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    Re: Canon wildlife lens?



    Quote Originally Posted by Daniel Browning


    If you are opposed to buying used, then I suggest you consider third party lenses from Sigma and Tamron. Unlike Canon, they do have some birding lenses between $1200 and $2500.
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    Daniel, any suggestions for either the Sigma and Tamron? Like you've said, I wish Canon would fill the gap. A 500/5.6 might be the ticket?



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    Quote Originally Posted by Alan
    Daniel, any suggestions for either the Sigma and Tamron?

    A used Sigma 300mm f/2.8+2X would do better than the zooms. Sometimes a used Sigma 500mm f/4.5 will come around for $2,900, but that's over budget. I thought Tamron had some nice old prime teles, but I don't see them.


    Quote Originally Posted by Alan
    Like you've said, I wish Canon would fill the gap. A 500/5.6 might be the ticket?

    Yeah. I'd prefer an 1100mm f/11 IS with optional 2X wide converter (which would turn it into a slightly soft 550mm f/5.6). Only problem is that 35mm 2X wide converters are encumbered by patent issues for the next few years, no thanks to Kodak. It would be the ideal hand-held birding lens.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Daniel Browning
    Quote Originally Posted by Alan
    Daniel, any suggestions for either the Sigma and Tamron?

    A used Sigma 300mm f/2.8+2X would do better than the zooms. Sometimes a used Sigma 500mm f/4.5 will come around for $2,900, but that's over budget. I thought Tamron had some nice old prime teles, but I don't see them.
    I'm positive that they had an old 300/2.8.


    Quote Originally Posted by Daniel Browning
    Only problem is that 35mm 2X wide converters are encumbered by patent issues for the next few years, no thanks to Kodak.

    How do they work? I've never heard of such a thing. []

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    Quote Originally Posted by ShutterbugJohan
    How do they work?

    It's the same thing as a focal reducer (or field flattener), which are used all the time in astrophotography, except with a few extra elements to preserve the backfocus distance.

    They're like the inverse of a teleconverter. They mount between the lens and camera, but instead of making the focal length longer and f-number slower, they make the focal length shorter and f-number faster. They need about 7 elements, same as a good TC, but thicker, and it needs to be matched specifically for a single lens.

    It would be ideal for wildlife because most of the time we'll want super long focal lengths (e.g. 1100mm) with the highest quality possible. An 1100mm f/11 L IS with no TC would provide that quality (and even allow another 1.4X TC), and for those rare times when it's too long or you need autofocus, you pop on the wide converter to get 550mm f/5.6, though the quality is lower.

    One example is the Oly 35-100 f/2.0, which is actually just a typical 70-200 f/2.8 lens with a wide converter permanently attached: that's why it's over two times heavier than a 35-100 f/2 should be. It should have turned out as a 35-100 f/1.4, but they left it at f/2 for some reason (I heard that if you press the lens release, it opens to f/1.6 but vignettes terribly -- perhaps that's why).

    Unfortunately, I don't think we'll see any until the Kodak patent expires.

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    Interesting. Thanks, Daniel.

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