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    Quote Originally Posted by HDNitehawk View Post
    Canon has told a few vendors they are modifying the MTF's. Since version II was at almost 1 maybe they thought it necessary to modify so the new RF line can show improvement over older excellent models.

    Once you see the right MTF's the new lens is near identical.
    That is really weird. Canon Japan has changed (updated) the Mk II MTFs whereas Canon USA has the old (what I am used to MTFs) for the 600 Mk II but the new MTF style for the 600 MK III.

    When you click on the "how to read the MTF," it still links you to a 2013 article regarding the old MTFs.

    Just comparing the new MTFs....these new RF lenses (24-105, 28-70, and, to a lessor extent, 35 mm...no MTF on the 50 mm) are very impressive compared to the new MTFs of the 400/600.

    Quote Originally Posted by Dave Throgmartin View Post
    I think Canon worries too much about cannibalization, but they are still clearly #1. It's probably just petty jealousy because I'm not willing to open up my wallet wide enough to get "the good features".

    If I were them I would worry more about Sony. They are on their generation 3 full frame cameras which is a healthy head start over Canon and Nikon.

    Dave
    Which "good features" are you looking into? If you want something, a common strategy is to buy previous 1-2 generations. If you want all the new features, yep, most any company is going to make you pay.

    I have a good friend, buys luxury cars that are being returned from their lease. It is brilliant. He just picked up a $65k, 1 yr old Infiniti with 8k miles for about 60% of the original price.

    The quick response would be that I think Sony is the one that needs to worry now that Canon, Nikon and likely Pentax are all entering the FF MILC market. It is just never good to have 3 well established companies enter your niche.

    A bit more detailed analysis, I believe Sony has become a legitimate 3rd camera manufacturer. But, personally, I massively dislike their camera in hand, EVF, and menu system (general ergonomics) whenever I have picked one up. Also, I was looking at their recent financials in an article. They are a conglomerate that is actually forecasting selling fewer cameras (3.8M) in FY2018 than in FY2017 (4.4M). Their "imaging" group is 155B yen of a 1,858B yen company and is the smallest their 8 named divisions.

    In short, Sony seems committed to their camera system, but I always worry that they may bolt once they have extracted the desired revenue from this market or if the market suddenly shifts on them when a disruption happens like 3 established companies suddenly competing with them.

    Last quick thought, Sony knows electronics and does electronics well. They bought Konica/Minolta who knew lenses. But most of their innovations seems to be on the electronics side, which isn't surprising as that is their base. Canon/Nikon are camera body/lens companies (historically). Now that they have entered MILC market, I think that history and base will be reflected in their products.
    Last edited by Kayaker72; 09-11-2018 at 01:07 PM.

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