Agree that is a potential issue too.
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twitch, half a blink in my right eye, clearing of my throat for no reason, stand up pace around the living room, quick roll of the head and shoulders.... don't, no don't reach for the laptop.... move away from the cell phone... swallow....
The GAS disease is flaring up. Just got a decent check from my last client engagement before becoming "re-employed" in a W-2 (long story and a great lesson.... for others).
Thinking of donating/selling the 1dx mk1, converting the 5d3 to full spectrum and..... R5, control and drop in filter rings, with a couple of lenses - the 135 t/s come to mind along w/ the 600/800 f11.
twitch, fidget, twitch.
Brant can tell you of the time I rented a Sony APC that was either 11 or 12 fps mirrorless and the 1dx was along too. The difference was pretty astounding on the sound levels. We both busted out laughing when the 1dx fired off and he couldn't here me w/ the Sony.
Going to be looong august to wait my R6. Just made deal with it.....and next problem will be...600mm or 800mm :D
This is a really good review. And the camera had no problem maintaining 12 fps with BIFs, which is very nice to see.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YT5GeNH3Ip0
Very positive review. Almost gushing praise.
I have a 1DX III loaner coming when I get back to NH. I have never played with a 1D body, so I am excited by that. But everything I am seeing is very positive for the R5 and R6.
One running theme I am seeing is just how good the 20 MP sensor is on the R6. Which it should be, considering it is shared with the 1DX3. It is difficult to appreciate the resolution gain going to the R5 on you tube. Gordon did have some nice displays.
Looks like some good options.
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I was very impressed on those high iso jpg crops. Looked that r6 with 102400 was same than r5 51200. Nightime photo me is very excited to get my r6 now.
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I too was impressed with the high iso performance.
It was better than I expected .... maybe the f/11 telephoto lenses make more sense than I originally thought:confused:
Managed to get decent deal for my R6. 1on1 trade with my 5d4 and couple lenses =) Now just hope canon delivers enough of them to get one right away.
Just to make the "R" system even more tempting:
https://www.the-digital-picture.com/...spx?News=35020
I am very impressed with all my breakthrough filters. I suspect these are excellent and if I had an R, or, if I get an R, I will likely get a couple of these.
Ha...I am just wondering how much I am going to love it. I do have to give it back, but before making any decisions involving this much money, I wanted to get it in my hands.
Congrats. I think this first wave of distribution is going to be something like a lottery.
Aaand since i got so good deal on the R6 just ordered myself the RF800mm to finally go back to my photographing root aka birds and animals. So might actually end up takin pictures daytime :cool:
Ha...excellent
As for reviews, here is a good one, still video centric. Primarily about video, until 19:50, where he just calls them excellent cameras for stills and then launches in who he thinks these cameras are for, and really, it is many, many people..
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qDXPiu3wpBs
After all this, is anyone surprised Canon punched out an amazing stills camera(s) that are photos first and video second? After all, Canon still has their cinema lineup that are video first.
All the issues I read about are video based. Really, these are perfect for how a shoot. 99% stills with the occasional video, but my videos are 1080, so, none of this affects how I shoot.
Photons to photos has the R5 DR. I assume the R6 is the same as the 1DX III. Then, there is a bit of a loss at low ISO using the Electronic Shutter and, of course as you are using less of the sensor, APS-C.
The hitch at ISO 400 is interesting. Previously I have only seen that on Sony sensors and may implies Canon now has "dual base ISO" as Sony has claimed. Just watching a video on it, it gets down to having a second set of circuitry for adding analog gain, one optimized for low light (higher ISO) and a second optimized for more light (low ISO). Thus, you get a shift, as you see with the R5, at the point where the circuitry shifts. Previously, as I understand it, Canon would apply analog gain to whole stops and then push/pull digitally to the 1/3 stops creating a wavy effect (5DIII here to show the effect). The R5 is the first time I have seen this dual base ISO set up in a canon sensor. Cool :cool:
And....the R5 at ISO 100 now tops the Sony A7RIII/IV. I am not going to suddenly flip and say DR is the only thing in the world that matters, but, you know...Canon now has bragging rights..for now.
This is quite interesting review also about the 600mm and 800mm. (jared polin pabbling warning for weak heart =) )
Aand here is the link https://youtu.be/jZMou9ei2yY
I was impressed with the IQ of the mid day bird pics. The detail of the eye of the birds was adequate.
