Reikan FoCal - Automatic AF Micro adjustment software

[conropl]

Bob:

I do not have the 500, but I did use this with my 100-400 and the results matched my manual method. A couple of suggestions:

• They suggest printing the target at 300dpi. On my printer that did not look good so I printed at 600dpi which was way better.
• Make sure the paper and ink is not reflective, and make sure your lighting is consistant throughout the test (clouds moving in and out is not good).
• I know you are supposed to be 50 time the focal length for optimal testing, but you would be better off at the distance most shot from. Aslo, when I did my manual testing, I did it at the recomeneded distance and came up with an adjustment of +5. Then using the FoCal at a much closer distance (about 8 meters) I got the same results several times in a row. I guess I would suggest a shorter target distance. That is not normal practice, but it seemed to give me expected results.
• Did you turn off IS? If you did not, then that would make your live view drift in and out (FoCal suggests it be turned off).

Not sure that will solve you problem, but it is what I did.

Also, I was supprised at the results I got with my macro lens, but after checking it out at the setting suggested by the testing, it seemed to be correct.

Pat

[bob williams]

Bob:

I do not have the 500, but I did use this with my 100-400 and the results matched my manual method. A couple of suggestions:

• They suggest printing the target at 300dpi. On my printer that did not look good so I printed at 600dpi which was way better.
• Make sure the paper and ink is not reflective, and make sure your lighting is consistant throughout the test (clouds moving in and out is not good).
• I know you are supposed to be 50 time the focal length for optimal testing, but you would be better off at the distance most shot from. Aslo, when I did my manual testing, I did it at the recomeneded distance and came up with an adjustment of +5. Then using the FoCal at a much closer distance (about 8 meters) I got the same results several times in a row. I guess I would suggest a shorter target distance. That is not normal practice, but it seemed to give me expected results.
• Did you turn off IS? If you did not, then that would make your live view drift in and out (FoCal suggests it be turned off).

Pat

Pat, I will try another reprint as you suggested, I also checked and did everything else you mentioned. I was also haveing the same problem with my 100-400@400. I may also try shooting from the counter top for a little more stability.

Thanks

[bob williams]

I rec'd an Email back from Rich Meston of Reikan Technologies and here are his comments:

Hi Robert

I'm sorry to hear you're having problems with FoCal.

Firstly, the largest and smallest targets are not recognised by the currently released version of FoCal for Target Setup or Target Optimisation. Support for these targets has been added in the next release which is due out at the end of January.

Having said that, you should still be able to run a calibration with the larger target and your lenses. I would suggest you turn Target Validation to off and use the larger target, visually checking through the viewfinder that the centre focal point is aimed at the centre of the target. At the distances you are talking about, slight offsets from parallel will have less of an affect that closer, so it should not be an issue.

Could you let me know if using the larger target in this mode stops the inconsistent behaviour? If not, then it may be good to capture some debug logs, and I can explain how to do that.

Kind regards

So, the problem with the large target explained and I will try re-shooting with it this afternoon (weather permitting). But I think I will try shooting from my cabinet top just to eliminate and vibration.

[bob williams]

Hello, Hello---anyone out there

As suggested by Rich @ Reikan, I went through the procedure again and here is what I reported to Rich.

Rich, I went through the testing routine again with my Canon 7D and 500 F4L---and achieved the same inconsistent results. Here was my setup:

1. Camera and lens sitting on a granite counter top---on a concrete slab (I wanted to remove any chance of movement or vibration from a tripod).
2. I ran the test with the target in both sunlight (ev 11.6) and shade (ev 9.5)
3. I ran the test with the large target at 25 meters and 12 meters

I still had inconsistent runs and always rec'd the "inconsistent behavior" message on every run.

after 20 tests I had two readings that showed up the most often: +6 or 0. Since my own tests with a ruler and target normally indicate that I should be at a +5 to + 8, I decided to stick with the +6 reading.

If you want to see the debugging logs, please let me know how to retrieve and transmit them to you.

On a side note, I think this software you have developed is outstanding---if I can help test and provide you feedback I will gladly do so. Just let me know.

Based on my findings to date I have concluded:

1. There is something wrong with the software when it comes to long lenses; or
2. There is something wrong with my camera or lens.

Your comments are welcome.

[NFLD Stephen]

Bob;

Do you have access to another body you could test your 500 with? If you are concerned that there could be a problem with your camera or lens (or the combination) then running the FoCal program using a different body could eliminate one potential factor. Just a thought.

Stephen

[bob williams]

Bob;

Do you have access to another body you could test your 500 with? If you are concerned that there could be a problem with your camera or lens (or the combination) then running the FoCal program using a different body could eliminate one potential factor. Just a thought.

Stephen

Unfortunately, I do not. But I do have a friend visiting this weekend and he owns a 500, maybe I can try his lens and see what happens. Since my camera seemed to worked perfectly with the shorter lenses, I doubt that the camera is the problem, unless it has something to do with the combo.

[HDNitehawk]

Bob

Of course I don't have the software and am just living vicariously through you on this one. Since I have the 500mm I have some thoughts and these might be obvious to you, I know it is easy for me to overlook the easy stuff. On the 500mm I am sure you turned IS off. It also has the switch that changes from close distance to long. I would probably use the one that does the whole range but I wonder if this option creates a problem. There is the switch that saves your focus point; I would assume you had it turned off. The AF stop buttons on the lens, it’s been a while I do not remember if the 7D had the option or not to program theses, I would think if it does it should be set to AF stop which is default. In the 7D's settings for the AF system I would make sure it is set to the original default, not an expanded point option or something similar. Make sure your CPL is not in the lens. Lens hood on to keep stray light out.

I doubt it is your camera or lens, since you are using them now and they work fine.

I know these are obvious things, but if all the variables are removed from your equipment then the software may be the problem.

I am really hoping this one works out Bob. I like the idea of clicking the mouse and letting technology calibrate the camera. I think it is silly in today’s world of technology we buy an $8000 camera and lens set up and we have to calibrate it with cereal boxes, yardsticks, plumb bobs and tape measures.