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    Canon EF 28-135mm f4L IS USM possible?



    I read in a forum that this lens was being trialled andit had a 82mm filter. I know there are a lot of technical experts on this site, can anyone guess how big the lens would be and how probable a rumour like that would be?


    Could it be Canon's answer to the Nikon, 24-120 that has just been released?


    Appreciate your opinions.


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    Re: Canon EF 28-135mm f4L IS USM possible?



    To believe in to such a rumor would mean that I would have to debate with myself if I would need such a lens. After all collecting L lens becomes a habit.


    But....wouldn

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    Quote Originally Posted by Steve U
    can anyone guess how big the lens would be

    My guess would be about the same as the 24-105 f/4 L.


    Quote Originally Posted by Steve U
    how probable a rumour like that would be?

    Not very probable. The only lenses that Canon makes that are constant aperture are "L" , the non-L are always variable aperture. Modern normal "L" zooms always start at 24mm, the non-L normal zooms always start at 28mm. A 24-135 f/4 L I could believe, but it would be too similar to the existing 24-105 to keep both going, so it would have to be a replacement.
    • I could believe a 28-135 f/3.5-5.6 to replace the existing one.
    • I could believe a 24-135 f/4 L replacing the existing 24-105.
    • I highly doubt 28-135 f/4



    Don't take word for it, of course -- I've been very bad at guessing new Canon lenses in the past (although not as wrong as the rumors sites -- almost *anyone* does a better job guessing than they do).


    Personally, what I'd like to see is a 14-24 f/2.8 L IS and 24-70 f/2.8 L IS, both with quality that matches the new 70-200 f/2.8 II L IS.

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    Re: Canon EF 28-135mm f4L IS USM possible?



    Just found this, thoughtI would throw it our there, with the talk going on about lens revisions because of 25mp+ sensors coming next year.


    From Photo.net

    <span style="font-weight: normal;"]Apparently Canon is testing a new <strong class="highlight"]28-135
    Lens. This is a direct quote I received via email.[/b]



    <blockquote>


    Canon is currently performing research, prototyping &amp; testing new <strong class="highlight"]28-135[/b]mm F4 L IS; less wide angle and more telephoto. Engineering says it would require 2 extra LD glass elements; shifting price to an additional $800 CAD of the original <strong class="highlight"]28-135[/b]mm MSRP. such a lens would cost and estimated $1549 MSRP. It is also Canons next generation Image Stabilization will be released; called &ldquo;IS2&Prime;, where the two additional long magnets are present, where larger float distance of separation between groups; yielding up to now 5 stops of effective stabilization; both in longitudinal and lateral vibrations will be dampened. IS2 will consume approximately 20% battery power.
    </blockquote>



    • Mount: EF

    • Focal length 28 &ndash; 135 mm IS2 II

    • Maximum aperture F4.0 w/ IS

    • Minimum aperture F22

    • Lens construction 21 elements in 14 groups

    • Diaphragm blades 8

    • Image stabilizer 4-stops tested

    • AF actuator Ring USM (full-time manual focus built-in)

    • Filter diameter 82 mm

    • Dimensions (dia x len) 88.5 x 112 mm

    • Weight 730g EST.







    Source: http://photo.net/equipment/canon/24-105/



    If sensors get up around 28mp there will be a need for a few lens upgrades.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Steve U
    If sensors get up around 28mp there will be a need for a few lens upgrades.

    21 MP to 28 MP may sound like a big jump, but it's only 33% increase in pixel count and 15% increase in linear resolution. Think of it like going from 4.2 MP to 5.6 MP -- not that different, right?


    I'd like to see 100 MP or so, to get more resolution out of existing lenses.

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    Re: Canon EF 28-135mm f4L IS USM possible?



    Quote Originally Posted by Daniel Browning


    Quote Originally Posted by Steve U
    If sensors get up around 28mp there will be a need for a few lens upgrades.

    21 MP to 28 MP may sound like a big jump, but it's only 33% increase in pixel count and 15% increase in linear resolution. Think of it like going from 4.2 MP to 5.6 MP -- not that different, right?


    I'd like to see 100 MP or so, to get more resolution out of existing lenses.
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    Crikey Daniel,I won't besubmitting any self portraits if it gets up to 100MP.


