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    Looking forward to TDP review of 6D!

    TDP could be the first real review. There are no others out there yet.
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    I'm confused by the 6D, I wonder what market its after. It has a SD card slot so it's not after pro/semipro users. Wouldn't you be better off with a 5D III?

    I hope Bryan will be able to shed some light on this body, because Canon have confused me (OK thats not difficult).
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    Quote Originally Posted by Raid View Post
    I'm confused by the 6D, I wonder what market its after. It has a SD card slot so it's not after pro/semipro users. Wouldn't you be better off with a 5D III?
    I hope Bryan will be able to shed some light on this body, because Canon have confused me (OK thats not difficult).
    Id say that if you can afford the 5D3, then get a 5D3. The reason the 6D confuses me is that it's practically identical to the 5D mk2, just newer, smaller, lighter, SD-card, etc. But then it's launching a few $hundred above what the 5D2 costs new.
    So i'm definitely interested in a TDP review, especially Bryan's noise/cloth patches which show noise vs detail (most other places like DXO just show noise as an absolute).
    There's gotta be something that makes it worth the difference from the 5D2, i don't think it's the AF, maybe it's a lot more sealed than the 5D2, maybe it's the wifi/gps for those who might use it. The only thing that would make it worth more to me would be the IQ (and it'd have to be at least 5D3-level IQ to justify cutting all those other features for the price).
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    Looking forward to TDP review of 6D!

    What may differentiate the 6D from the 5DII is simply availability. Canon discontinues the 5DII once the 6D is widely available, new 5DII stock dries up, and anyone in the market for a new Canon FF has the 6D, 5DIII, and 1D X from which to choose.

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    In the 6D review stub here, there is a Canon provided chart on improvements over the 5DmkII, including burst rate, ISO, shutter lag, focus points, metering, AF sensitivity, and bulk/weight. That right there can justify the expense over the 5D2.

    I'm expecting a similar sensor to the 5D3, and 1DX, so better high ISO than than a 5D2. Everyone's pet peeve about the 5D2 was autofocus, and I'm expecting that to be improved too. I'm very curious about it's servo performance. Does Canon think the viewfinder, extra resolution, extra burst rate and extra focus points are enough to keep the pros from getting a 6D, or will they cripple it somehow?

    I'm hoping this camera kicks ass, nobody realizes it, and Canon drops the price quickly. A man can dream, can't he?

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    There's definitely pluses over the 5D2.

    -- Size, some maybe argue they want the bigger body but DSLRs are big as it is and the smaller size of 6D can be a plus for some. Plus the body still has a substantial portion that is magnesium alloy.
    -- SD card is actually a plus for non-7D upgraders because we already have SD cards. CF cards would be another investment.
    -- Modern design
    -- Reported low light capability
    -- Improved ISO performance that appears equal to 5D3.
    -- Silent shutter option
    -- Some may have no use for WIFI, GPS but I'm sure many people will take advantage of those

    There's a large portion of people who flat out just can't afford a 5D Mark III. Once the 6D price is reduced to $1500 - $1750 I think it will open possibilities to more people. I know I couldn't look my wife in the face if I dropped $3,000 on a 5D3.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dave Throgmartin View Post
    There's definitely pluses over the 5D2.
    -- SD card is actually a plus for non-7D upgraders because we already have SD cards. CF cards would be another investment.
    -- Some may have no use for WIFI, GPS but I'm sure many people will take advantage of those

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    When I thought about the SD card slot, I admit it was from my point of view being a CF card user. The idea that this is designed to be an upgrade for xxD & xxxD users is obvious when you think about it.

    I think the WiFi & GPS will be standard on all cameras soon. Canon may be using this body to test how well it works before installing it in the 1D body. Once you use Geotagging, you will wonder how you ever did without it.

    Well as for WiFi, a few years ago I watched a wedding photo shoot (Pro). It was in a busy inner city lane way, two shooters with the boss sitting at a laptop, in a Café watching the shoot. The boss would control the shooters and the setup via a guy who run between the shooter and the boss. As each set of shots are taken the CF cards are swapped and taken back to the boss on the laptop. Each image was studied in great detail before adjusting the shot or moving on to the next setup.

    With WiFi, images are sent to the laptop as they are shot. I think WiFi, in the long term, is aimed at the pro market.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Raid View Post

    Once you use Geotagging, you will wonder how you ever did without it.
    How so? What does it do for you? I understand it marks location in the EXIF, but what is the advantage in that for the average photog? I know where my shots were taken. I suppose you could use the geotagging data in the EXIF to store and sort images, but for most folks I don't think they get that fine grained. For instance, I have folders called London or Vegas and then they're broken down into Day One, Day Two, etc. Easy enough to do without geotagging. I can see where geotagging would be handy for posting to Google maps or some such thing, but otherwise I'm not too clear on what other advantages there are in using it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by M_Six View Post
    How so? What does it do for you? I understand it marks location in the EXIF, but what is the advantage in that for the average photog? I know where my shots were taken. I suppose you could use the geotagging data in the EXIF to store and sort images, but for most folks I don't think they get that fine grained. For instance, I have folders called London or Vegas and then they're broken down into Day One, Day Two, etc. Easy enough to do without geotagging. I can see where geotagging would be handy for posting to Google maps or some such thing, but otherwise I'm not too clear on what other advantages there are in using it.
    I got a GPS fob for my 1DX, and I have to say, I really like it. With Lightroom 4, you can jump to the Map page and see exactly where the shots were taken. It is quite handy for trips. However I agree that you can easily live without it, and make do with other means. Mostly it is just a fun gadget, and it appeals to the geek in me who likes to see that kind of information. I like how it also tells you the elevation and compass direction of the shot. Plus it automatically calibrates your camera clock (if you like it to be spot-on). You can set the update frequency to something reasonable like every 15 seconds, so it doesn't drain the battery.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jonathan Huyer View Post
    I got a GPS fob for my 1DX, and I have to say, I really like it. With Lightroom 4, you can jump to the Map page and see exactly where the shots were taken. It is quite handy for trips. However I agree that you can easily live without it, and make do with other means. Mostly it is just a fun gadget, and it appeals to the geek in me who likes to see that kind of information. I like how it also tells you the elevation and compass direction of the shot. Plus it automatically calibrates your camera clock (if you like it to be spot-on). You can set the update frequency to something reasonable like every 15 seconds, so it doesn't drain the battery.
    When I do field work I take a lot of photos. I have an extra notebook that I write down where photos were taken. The built in GPS would be quite nice for that...i.e., one less notebook to carry.
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