Apple Aperture 3.3 - Has anyone tried?

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06-13-2012, 02:58 AM
ahab1372

Apple Aperture 3.3 - Has anyone tried?

Has anyone tried the new Aperture 3.3 already?
I haven't found reports of major issues on the interweb, any reports here in this community?

Thanks,
Arnt
06-13-2012, 03:45 AM
ahab1372

I just noticed that the update requires Mac OS X 10.7.4 I won't upgrade this computer to Lion (too old), so the new Aperture version will have to wait until I buy new hardware
06-13-2012, 12:30 PM
thekingb

I installed it yesterday. Some of the interface's look and feel changed. And there are a a few different options, like a nice button to "revert to original" for any edited photo. I haven't run into any issues yet.
06-13-2012, 09:59 PM
Keith B

I haven't found any issues. I like the Skin Tone White Balance function...a lot. You still can't ad multiple white balances (like you can color adj.) but at least in skin you can brush in or away.

They tout the Shadow/Highlights works better but I don't see it. It just has less sliders and less control over the effect. It seemed to be a "professional" feature before but now it feels like a iPhoto setting.

Revert to Original has always been there it just wan't a button. It had a little icon below the histogram on the Adjustment Inspector. But that area now has the all important iPhoto-ish Auto Enhance button.

I'm a long time Mac guy but I'm getting a little uneasy with Apple's direction lately. They are doing the same thing to Aperture they did to Final Cut. I can live with that but the OS is really getting to me. Lion is really buggy and I don't think the average user notices the issues as much as the pro user so they don't care to fix them. I think this is why Mt. Lion is only $20, they know Lion was crap. Kind of the same way Leopard was a rushed piece of crap and Snow Leopard was more the finished product.
06-13-2012, 10:12 PM
ahab1372

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Originally Posted by Keith B

I haven't found any issues. I like the Skin Tone White Balance function...a lot. You still can't ad multiple white balances (like you can color adj.) but at least in skin you can brush in or a way.

They tout the Shadow/Highlights works better but I don't see it. It just has less sliders and less control over the effect. It seemed to be "professional" feature before now it feels like a iPhoto setting.

I think you can toggle between simple view/advanced view in the previous version. Can you still bring that up? Otherwise there is always curves ...

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Originally Posted by Keith B

Revert to Original has always been there it just wan't a button. It had a little icon below the histogram on the Adjustment Inspector. But that area now has the all important Auto Enhance button.

and there was always right-click - Reset Adjustments, was good enough for me

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Originally Posted by Keith B

I'm a long time Mac guy but I'm getting a little uneasy with Apple's direction lately. They are doing the same thing to Aperture they did to Final Cut. I can live with that but the OS is really getting to me. Lion is really buggy and I don't think the average user notices the issues as much as the pro user so they don't care to fix them. I think this is why Mt. Lion is only $20, they know Lion was crap. Kind of the same way Leopard was a rushed piece of crap and Snow Leopard was more the finished product.

We will see. I skipped Leopard and it seems I will skip Lion as well.
Thanks for the feedback!

Arnt
06-13-2012, 10:15 PM
neuroanatomist

Quote:

Originally Posted by Keith B

Lion is really buggy and I don't think the average user notices the issues as much as the pro user so they don't care to fix them. I think this is why Mt. Lion is only $20, they know Lion was crap. Kind of the same way Leopard was a rushed piece of crap and Snow Leopard was more the finished product.

It's worse than most of the previous OS's for sure. For example, when I disconnect and reconnect to an external display, the views of the the multiple desktops ('Mission Control') goes wonky, and I have to go into Activity Monitor and quit the Dock application to sort it out. Mountain Lion, which I've been running on one machine since April, does seem more stable, with some nice improvements, too.
06-13-2012, 10:22 PM
Keith B

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Originally Posted by ahab1372

I think you can toggle between simple view/advanced view in the previous version. Can you still bring that up? Otherwise there is always curves ...

The Simple/Advanced is gone. Just Highlight, Shadow and Mid Contrast are left.

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Originally Posted by ahab1372

and there was always right-click - Reset Adjustments, was good enough for me

Each palette still has it's own Reset Adjustment, it is just the reset all is in a different more obvious place.

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Originally Posted by neuroanatomist

It's worse than most of the previous OS's for sure. For example, when I disconnect and reconnect to an external display, the views of the the multiple desktops ('Mission Control') goes wonky, and I have to go into Activity Monitor and quit the Dock application to sort it out. Mountain Lion, which I've been running on one machine since April, does seem more stable, with some nice improvements, too.

