Canon EOS-1D MARK-IV Digital SLR Camera - Refurbished - $4,199.00

**Mark Elberson** · 09-03-2010, 05:50 PM

Canon EOS-1D MARK-IV Digital SLR Camera - Refurbished - $4,199.00

~ 9% off is not too shabby!

**Iguide** · 09-03-2010, 07:23 PM

The account has been created and the savings have begun. So some time in the next 123yrs it will come to fruition. If I live that long.[

] Oh I'm sure I will!

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**scalesusa** · 09-03-2010, 08:14 PM

The price for new ones has been running $4500 at our local camera store here in Spokane. (I haven't checked for a few weeks)

Their web site lists full price with a number to call for "latest pricing". Canon does not let them advertise a discounted price.

Saving $300 by getting a refurb doesn't appeal to me.

http://www.onecall.com/product/Canon/EOS-1D-Mark-IV-Body-Only/Digital-SLR/_/R-101214

Try calling some of the large camera stores close to you,and see if they will deal on a new one. It couldn't hurt to try.

**Iguide** · 09-03-2010, 10:41 PM

Originally Posted by scalesusa

Saving $300 by getting a refurbish doesn't appeal to me.

[url="http://www.onecall.com/product/Canon/EOS-1D-Mark-IV-Body-Only/Digital-SLR/_/R-101214]http://www.onecall.com/product/Canon/EOS-1D-Mark-IV-Body-Only/Digital-SLR/_/R-101214[/url]

Try calling some of the large camera stores close to you,and see if they will deal on a new one. It couldn't hurt to try.
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Good Day All:

That is a very understandable position. If I may I would like to point out an alternative to consider. I have a friend that works for Harman Kardon which make's high fidelity listening for your home and vehicle. A few years back my son wanted a CD burner/player and as he looked on line he found out that most of the 1st rate listed ones were a fair piece beyond his budget, but he did not give up. Eventually he came across the HK refurbished site where the burner/player was priced so he could afford it but it was labeled "Refurbished". Both of us kind of reacted the way <span style="font-size: 9pt; font-family: 'Bookman Old Style'; font-weight: normal;"]scalesusa did. I then thought of calling my collage buddy that works there to ask him about it. What he told me was interesting, he told me that when a unit is returned and is graded as being of refurbish quality that the company actually goes over the unit completely by hand and checks and replaces any items that are found not to be operating anything less than optimally. He went on to say that there is actually a greater effort to make sure these units are going to operate at 100% of their expected capacity and we should have no qualms about purchasing the burner/player. Well my son has had that unit for more than 12 yrs now and never had a problem. Over the years we have purchased other refurbished product from HK and even from Canon with no problems at all. Does that mean that all refurbished items will operate trouble free? Of course not! When those come back they, HK, will often replace them with a new unit to try and make things right for the customer.

Does Canon operate with the same zeal as HK? I don't know, however I can say that I have bought refurbished products from Canon and not had a problem at all. I'm sure that there are some that are and end up coming back to Canon again as that would just be the law of averages. We just have not had any problems and that is the other side of the coin.

Godspeed

Wayne

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**Mark Elberson** · 09-04-2010, 01:10 PM

Originally Posted by Iguide

...he told me that when a unit is returned and is graded as being of refurbish quality that the company actually goes over the unit completely by hand and checks and replaces any items that are found not to be operating anything less than optimally. He went on to say that there is actually a greater effort to make sure these units are going to operate at 100% of their expected capacity and we should have no qualms about purchasing...

Wayne, I understand that Canon's refurbished goods are similar in nature and it's why, even at the same price point, I would give preference to the refurbished unit. In addition, Adorama warrants their refurbished gear for a full year as opposed to the 90 day warranty that they used to offer.

EDIT:

Refurbished items I have purchased from Adorama with great success:

Canon EOS 5D Mark II Digital SLR Camera
Canon EF 100mm f/2.8 USM Macro Lens
Canon Speedlite 430EX Flash

**scalesusa** · 09-08-2010, 01:45 AM

All that may be true, but when you eventually go to sell the camera, a used refurbished model is worth much less, maybe more than $300 less, so in the total life cycle, it can cost more.

I've also heard of buyers getting refurb cameras with intermittent problems that Canon did not manage to fix. By the time they ship it back and forth, they are extremely frustrated and didn't save anything at all. People send back cameras that they feel have too many hot pixels, have AF issues, these may be within Canon Spec, but I wouldn't want to get one.

My only point is that there is some risk, and the savings should be enough to entice you to take it.

I'm considering trading in a dead body using the customer loyalty program, I will have to decide what that cost savings point is, but saving$300 on a refurb 1D MK IV is not it.

**Iguide** · 09-08-2010, 11:13 AM

scalesusa said:

"All that may be true, but when you eventually go to sell the camera,
a used refurbished model is worth much less, maybe more than $300 less,
so in the total life cycle, it can cost more."

Iguide

That is supposition and I do not believe it to be true. Please list a retailer that has an example of this so that we may all see.

scalesusa said:

"I've also heard of buyers getting refurbish cameras with intermittent
problems that Canon did not manage to fix. By the time they ship it
back and forth, they are extremely frustrated and didn't save anything
at all. People send back cameras that they feel have too many hot
pixels, have AF issues, these may be within Canon Spec, but I wouldn't
want to get one."

Iguide

Pure hearsay. Rumors especially negative ones run rampant beyond actual facts and we all know this. If you listen long enough you will be able to hear all of the "evidence" that you want provided to backup a claim. Please sight a specific example that what you are claiming here is correct. The same can all be said of brand new cameras

scalesusa said:

My only point is that there is some risk, and the savings should be enough to entice you to take it.

Iguide:

When the same warranty applies to a refurbished there is no more risk than if you were buying new. If the warranty is not same/equal to a new item you are very correct!!

scalesusa said:

I'm considering trading in a dead body using the customer loyalty
program, I will have to decide what that cost savings point is, but
saving$300 on a refurbish 1D MK IV is not it.

Iguide:

Could you please give me the location of this information for the dead body plan, I would like to see it and where it is applicable, we all are looking for less expensive ways to purchase equipment for our hobby. As you have stated refurbished is not for you, however there are many situations where it makes perfect sense for someone else should they decide to examine and go that route. Yes we are lucky enough to have won the lottery, to be able too live in our great country and be able to have such varied opinions and be able to express them.

Godspeed

Wayne

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