Full Frame…Help!

[neuroanatomist]

Some years back, I was using a 7D and bought a 5DII. I found the IQ to be much better, although the AF was not as effective. I continued using the 7D for birds, but switched to the 5DII for everything else. Agree with the above that the 6D should also be considered.

I suspect your biggest future issue will be lenses, as your standard zoom, your ultrawide zoom and your macro lens are all EF-S. Macro is a toss up for FF vs. APS-C, so I'd say that's not a priority. Also, most FF standard zooms start at 24mm, so if you use your ultrawide mainly at 15mm or narrower, you'd be covered for FF. I'd look into a used/white box 24-105 f/4L as a standard zoom to replace the 17-55/2.8 (the FFeq of the EF-S is 27-88mm f/4.5, so the 24-105 is wider, longer, and faster).

Good luck!

[jerrytech1]

Just to be clear...will all of my current lenses work on the 6D or 5DII?

[EricPvpi]

Your EF-S lenses will not work with either the 6D or 5DII - 17-55 2.8, 60mm Macro 1.8 (is this really the EF-S 2.8?), ULTRAWIDE 10-22.

[jerrytech1]

Thanks everyone! Lots of information to process!

[Squidy]

Some of those lenses won't work. I'd also recommend the 6D, the quality is fantastic. I switched from a 6D to a 5DmkIII (purely due to docus points) and then to a 5Ds (too much money to burn).

The 6D is great for landscapes and great in low light (shot a few gigs with it and it didn't miss a beat), but it's focus point selection is incredibly primitive both in types of focus points and actual focus points available. The 5dmkIII is far superior in that regard. However, the 6D is still a fantastic camera and the image quality is amazing.

[Kayaker72]

Already a lot of good advice. As someone who jumped from the 7D to 5DIII, I just want to add a few thoughts:

• At least for me the jump felt like more of an incremental improvement in several areas. The IQ from the 5DIII is better, especially low light, highlights, transition between areas of contrast, and bokeh. But in terms of "what can I take" that I couldn't take before, do not underestimate how good the 7D is and the fact that the 7DII and 80D (maybe even T6i) will have better IQ than the 7D. I think you will notice the improvements right away, but the
• Lens selection. I just want to echo what someone else said and more lenses were intended and designed for FF compared to APS-C. This is great, but, if you start buying those lenses, it is not cheap.
• Along these lines, APS-C seems built for utility. I had a wide range covered with my 7D, EFS 15-85, and 100-400 L. Slower glass, sure, but for travel, walking around, and just taking pictures, amazing. Because of the larger image circle, FF does not have an equivalent to the 15-85. To have faster glass covering the same range I find myself with more lenses. Which, in the end cost me more, and has made traveling a bit more cumbersome.

I don't want you to misconstrue my intent, there are advantages to full frame. I would just think about what you want, what you need, and why you want to make the jump. APS-C is very capable and actually has a few advantages, particularly, convenience.

[jerrytech1]

I love my 7D and have no intention of parting with it. My thinking is this: my T3i sits in the bag and never gets any use. If I make the move to the 5DII or 6D, I will still have 2 bodies with a nice assortment of lenses for both. Plus, I will use both cameras for their respective assignments. I will have 2 outstanding choices for every shoot, as opposed to just keeping the T3i as a backup. The FF would be my primary for portraits and the 7D for landscape, wildlife, sports.

[conropl]

When I got a ff I was surprised how wide 24mm was. I did the math before hand and understood what would happen, but I was so used to shooting at 24mm with the 7D. But you soon get used to it and I have since got a 16-35 that I use a lot (time to sell the 24-105). The 400mm is going to be at the other spectrum of the issue, but if you keep your 7D you will not have a problem, but I found I could crop the ff files more than the 7D.

If it was me, I think the ff would be my goto camera for landscapes... not the 7D because the noise is controlled better (especially in low light).

After all other considerations, the big improvement the ff cameras will give you is the high ISO capability and the better control of noise overall (which also equates to more head room in sharpening and lifting shadows in pp). I found this alone solved a lot of the problems I had with the 7D. A lot of low light shots will open up for you. However, the low light improvements will be less so if you go to far back into earlier generations of camera's. This is why everyone is pushing the 6D over the 5D II.

By the way... my 7D never got used anymore. I gave it to my nephew.

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[DavidEccleston]

Thanks peety3. I'll do some digging. Of course, by the time I'm ready to buy one, there will be new models to compare.

[jerrytech1]

thanks everyone for all the feedback. awesome...