens and alot less than my 500mm F4L.

Very sound advice.


I just ordered Pelican 1564 to put all my gear in. With a few different day bags, I found I would leave bits a pieces in a bag and then spend time wondering where is the remote, or lens cloth and so on. Now I will be able to have it all in the one place.


Great post, thanks.

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I think the im2500 will work out well! Once I round out my lens collection for the trip, I'll do a test-pack to make sure it all fits, and post some pics.

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Ok, here's how it shapes up:


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In the Flipside 400AW is a griped 5DII with EF 24-105mm f/4<span style="color: #ff0000;"]L IS, and working clockwise from there, a PowerShot S95 in a Lowepro Napoli 20 case, EF 16-35mm f/2.8<span style="color: #ff0000;"]L II, 430EX II in it's pouch, TS-E 24mm f/3.5<span style="color: #ff0000;"]L II, EF 70-200mm f/2.8<span style="color: #ff0000;"]L IS II, and the hoods for the 16-35mm and TS-E with an EF 1.4x II Extender tucked in the center. Filters, chargers, cleaning supplies, extra flash cards, etc., are in the outside pocket. The whole backpack fits snugly into the Storm im2500 with all of the dividers and lid padding removed. I think I'm set!


On a related note, I gave the im2075 another try for keeping the camera ready for (pseudo) easy access in a downstairs closet, while maintaining protection. I got the foam version, and with the foam removed except for the lid and the bottom liner, it holds the gripped 5DII + EF 24-105mm f/4<span style="color: #ff0000;"]L IS and the 430EX II, and with the lid closed it's held tightly enough that there's no movement in the case (but not so tight I'm worried about the integrity of the body). With the easy-to-open Storm latches, it's convenient to grab and shoot (as convenient as being in a drawer, at any rate, and safer).


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John


[^o)] Where does the tripod go?


Rick

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[img]/emoticons/emotion-40.gif[/img] Where does the tripod go?

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LOL. It goes in a 'regular' carry-on (or checked, for that matter). I got a 4-section CF tripod so it will fit in a carry-on - just not that carry-on. CF-magnesium tripods are tough. Once I'm there, it goes on the back of the backpack in the tripod holder.