The rest was not a surprise, the lens usefulness is going to be light limited. The Cheetah picture looked to me to be close to the breaking point and it was just shaded mid day.
Nice review here by John Marriott (who also lives in Canmore, and leads photo tours which I've been on)
https://wildernessprints.blog/2020/0...ck4gozOUS9R-1Q
Pretty glowing review all around!!
John is a superb wildlife photographer and I've known him for several years. The big game changers for him are the light weight and quietness of the R5, because he spends a lot of time on foot. He's used to using the toggle for moving the focus point around, and he doesn't use back-button focus. I for one just can't stand the toggle, and I love using back-button focus. So the 1DX III with the trackpad AF-ON button is the biggest game changer for me personally. If they ever incorporate that into a R5 Mark II, I would be all over it. Till then I will keep the lowly 1DX III and put up with it somehow :p. I don't mind the weight or the "low" MP count. If you really need high-quality files for big printing, the Topaz software (DeNoise and Sharpen) do a fantastic job and turn your images into something that you can pixel-peep with great satisfaction.
I should add, he isn't into birds at all, hence nothing on that subject. But other reviewers have covered that quite well already.
That's a good observation --- it looks like a gimbal is not possible with this lens. But I suppose you could use a rail and clamp setup to make it work from a camera bracket..? Something like this: https://www.reallyrightstuff.com/192...-192-FAS-Clamp
It does look like you could attach a plate or foot to the lens but then without a collar you could not rotate the camera to adjust for leveling or to take a vertical image.
Perhaps the designers intended for this to be a hand held lens primarily but at f/11 I would think some slower shutter speeds will come into play which would need a tripod or is the IBIS so good as to eliminate the need?
Also for wildlife (especially birds) using a tripod for long sessions in a blind is a necessity.
Should be able to use it on gimbal since it has the spot on bottom, where you can attach plate https://youtu.be/EZ9y5YCHnn8?t=246
https://www.benroeu.com/products/benro-gh5c.aspx example, arent't you able to rotate vertically also since it rotates horisontally? Just use the plate which comes with gimbal or am i understanding you wrong?
Even thouhg, R6+800mm is so light set that you could use this also if i am not mistaken:
https://www.acratech.net/gp-ball-hea...d-pan-feature/
I am comparing it to a lens that has a typical tripod collar in which case you can loosen the collar and easily rotate the camera without moving the ballhead or gimbal.
Looking at the owners manual on these f/11 lenses they have a mounting site for a plate but no collar like other telephoto lenses:
https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/i...svjeQ&usqp=CAU
https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/i...wnNdQ&usqp=CAU
Ahh ok, now i understand what you mean....never used collar like that so that made me wondering :D
This is a great photo-only review of the R6: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O6E6aGswzcE
Of note, BIFs work great, especially with a f/4 or better lens.
The biggest new finding is that the frame rate is reduced to 9 fps when the battery charge drops below 60%, and 7 fps at some point below that. This reduction happens with the R5 as well. For someone like me who is a big blaster, this is a bit of a deal breaker. I love my fast frame rates and I will lean hard on the shutter button to get as many shots as possible when there's action. I suppose a battery grip would help lengthen the time you can get the peak 12 fps. But now that I've had the taste of 16 fps from my 1DX3, even 12 fps is a bit pedestrian (spoiled, I am).
Jonathan, you need to get this hooked on your tripod and then connect it to r5/6 with the dummy battery and inverter :D https://www.astroshop.eu/battery-pac...-159wh/p,59629
Hi everyone, I’ve never been this excited about a new camera since the introduction of the original 1D X. The R5 might reignite my interest in photography lol . I’m curious on the AF tracking performance of EF lenses with the R5. I’m still using the original 500 f/4 IS.
Hmmm...from the manual:
Attachment 2865
coupled with:
Attachment 2866
I am not sure why "smooth" is giving more shots than "Power saving"....but if FPS drops below 60%, you are 150-200 shots in if using one battery and then you go from 12 to 9.2 fps. I get for some, that is likely a problem. For me, I am wondering about when you drop to 7 fps, because that is what I have now, and I'd like more from my next camera. But, certainly, you can see the issue for photographers that need the high fps. It is no 16 fps.
