Canon EF-S 10-22mm vs. Tokina 11-16mm -> FIGHT!

[DJ 86]

finalising for 3 options. tamron/sigma 17-70 F2.8 or sigma 17-70 F2.8- 4.
any suggestion among these 3? in the digital picture review i cud find that tamron 17-50 is better than sigma 17-70. would like to know more from all you senior members. will have this lens just as a replacement for kit lens and for day to day photography. if needed, will get a wide angle later on. and if zoom lens is required, will mostly opt for canon 70-200 F4L, but not at the moment.
please suggest if any 1 of these 3 is a good replacement for kit lens, considering as a walkaround lens and for its price.any flaws in the particular lens and if canon has similar lens (but not too costly.)

[DavidEccleston]

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[DJ 86]

finalising for 3 options. tamron/sigma 17-50 F2.8 or sigma 17-70 F2.8- 4.
any suggestion among these 3? in the digital picture review i cud find that tamron 17-50 is better than sigma 17-70. would like to know more from all you senior members. will have this lens just as a replacement for kit lens and for day to day photography. if needed, will get a wide angle later on. and if zoom lens is required, will mostly opt for canon 70-200 F4L, but not at the moment.
please suggest if any 1 of these 3 is a good replacement for kit lens, considering as a walkaround lens and for its price.any flaws in the particular lens and if canon has similar lens (but not too costly.)

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[Jayson]

@jayson, you said 24-70 would be large on 600D, what does that mean?? what does canon UWA mean?? ultrawide?? why tamron 17-50 without VC?? and 70-200 u mentioned is canon L series ?? waiting for ur pics. btw, please mention prices of the lens too, so that i can get a fair idea.

The reason I said the Canon 24-70 would be large on your 600D is it's size. I have two rebels and it is definitely not balanced very well on those bodies. It is a huge lens and you will be a little lens heavy. I suggested the Tamron without VC because it is crazy sharp. The VC version I have heard is not as sharp and I don't really think you need IS in a lens of that nature. It is light and focuses fast enough to catch my kids in action (5 yrs old). I used it for about 90% of my wedding photos and stuff before about November of 2011 due to focusing issues on my Canon 24-70mm. The Tamron took a trip to the service center right after I got it and was perfect when it came back. I have had horrible luck with Sigma lenses and focus shifting, but other have had good luck. So take your choice.

Yes UWA is ultrawide. I have a friend with the Canon 10-22mm and it is a great lens. I got my Tokina 12-24mm on a deal because I have always wanted to try one and it is a great little lens. Had a constant f/4 so I am happy. So, I am not going after the Canon UWA anymore. It is also about $150 to $200 more. Here are a couple shots with my Tokina recently. I am not a landscape photographer by any means, but it is fun.




As for the Canon 70-200 f4 L, that's what I was talking about. This one http://www.the-digital-picture.com/R...ns-Review.aspx is about $640. The Tamron http://www.the-digital-picture.com/R...ns-Review.aspx has a rebate also and is about $414, then you have a Tokina 12-24 at about $525 or the Tokina 11-16 at $659 or the Canon 10-22 at $756. All prices can either be found on B&H or Adorama.

If you were to get the Canon 10-22 at $756 and Canon 24-70 at $1269. If it were me and I was just starting out, I would get something in the paragraph above and then if I decided later on, upgrading is always an option. I would have been very happy with the first kit when I first started out and would probably still be using most of them. I only have the Canon 24-70 from a gift over the holidays of last year otherwise I would still be using my Tamron all the time. The 24-70 sometimes just is not wide enough to shoot stuff indoors in tight quarters because with the 1.6x crop factor is it a field of view from a 35mm area. I mainly use it outside. Hope that helps.

Here are a couple examples of why I say it would be large on you 600D. Both are on an XTi or 400D I think it was. Canon on left, Tamron on right. Photo taken with the other lens. Canon is also much heavier.

[DJ 86]

The reason I said the Canon 24-70 would be large on your 600D is it's size. I have two rebels and it is definitely not balanced very well on those bodies. It is a huge lens and you will be a little lens heavy. I suggested the Tamron without VC because it is crazy sharp. The VC version I have heard is not as sharp and I don't really think you need IS in a lens of that nature. It is light and focuses fast enough to catch my kids in action (5 yrs old). I used it for about 90% of my wedding photos and stuff before about November of 2011 due to focusing issues on my Canon 24-70mm. The Tamron took a trip to the service center right after I got it and was perfect when it came back. I have had horrible luck with Sigma lenses and focus shifting, but other have had good luck. So take your choice.

Yes UWA is ultrawide. I have a friend with the Canon 10-22mm and it is a great lens. I got my Tokina 12-24mm on a deal because I have always wanted to try one and it is a great little lens. Had a constant f/4 so I am happy. So, I am not going after the Canon UWA anymore. It is also about $150 to $200 more. Here are a couple shots with my Tokina recently. I am not a landscape photographer by any means, but it is fun.




As for the Canon 70-200 f4 L, that's what I was talking about. This one http://www.the-digital-picture.com/R...ns-Review.aspx is about $640. The Tamron http://www.the-digital-picture.com/R...ns-Review.aspx has a rebate also and is about $414, then you have a Tokina 12-24 at about $525 or the Tokina 11-16 at $659 or the Canon 10-22 at $756. All prices can either be found on B&H or Adorama.

If you were to get the Canon 10-22 at $756 and Canon 24-70 at $1269. If it were me and I was just starting out, I would get something in the paragraph above and then if I decided later on, upgrading is always an option. I would have been very happy with the first kit when I first started out and would probably still be using most of them. I only have the Canon 24-70 from a gift over the holidays of last year otherwise I would still be using my Tamron all the time. The 24-70 sometimes just is not wide enough to shoot stuff indoors in tight quarters because with the 1.6x crop factor is it a field of view from a 35mm area. I mainly use it outside. Hope that helps.

Here are a couple examples of why I say it would be large on you 600D. Both are on an XTi or 400D I think it was. Canon on left, Tamron on right. Photo taken with the other lens. Canon is also much heavier.

very nice info. and nice pics as well.
i think, as sugested by you, i will try for tamron 17-50 F2.8 non vc. i think this is the lens you suggested.http://www.the-digital-picture.com/R...ns-Review.aspx and not this one
http://www.the-digital-picture.com/R...ns-Review.aspx.

[DJ 86]

@jayson , and wat abt the sigma 17-70? how would you rate it? cos i also have a though, of 20mm more focal length than 50mm. please sugggest

[Jayson]

I have never tried that lens or used it. I have used the 50mm prime and the 30mm prime, but had loads of focus issues so I haven't even tried it. You could give the Sigma a try and if it doesn't work, send it back. Most of the big sellers, Amazon, Adorama, B&H all let you return something like 30 days after purchase. Most pay for the return shipping too, but I'd look into that before purchasing. I know the extra 20mm is a bonus and I use it a bunch on my Canon, so go with what you think you'll need. Yes the first Tamron is the one I suggested.

[DJ 86]

@jayson, i would like to see the photo gallery of you and other senior members. you have your photo stream on flickr?

[Jayson]

My gallery and blog are in my signature.

[DJ 86]

as discueed about tamron 17-50 non VC, i have a small doubt. will it helo, if i am clicking the images from car, or any other vehicle? or when my hand is not stable, and subjected to vibrations.? or shld i go for VC/OS version.?