Glad to hear that. I have problems with most ejectables. I have to force eject often. I have issues with dragging and dropping files. Often I can't save changes to files and I've turned off the Time Machine auto save crap. Very frustrating.

I'd like to do a clean install but with out a disk it seems very time consuming.
06-13-2012, 11:14 PM
neuroanatomist

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Originally Posted by Keith B

I've turned off the Time Machine auto save crap. Very frustrating.

Never used Time Machine. I use SuperDuper! to clone to external drives. One stays at work, one at home, each partitioned into separate volumes for my two and my wife's one Mac. That way, my backups are also bootable clones.
06-14-2012, 01:37 AM
Richard Lane

I haven't upgraded yet, as I'm still running Snow Leopard. I'll probably upgrade to Mountain Lion shortly after it's released, then upgrade Aperture.

Another way to revert back to the original is to just right click on the photo and select reset all adjustments.

John (Neuro), Super Duper is great, but you should consider running time machine too, so if you ever crash in between cloned backups, you'll be covered. I don't notice any performance hit on my processing power at all (Mac Pro desktop quad core, 14GB RAM though), and if you do, then you can just pause it in the middle of a backup and resume it when your done. The updated backups also occur very quickly, since they're only incremental.

Rich
06-14-2012, 03:01 AM
neuroanatomist

Thanks, Rich. I think I'd set up Time Machine if I get a Time Capsule router at some point. As it is, our 3 Macs are all portables, so I'd have to plug them into the HDDs for a Time Machine backup anyway - and if I'm doing that, a full clone is just as easy (and takes only 15-20 min, since that's incremental as well). I run backups every couple of days for me, every couple of weeks for my wife (she's almost exclusively email/web now, since we had kids and she stepped down from her faculty position as a Professor of Anatomy & Physiology to stay home with them).
06-14-2012, 03:58 AM
Richard Lane

Time capsule would certainly be more convenient.

I'm not sure what router you have, but you may be able to just use a USB or networked ethernet hard drive and use Time Machine wirelessly via your current router?

I know it used to work with the Airport Extreme Router and I think other non-apple routers. Originally the feature wasn't there, but then after a lot of complaints, I recall that the feature you're referring to was added. Here is a link in case you're interested.

http://forums.macrumors.com/showthread.php?t=814762

Rich
06-14-2012, 04:25 AM
ahab1372

I agree with Rich, the hourly backups are very convenient and don't affect the current work much (well, on my 2007 MacBook they do if I have Aperture open). The hard drive connected to the router should work, but before you invest in a hard drive enclosure or an external drive or a new router, I would recommend a NAS. Better performance and easy to setup these days.

Arnt
07-11-2012, 07:18 AM
ahab1372

Quote:

Originally Posted by Keith B

The Simple/Advanced is gone. Just Highlight, Shadow and Mid Contrast are left.
[...]

Just found this regarding the improved(Apple)/crippled(us) Highlights & Shadows tool in Aperture 3.3. There is a ways to bring the old tool with the advanced options back:
http://www.apertureexpert.com/tips/2...-aperture.html

I had already experimented with Curves, but this is still easier.

Arnt
07-13-2012, 07:31 PM
Keith B

Quote:

Originally Posted by ahab1372

Just found this regarding the improved(Apple)/crippled(us) Highlights & Shadows tool in Aperture 3.3. There is a ways to bring the old tool with the advanced options back:
http://www.apertureexpert.com/tips/2...-aperture.html

I had already experimented with Curves, but this is still easier.

Arnt

Thanks for info. I read the part where the author says he couldn't do a better job. In all honesty I try to stay away from that pallet. It means I've jacked up a shot. I have used to fix images where my strobes didn't fire and the model nailed a pose though.

I recently shot an event that TONS of purple uplighting and Aperture for some unknown reason can NOT handle purple especially when it bleeds out from a hot spot. I had 700 shots and Aperture was destroying them all.

Out of desperation I downloaded the Lightroom 4.1 trial and I hate to say it but it did a great job on the purple and just about everything else. The UI is as clanky and goofy looking as could be but the Adobe RAW engine has come a long way in 4 years.

I really hate to say this but I think I may invest the $150 in LR as I really in and foresee Apple throwing in the towel on pro apps. I expect Aperture and iPhoto to merge. Maybe behind the scenes this is Apple throwing a bone back or playing nice with Adobe again.