I totally agree with you if you want a shot to capture a subject a specific way you definitely should shoot it as such. I am not selling I was just joking I like to see how others shoot and the many different opinions that may arise in discussions. I love this hobby and as you state and wish to gain greater knowledge of what makes a good pic when working for a client. I have the habit of over-post processing my pics right now. Maybe its just a phase or maybe I spent too much on CS3 and want to make artsy shots out of the ordinary. I will really appreciate whatever criticism from the trained and untrained eye. Sorry to go off topic but now that I have a better rig and alot of ops here in Japan I will be posting alot more images. Nice shot clemmb..... I wish i had more pics when I was in texas alot of great locations to shoot! Tremendous history there.