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    The Clock is crooked. [] Only Kidding!


    Itlooks good to me, but I agree with the white balance adjustment, as it looks a tad on the warm side.


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    Thank you for the boost of confidence John, Tom, and Rich!


    I shot this in RAW and adjusted the WB as it was really 'warm' compared to this one. Lemme give it another look tonight and adjust more the WB to a 'cooler' light.


    I guess the tricky part was having tungsten as main light, cloudy daylight on right (it had floor to ceiling window walls), and some patches of fluorescent light.


    Thank you again for your comments.


    Again, I've learned something new form you guys.. about the custom WB. I should have tried using it. I guess I was too busy on composition, exposure, or most probably just lack of experience.


    Here's the 'cooled' photo (I think this is better):


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    Quote Originally Posted by MrGreenBug
    I guess the tricky part was having tungsten as main light, cloudy daylight on right (it had floor to ceiling window walls), and some patches of fluorescent light.

    That's definitely a tricky lighting situation. The only thing you're missing is some fill flash, to throw yet another color temperature into the mix... [:P]


    That's exactly the sort of situation where I'd throw a WB reference into a test shot for later.


    Quote Originally Posted by MrGreenBug
    Here's the 'cooled' photo (I think this is better):

    I like it better, too. I'm a big fan of getting the WB right, that was one of the main reasons I switch to RAW - so I could adjust WB in post without penalty.


    You can certainly do a custom WB on site, but if you're shooting in RAW, IMO it's easier to just do it in post. I think the only times I'd set an in-camera custom WB would be if I was going to shoot jpgs indoors - but I don't ever shoot JPG (even my P&S - an S95 - shoots in RAW). Else, I just find it easier to tweak in post.

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    Excellent fix. If we all remain open minded to each others comments we all improve as photographers. I think that is what this forum is about, or at least should be. But since we are a bunch of egotists it can be difficult at times. Lol!!


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    Quote Originally Posted by neuroanatomist
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    I like it better, too. I'm a big fan of getting the WB right, that was one of the main reasons I switch to RAW - so I could adjust WB in post without penalty.

    <div>I try to achieve this too (at least most of the time) and that's why I shoot in RAW 99% of the time. [] I really don't have any experience on in-camera custom white balance.</div>
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    Excellent fix. If we all remain open minded to each others comments we all improve as photographers. I think that is what this forum is about, or at least should be. But since we are a bunch of egotists it can be difficult at times. Lol!!


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    Thanks Tom. I do like the fix better. And yeah, sometimes our egos get in the way of improvement. []
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    I like the shot, especially after the WB tweak. The only question I have is about the framing. While I am sure the shot was tight and it sounds like the windows created a real challenge, I feel like the left side of the frame (the sink in particular) is clipped -- kind of like a portrait that cuts off a person's arm at the elbow. Would it have been possible to zoom out a little to include more of the sink and its undercabinet? I understand why you wanted to keep the doorway in the shot, as it provides some nice depth to the shot.

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    Nice shot Angelo, the second is definitely better toned than the first one [Y] I like the angle and the field of view. However I think the window on the right isn't adding much to the picture if I must be honest. Personally I think I would have removed it by cropping. But nonetheless it's a very nice shot.


    I like to do the white-balance just as John does. Correct it in post-processing. I just bought a grey card set which I'm planning on using in some more serious photos. Just make sure it's in the frame at one shot and keep shooting auto-white-balance. And then adjust all the photos in the same lighting in post-processing with the sample image I shot of the grey card.


    Quote Originally Posted by MrGreenBug
    sometimes our egos get in the way of improvement. [img]/emoticons/emotion-2.gif[/img]

    Haha +1, also my stubbornness isn't really helping out from time to time [:P] If I think I'm right...try to stop me [] But yeah if you/me/we keep respecting and valuing eachothers opinions, we could all improve a lot.


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    Quote Originally Posted by thekingb


    ... I feel like the left side of the frame (the sink in particular) is clipped -- kind of like a portrait that cuts off a person's arm at the elbow. Would it have been possible to zoom out a little to include more of the sink and its undercabinet? I understand why you wanted to keep the doorway in the shot, as it provides some nice depth to the shot.


    <div>Thank you! I never thought about that sink being cut off like a person's arm in portraits and I think that's a good point to consider next time.</div>
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    Would it have been possible to zoom out a little to include more of the sink and its undercabinet?



    Yes, it was possible but I really never thought if it that way until now that you've pointed it out. []


    Quote Originally Posted by thekingb


    I understand why you wanted to keep the doorway in the shot, as it provides some nice depth to the shot.

    <div>About this door, well I wanted something to reference to a pathway and not just having some two-sided box. Now that you've provided another way of looking at it, I guess it makes sense more now to me.</div>
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    Nice shot Angelo, the second is definitely better toned than the first one [img]/emoticons/emotion-21.gif[/img] I like the angle and the field of view. However I think the window on the right isn't adding much to the picture if I must be honest. Personally I think I would have removed it by cropping. But nonetheless it's a very nice shot.


    I like to do the white-balance just as John does. Correct it in post-processing. I just bought a grey card set which I'm planning on using in some more serious photos. Just make sure it's in the frame at one shot and keep shooting auto-white-balance. And then adjust all the photos in the same lighting in post-processing with the sample image I shot of the grey card.

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    Thanks Jan! I usually do my WB adjustment too in post-process by adjusting the color temp through the Kelvin scale. I guess I have to get myself a grey card then so I can try this custom WB.


    Thank you again for your comments and critique. I surely did learn a lot today. [Y][]



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    Quote Originally Posted by MrGreenBug
    I usually do my WB adjustment too in post-process by adjusting the color temp through the Kelvin scale. I guess I have to get myself a grey card then so I can try this custom WB.

    Just to point out, if you get the gray card you don't need to set the Custom WB on the camera. Just take a shot of the gray card in the room sometime during the shoot. Then when you PP, if you're using DPP select Click White Balance, click the eyedropper tool, and click that on the gray card. You can then register that setting (store up to 3) and apply it to subsequent images from the same lighting situation.

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