    I like myself with a blurry, rough around the edges fetching mystique and I'm lucky that my skill level delivers like that for me.








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    Re: Canon EF 28-135mm f4L IS USM possible?



    Stuff on Canon Rumors can be fun to discuss...but almost all of it is completely bogus (although I give the guy props for re-interpreting his previous predictions in light of what Canon actually does, in such a way that he was right instead of way off base!).


    Here's my take (again):



    <div class="post"]
    <div id="msg_2576" class="inner"]How can it be the 28-135mm f/4L IS II when there's not a Mk I version of that lens? It's the same reason all the clowns who email that they've seen the 24-70mm f/2.8L IS II are bogus - there is not an IS version of that lens, so if they add IS it would be not be a MkII.</div>
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    <div class="inner"]I don't get the 82mm filter size. </div>
    <div class="inner"]</div>
    <div class="inner"]Also, what the heck is, "both in longitudinal and lateral vibrations will be dampened." IS damps<span class="bbc_u"]angularvibrations. Lateral vibrations are currently damped only by the new Hybrid IS. Longitudinal vibrations would mean forward-back motion of the camera; AI Servo AF helps correct for that, but for IS to perform a similar correction it would actually have to move the focusing groups - something that seems unlikely. And why does the rumor state that this new 'IS2' provides 5 stops of stabilization, then list the specs as, "Image stabilizer 4-stops tested"? </div>
    <div class="inner"]</div>
    <div class="inner"]Given that the vast majority of Canon bodies sold are 1.6x crop, I don't see them taking anything from the wide end of a walkaround zoom.

    I declare shenanigans! [:P]

    Of course, the original post on photo.net beat me to the declaration - look at the last line, "**all of the above statements are<del>mearly</del>merely speculation and rumors."</div>
    </div>



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    Quote Originally Posted by Steve U
    I like myself with a blurry, rough around the edges fetching mystique and I'm lucky that my skill level delivers like that for me.

    I like your sense of humor!


    Quote Originally Posted by neuroanatomist
    I declare shenanigans!
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    Excellent deconstruction, John.

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    Re: Canon EF 28-135mm f4L IS USM possible?



    Quote Originally Posted by neuroanatomist



    <div class="post"]
    <div class="inner" id="msg_2576"]How can it be the 28-135mm f/4L IS II when there's not a Mk I version of that lens? It's the same reason all the clowns who email that they've seen the 24-70mm f/2.8L IS II are bogus - there is not an IS version of that lens, so if they add IS it would be not be a MkII.</div>
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    <div class="inner"]I don't get the 82mm filter size. </div>
    <div class="inner"]</div>
    <div class="inner"]Also, what the heck is, "both in longitudinal and lateral vibrations will be dampened." IS damps<span class="bbc_u"]angularvibrations. Lateral vibrations are currently damped only by the new Hybrid IS. Longitudinal vibrations would mean forward-back motion of the camera; AI Servo AF helps correct for that, but for IS to perform a similar correction it would actually have to move the focusing groups - something that seems unlikely. And why does the rumor state that this new 'IS2' provides 5 stops of stabilization, then list the specs as, "Image stabilizer 4-stops tested"? </div>
    <div class="inner"]</div>
    <div class="inner"]Given that the vast majority of Canon bodies sold are 1.6x crop, I don't see them taking anything from the wide end of a walkaround zoom.

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    A clinical disseection, you sir are a mythbuster.


    Quote Originally Posted by neuroanatomist
    I declare shenanigans! [img]/emoticons/emotion-4.gif[/img]

    And to work the "shenanigans" into any reply is very creative. I also noted there was no red L attached to the "Rumor lens" that honor must only go to lenses that can be viewed on the Canon website.


    Oh well, it did seem like a good partner for my 5Dmk3 and 100-400mm 4-5.6IS ll combo, guess I'll just put that back into the cupboard too.[*-)]


    Should probably go and take some photos.


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    Re: Canon EF 28-135mm f4L IS USM possible?



    Quote Originally Posted by Daniel Browning


    The only lenses that Canon makes that are constant aperture are "L" ,
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    With the exception of the EF-S 17-55mm f/2.8 IS USM


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