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    To 15-85mm IS or not?

    <p style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt;" class="MsoNormal"]<span style="font-size: x-small; font-family: Arial;"]Greetings everyone.<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"] I&rsquo;m new to this board and DSLR in general.
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    <p style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt;" class="MsoNormal"]<span style="font-size: x-small; font-family: Arial;"]My question is that is the 15-85mm a good lens for video?<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"] My setup is:
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    <p style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt;" class="MsoNormal"]<span style="font-size: x-small; font-family: Arial;"]T2i + kit 18-55mm
    <p style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt;" class="MsoNormal"]<span style="font-size: x-small; font-family: Arial;"]50mm f1.8 (for indoor portraits)
    <p style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt;" class="MsoNormal"]<span style="font-size: x-small; font-family: Arial;"]70-200mm f2.8 IS (for kids sport and outdoor portraits)
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    <p style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt;" class="MsoNormal"]<span style="font-size: x-small; font-family: Arial;"]What piqued my interest was the current rebate on 15-85mm which makes it more palatable but I have to make the decision before July 10, 2010.
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    <p style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt;" class="MsoNormal"]<span style="font-size: x-small; font-family: Arial;"]I am tired of the kit 18-55mm and would like something better.<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"] Of course the 17-55mm has been considered but with the current rebate, I think the 15-85 is more versatile and has a higher price/performance ratio. <span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"]The only thing holding me back is its kit lens type aperture.
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    <p style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt;" class="MsoNormal"]<span style="font-size: x-small; font-family: Arial;"]So would the 15-85 be a good travel lens so that I can the bulkier 70-200 at home option? <span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"]How would it do in video especially in lower light indoor situation? <span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"]Thanks.

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    Re: To 15-85mm IS or not?



    Hello, and welcome to the TDP Forums!


    The focal length range of the 15-85mm is quite nice. IQ is good from a sharpness standpoint, less so from a distortion standpoint (&gt;3% barrel distortion at 15mm), but that's normal for a lens with a &gt;5x zoom range.


    Quote Originally Posted by darklord
    <span style="font-size:x-small;font-family:Arial;"]The only thing holding me back is its kit lens type aperture.<span style="font-family: Arial; font-size: x-small;"]...How would it do in video especially in lower light indoor situation?

    A very reasonable concern - the 15-85mm does well outdoors. Indoors, with the variable and slow aperture, it does poorly. If you're ok with the speed (meaning aperture) of your kit lens, you'll be fine with the 15-85mm and see significantly improved optics. But if you find the narrow apertures of the kit lens to be a problem, it will be just as much of a problem with the 15-85mm.


    Quote Originally Posted by darklord
    I think the 15-85 is more versatile and has a higher price/performance ratio.

    I'll leave you with the thoughts of a few others on that issue:


    Quote Originally Posted by Klaus of photozone.de
    Overall we'd say that the lens is slightly over-priced regarding its performance but eventually the street prices will come down to more sane levels.

    Quote Originally Posted by Roger of lensrentals.com
    I considered it badly overpriced for what it is...Truth is if it was a $450 lens we&rsquo;d be singing its praises. As a $700 lens I find myself underwhelmed.

    I think the EF-S 17-55mm f/2.8 would be a much better lens for your purposes. IMO, it's the best general purpose zoom for a 1.6x crop body. If your experience with the kit lens suggests that you don't need the 18-24mm range, the EF 24-105mm f/4L IS would be another one to consider.

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    Re: To 15-85mm IS or not?



    Quote Originally Posted by neuroanatomist


    A very reasonable concern - the 15-85mm does well outdoors. Indoors, with the variable and slow aperture, it does poorly. If you're ok with the speed (meaning aperture) of your kit lens, you'll be fine with the 15-85mm and see significantly improved optics. But if you find the narrow apertures of the kit lens to be a problem, it will be just as much of a problem with the 15-85mm.
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    Specifically in indoor situation both at 50mm, would the 15-85mm give me better video result than the much cheaper50mm f/1.8?


    Thanks

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    Re: To 15-85mm IS or not?



    Quote Originally Posted by darklord
    Specifically in indoor situation both at 50mm, would the 15-85mm give me better video result than the much cheaper50mm f/1.8?

    Define better. []


    It depends on what/how you are shooting. The 50/1.8 @ f/1.8 lets in 8 times as much light as the 15-85mm @ 50mm f/5 (it's max aperture at that focal length) - of course, at f/1.8 the depth of field will be quite thin. The 15-85mm has IS, but if you're shooting from a tripod (a very good idea with video), IS won't help. If you're on a tripod, and have enough light to set the 50mm f/1.8 to f/5 (where it's very sharp), the 15-85mm won't be significantly better (would possibly be worse, in fact). But if you have to go to something like ISO 1600 or 3200 to use f/5 with your lighting, that's not 'better' and a faster lens would be a definite advantage. If you're going to handhold, IS will be a big benefit. Those are the reasons I recommend the 17-55mm - you get the best of all worlds (fast, IS, great IQ even wide open). But it's not a cheap lens...

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    Re: To 15-85mm IS or not?



    Quote Originally Posted by neuroanatomist


    If you're going to handhold, IS will be a big benefit.



    One experience I made "the hard way": If you shoot video using the internal microphone, the noise made by the IS will likely be a problem.


    Cheers, Colin

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    Thanks, guys. I'll pass up on the 15-85mm for now.





    Basically, the 15-85 is a good outdoor but not indoor lens. Since, I already have the 70-200mm for outdoor portraits, I'll just have to bust out the kit 18-55mm for some occasional wide shots. And in indoor, I'll rely on the 50mm f/1.8 for both video and photo which the 15-85mm couldn't do very well anyway because of low light. To me, it's the people and not the scenery that's most valuable to my photography right now so this setup will work.

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