Ebay always scares me a bit. Make sure you check their rating. 5dII can be refurbished like the ones on the canon website and will run $2000 US. I would not be scared of the refurb models. Straight up new ones are about $500 US more. The lens is another $1000 give or take and can be bought new or refurb as well. Some folks will scam you with a low price up front and never deliver the goods until you buy something else from them at an inflated price.