Hi John


Point well made with the music thing. Although I tend to listen to the sounds I grew up with, like the Dead, Hot Tuna, Airplane, Fleetwood Mack, Cream. I don't like to much of what is being composed today. Some yes, Enya, Jana, most of what is produced today I would not consider music, which is exactly the argument my grandfather used with me when he and I used to discuss music. I have had this discussion with my own children in the past, and as I open my mouth I hear the same words that were spoken to me more that four decades earlier. So somethings change and somethings change but remain the same. Good point about the darkroom though.





Hi Denise:


"Many, many years ago my dad would go out fishing all day and maybe not
get a bite ...then came along his new son-in-law w/ his fish locating
scanner and showed him where the schools of fish were when they'd go
out on the boat. Took him awhile to accept this as truly fishing!"


My grandfather felt the same way. He did not consider all the new fangled gear as fishing. He felt that it took the place of actually being able to read natures signs to be able to catch fish. You know what,, he happened to be right about that,, whats more is he proved it on a regular bases as for an old codger he usually out fished everyone of those "smarty pants" youngsters... None of them could ever figure out how he did it either, because they relied on technology rather than their own brains and always acted like they were so much more enlightened. They shut up though when he would pull in with some behemoth mossyback of a fish that they never found with their fish finders.


Other than that you make a very compelling argument for the newer technology of the digital world of Photography, and it effects of changing the Art of Photography in a positive way..





Hi Sean:


Developing the in camera techniques is one of the things that I seem to be having trouble learning and probably the basis of most of my frustrations. As my much smarter and younger wife keeps telling me "take your time and practice and learn". Perhaps take some courses so I'm not always learning by trial & error. Somehow it does not seem to be as simple learning"new tricks as an old dog", rather than a young one.


I strictly shot transparency on my Pentax K1000 and sent them to Fugi to process. Never
had the skill or desire to do the darkroom thing. I learned most of
what I know from my grandfather. He was a senior engineer at Polaroid
and when Dr. Land hired Ansel Adams to teach Polaroids engineers more about the in front of camera art photography, it was
my grandfather's responsibility to be the <span>liaison
if you will and spent a pretty fair piece of time working with Adams
personally. Then he and Adams worked together teaching the other
engineers.


He never mentioned to me about Adams darkroom work probably because with Polaroid and the fact he shot transparencies he did not have the occasional need to do so. Interesting information though.





Hi John:


A very real, insightful and thought provoking comparison between the two different methods of post processing. Your point of view encourages me to take a more open minded and accepting view of digital.





Hi Jon:


Interesting points of view from on your part part. After thinking about them I can see the value of their applications. However you missed several of the points that I was trying to make. That is very easy to do with the written word because you can not hear the tonal inflections to know if someone is saying something seriously or with tong in cheek. Unfortunately you picked up on just about every instance that I did things tong in cheek. I would venture that is because those seemed the most provocatively closed minded when in fact I was just interjecting a bit of old yankee humor.


The child rearing thing,,,, you got completely wrong, not even close I'm afraid. I never compared two people having children and the different ways that they could/would raise them. I did make it I thought extremely clear I was talking about a person that has no experience at a given task telling someone that had a lot of experience at the same task what they are doing incorrectly and how to do it the correct way. When I was raising my children I always got a good chuckle out of those that thought they were so intellectually superior that they had to expound their vast knowledge of the task when in fact they had no knowledge or very little if at all.


I value your opinions and the generosity that you had enough of to be willing to share them with me. So if you are going to quote me in the future and then going to make your own point please do it accurately. Thank you Jon





I would like to extend my gratitude to all that have taken their time to give their personal insight into the subject at hand.





Thanks Much:


Wayne





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