mike, i'm going to try and get down for that one, and no, i cant think of a good vantage point that is free, except maybe a boat [:P]. i've always liked the vantage point from ontario place, too bad nuthing is free anymore [].............actually, let me amend that, there is a free (donations accepted) airshow in brantford every sept 1st, i'm going to try and get to that one, even though it isnt on a weekend and i'll have to burn a vacation day, or sick day..........lol


jim