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    New Flash



    After seeing all the great pictures on here with different lighting techniques, I've finally been inspired to getting into flash photography! I just ordered a new 580II from B&H and can't wait for it to get here! I've never done any flash photography so it is very new to me and I'll likely have lots of questions for all you strobist guru's out there!


    Still haven't decided on what type of wireless triggers to go with yet, but I'm leaning towards cybersyncs. Any comments or suggestions?


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    Re: New Flash



    Hi Stephen,


    I recently started flash photography myself and although I still have lots to learn, I am really enjoying it! There is no better place to learn all there is to know about flash photography then from the guys here at the TDP!! From their own knowledge & the links they will provide for further reading on equipment & set-up, you will be very well informed!

    Cybersyncs are a great choice but when I first started, Sean provided me witha very helpful shopping list that kept me well within my budget and for the wireless triggers using a 580EX II, he suggested the RF-602 off of ebay. They have worked great for me and with the money I saved, I was able to purchase a used 430EX II. Since then I have purchased yet another 430 EX II and an additional receiver.

    http://stores.ebay.com/jianisi-equipment__W0QQ_sidZ965159926?_nkw=RF602+RF-602+for+Canon+5D+5DII+50D+40D+with+2+receivers&amp ;submit=Search

    I hope this info helps & welcome to flash photography!! I look forward to seeing future photos using your new flash!!

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    Re: New Flash



    +1 to the RF-602s
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    Re: New Flash



    Quote Originally Posted by NFLD Stephen


    Still haven't decided on what type of wireless triggers to go with yet, but I'm leaning towards cybersyncs. Any comments or suggestions?
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    Check out this website, there is a ton of good info and I like his philosophy (learn wired flash photography before trying wireless). I too am brand new to flash photography.

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    Re: New Flash



    Quote Originally Posted by NFLD Stephen


    After seeing all the great pictures on here with different lighting techniques, I've finally been inspired to getting into flash photography! I just ordered a new 580II from B&amp;H and can't wait for it to get here! I've never done any flash photography so it is very new to me and I'll likely have lots of questions for all you strobist guru's out there!


    Still haven't decided on what type of wireless triggers to go with yet, but I'm leaning towards cybersyncs. Any comments or suggestions?


    Stephen
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    I started out with 2 different types of ebay triggers before going with Cybersyncs. Back then, the ebay options were not nearly as good as they are now (with the RF-602s). I've never had any real issues with my Cybersyncs--they are extremely reliable, use AA batteries in the receivers, and seem to hold up well under heavy use.


    That said, if I had it to do all over again, I'd take a serious look at the RadioPopper JrX system. They are comparatively priced, but allow for wireless manual control of TTL flashes (with the purchase of an RP Cube) and Alien Bees/White Lightning studio strobes. Also, I like the RP transmitter knobs for adjusting flash power better than the Cyber Commander from Paul C. Buff (which only works with studio strobes).


    At the time I bought Cybersyncs, the production of the RadioPopper JrX units had been delayed (for about a year), and I needed a solution that was already available and provided a reliable solution. Until recently investing in studio strobes, I never regretted buying Cybersyncs. However, now, I must admit that the ease (and low cost) of wireless control of studio strobe output is a very alluring feature of the JrX system. That said, I'll be sticking with Cybersyncs for the foreseeable future. ;-)



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    Re: New Flash



    Thanks for the input everyone!


    Denise: I was looking at the RF602, these seem like they fit the bill, but the posting dosn't list the XSi as one of the compatible cameras. I wouldn't think this should be a problem but I guess I should make sure. HOw does the transmitter attach to the camera? Does it mount to the hot shoe? Is the build quality good? Do they work fairly reliably?It's not critical since I don't do any professional work, I just imagine it would be quite annoying to have a flash that doesn't always fire when it should.


    TucsonTRD: I've already been on the speedliting website, thats one of the main reasons I stuck with a canon brand flash. As for trying wired flash first, I considered this and thought that I wouldn't want to have to string wires around for people to trip over. Also, I intend to get a second flash in short order and wasn't sure if two of camera flashes would work with a wired setup.


    Sean: I took a look at the RadioPoppers and they seem to be pretty good. How does the Cube thing work? Does it just allow you to adjust the manual output of the flash without having to walk over to the flash everytime? That could come in handy! Could you adust the power of two remote flashes separately?


    Also, as I mentioned already, I use an XSi and I have a 580II on the way. How do each of these systems connect to my camera and flash? Are most hotshoe mounted or will I have to get some sort of adapter?


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    Hi Sephen,


    Yes, it slides right onto the hotshoe and they have been extremely reliable! Only one time did one not fire (picture posted under current assignment) and that was do to operator error! [:P]

    I am an extreme newbie at this so if I can get it all to work ...anybody can! I am just doing this as a hobby myself and with just starting out, I did not want to spend more than I had to. I was very happy to sink the $ into more lights instead.

    I never used anything else so I do not know how they compare but I do know theRF-602's work for me with my 7D and they are made very well also. I just bought another receiver about 2 wks ago for the light I just bought.

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    Re: New Flash



    Quote Originally Posted by NFLD Stephen
    Sean: I took a look at the RadioPoppers and they seem to be pretty good. How does the Cube thing work? Does it just allow you to adjust the manual output of the flash without having to walk over to the flash everytime? That could come in handy! Could you adust the power of two remote flashes separately?

    The RP Cube is a hotshoe that you place on the bottom of your off-camera TTL-enabled strobe (like the 580EX and 430EX). The cube allows you to manually adjust the flash output from your camera (with the Radiopopper JrX transmitter on top of it). So yes, you can control the flash output by turning the knobs on the camera-mounted transmitter instead of having to walk over to the flash.

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    Re: New Flash



    Quote Originally Posted by NFLD Stephen
    I was looking at the RF602, these seem like they fit the bill, but the posting dosn't list the XSi as one of the compatible cameras.
    Around the world the XSi is more comonly called the 450D. Check <span class="mbg-nw"][url="http://stores.ebay.com/hkyongnuophotoequipment]hkyongnuophotoequipment[/url]they have them listed both ways.


    <span class="mbg-nw"](As long as it's for Canon the only difference is the trigger cable you would use if you used it as a shutter release trigger.)


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    Re: New Flash



    Here you go - I'll second the RF-602's. Working well for me.


    http://community.the-digital-picture.com/forums/p/3441/28509.aspx#28509


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