Okay that's very interesting stuff! I'm thinking that the battery life info must be a typo --- the columns are probably reversed. Frame rate will slow down in my 1DX3 for all the factors listed above, with the big exception of battery level. And I do love my fast frame rate. There have been so many occasions where I've fired a burst with wildlife, and 1 shot in a sequence will be a great trophy while the immediately adjacent ones are merely okay. Things happen quickly and it's really nice having something that can keep up. Ditto with BIFs, because with wing movement there are good poses and there are great poses.
And Bryan's reviews are up: R5 and R6.
Per usual, where other reviewers tend to skew towards what is wrong, my impression of Bryan's reviews provide an overall experience of what you should expect. And, these reviews indicate these are two very nice, feature laden cameras. Just stopping to look at the whole picture, compared to their predecessors (6D II, 5DIV, and/or EOS R), these are improvements in pretty much every way:
- It looks like we have a solid 1/3 to 1/2 stop improvement in sensor performance (I was not expecting this)
- The R5 seems to have incorporated dual base ISO (not expecting this)
- There seems to be an improvement in sharpness beyond megapixel count. The new AA filters seem to really be nice in this regard. I was not expecting this, but perhaps I should have been as each generation seems a bit better.
- Faster AF using conventional methods
- New eye (people and animal) AF that people seem nuts about (it is cool on my M6 II, which is people only)
- The fps does slow with battery life, but even when slowed it is 40-100% faster than its predecessors and only slower than the 1D line
- Buffer. These cameras have killer buffers. Even at 20 fps, you have 5+ seconds of continuous shooting and more like 20 seconds with mechanical shutters. No, this is not 1Dx III territory, but so much better than my 2 second limit now.
- CRAW, for those like me that do not like the idea of massive files, seems to provide a very nice alternative to uncompressed RAW. Looks like CRAW is 40-46% of the RAW file size
- Video specs are what they are, but I shoot video for family events in 1080 30fps to 60 fps, so none of the over heating issues effect how I use video
- Battery, I do not like the CIPA rated numbers, but reading Bryan's review is consistent with my M6II use. You typically get double or more of the rated values. Bryan even cited his own use with over 2,000 images taken of birds one morning and over 5,000 taken of high FPS testing and both had battery life remaining. On my Yellowstone trip I just got back from, I charged my M6 II battery once, took over 1,000 shots. If anything, I have developed an issue with the 5DIV battery as it drains while not in use.
- EVFs seem better than expected, especially on the R5. Higher refresh rate and pixel count seem to provide a nice experience. Perhaps a bit of an issue with blackout during high fps, but I have not decided if this is a true issue or a nit pick.
- IBIS is cool and all, but I have very much become a believer over the years in faster shutter speeds for crisper images. And I have yet to see anyone do the test I would want which is hand-held 2 sec exposure IBIS+lens compared to tripod. Granted, I tend to like smoothed out water of 30+ second exposures, so IBIS is a "nice" feature to me. I get it for others.
Put all that together and, wow, these are two very nice upgrades. I am happy to have these two cameras as future options.
Fortunately or unfortunately, I do not need to upgrade at this moment. I am back from my trip. I can think of about 4 moments where having higher FPS or buffer would have been helpful. It isn't like I didn't get shots I am very happy with. Per usual, better decision making on my behalf was a much bigger issue than my gear. However, Jonathan's point is well taken, sometimes the difference between a good and great image is a split second and higher buffer and more fps really help there. If I can more often put myself in those situations, I see the justification for higher fps/buffer. I am also good with the IQ out of my 5DIV for landscapes. In fact, I am a bit curious how the numerical quantified IQ improvements will really translate. But, honestly, after all of this, if I was coming in cold and did not already have gear, I would probably be getting one of these cameras.
AF tracking works well with EF lenses and an adapter:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=okeedXcuCjI
Brant - excellent summary. You're right in every respect. If/when I get the R5 I will probably opt for the battery grip, as much for the vertical shooting convenience as for the extra power. It should pretty much eliminate the frame rate reduction due to battery drainage in most daily use.
Having options like the R5 and the 1DX3 is like being able to choose between a Ferrari and a Lamborghini. You can't really be critical of either. For me I'm going to stick with the 1DX3 at least until a R5 Mark II comes out (in four years' time, I would guess). I think we're going to see even bigger things to come in terms of frame rate and hopefully the same AF-ON trackpad that is on the 1DX3.