Discuss theCanon EOS 60D Review - tell us what you think of the Canon EOS 60D.
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Discuss theCanon EOS 60D Review - tell us what you think of the Canon EOS 60D.
Great review. I hope they bring the tilt swivel LCD to all the rest of the DSLRs, or at least the 5D3.
Nice review, I feel I know the 60D better than my wife.
Nice review indeed. It is kind of sad to see the end of the xxD series. At least for ME its the end. I am sure many users will discover the 60D and its successors and be amazed and happy with what they have to offer. I just can
I experimented with a 60D at Best Buy a few weeks ago. I think a lot of the criticism the camera received has been unjustified. It was solidly built even though it wasn
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Originally Posted by Trowski
Agreed.
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Originally Posted by Trowski
I think the marketing department wanted to increase the gap between it and the 7D. If they had kept all the 50D features, then it would have gotten close enough to lose a few of those higher-margin 7D sales.
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It's definitely not hurtful or costly - they removed it just to have another carrot to dangle from the 7D. It's that way with a lot of features. Everybody does it. Nikon added the very best autofocus to their $1500 body, whereas Canon saves it for the $4,000+ crowd. Canon puts a full 21 MP in their $2,500 body, while Nikon saves it for the $7,000+ body. Both companies are just playing with the features and prices arbitrarily. One thinks we're dumb enough to pay thousands extra for pixels (Nikon), the other thinks we're dumb enough to pay thousands extra for build/autofocus/etc. (Canon).
They need to choose some sort of method to extract the highest margin possible; otherwise the people who can afford the D3x would just buy a D300, and all that profit (and money for R&D) would be left on the table. Without that, there would be less money for the low-end cameras, so in a way, this demarkation helps everybody. But it mostly helps the people who's beliefs are the opposite of the company. For example, if you believe pixel count is hugely valuable and worth paying 3 times more for, then you should definitely shoot Canon, because they think pixels are so worthless that they'll put the highest pixel count in one of their cheapest bodies (5D2). But if you don't really care about pixels and are more interested in top-flight autofocus, FPS, pro build, weather sealing, etc., Canon is not for you. They'll charge you an arm and a leg for 1D or 1Ds series. Nikon, however, will give you all of that for much cheaper -- you just can't have the pixel count.
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Originally Posted by Daniel Browning
I wish someone told me that before I dropped all those thousands on canon lenses [:)]
Actually, I'm not that in to FPS or pro build. But I would be willing to pay through the nose for a "top flight af". Not through *both* nostrils, though. An extra $1 or $2K would be okay. But I'm not going to drop 6K on a body. I'm just not.
I think the 7D signals a small change in strategy for Canon. It used to be all or nothing -- full pro 45-point AF or the low end stuff. The 7D adds something in the middle for a very cheap price (relatively speaking). It
I have the same hope. It makes sense... the pros are still going to want the 1D autofocus, so why not kick it up a notch for us full frame mortals? Well, at least it makes sense to me :)
Makes sense - let's just hope that they don't decide us non-pros don't need AFMA on the 5DIII... [:S]
What I want to know is....
Will the swivel LCD give you a nice hand hold to grab if you accidently drop your camera. Also will it easily detach and reattach when its on the tripod and someone accidently bumps in to it and snaps it off. I am not sure this feature is such a good idea yet.
I liked the fact that the review pointed out several times that the memory cards might be a consideration with an upgrade. If I were looking at upgrading from a 50D I might miss that point.
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The screen doesn't stick out that far - if someone accidentally got close enough to bump it on a tripod-mounted camera, wouldn't they more likely already have tripped over a tripod leg and sent the whole rig crashing to the ground?
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Originally Posted by HDNitehawk
Definitely a good point, especially for xxD users who shoot RAW and have a reasonable investment in CF cards. But on the flip side (no articulating LCD reference intended), it lowers the bar as an upgrade path from an SD card-using Rebel, which is certainly consistent with the 60D being the xxxD upgrade path, with pre-60D xxD users being pushed to the 7D.
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Agh! Don't *think* that way.
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Along those lines, I came away from reading Bryan's review with the impression that the sensors from rebel--->60D----7D all would produce about the same. Again I say impression not that they would. That said when I owned my 50D only, there was no 7D. The jump up to the 5D Mark II was a huge improvement on IQ and everything else, so the question wasn't will it perform a little better, the question was "Is it worth the extra money for the jump up". I wonder how Canon's marketing is going to turn out on this one, more people upgrading or less.
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Originally Posted by HDNitehawk
Sensor size is the big differentiator. The 7D, 60D, and Rebel T2i/550D all use the same 18 MP APS-C sensor. So is it strange that a T2i would deliver sensor IQ that is similar to 7D, a camera that costs nearly 3 times as much? All that extra money just for 'features' and not IQ? Re-read Bryan's review of the 5DII - you'll note that he mentions that the IQ is about the same as - and maybe even very slightly better than - the 1DsIII, which costs nearly 3 times as much as the 5DII. Yes, all that extra money for 'features'.
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This is why I have 2 x 5D Mark II and not a 1Ds III with a cheaper backup. I would think the 5D Mark II would hurt the 1Ds Mark III sales, I know it at least cost Canon 1 sell.
This is one reason I would think that we would not see a 5D Mark III until a year or so after the 1Ds Mark IV is released. I wouldn't think it would make good marketing sense to release it earlier. (Provided Canon follows the suite with a 5D comparable to the current 1Ds without the nifty features)