What kind of flash...

**keller** · 06-01-2009, 02:12 PM

I know, you guys are thinking....this Keller guy is asking way to many questions!!

Sorry about that. I am just trying to learn as much as i can.

My question is...

What is a good flash to get for me 450D? Something that won't break the bank, but will let me learn as much as possible dealing with different types of shots using a flash?

thanks again...

keller

**Dumien** · 06-01-2009, 02:25 PM

I bought the 430 EX II and couldn't be happier. Actually, if you buy the 430 EX, the older model, you'll get almost the same performance for a better price...i didn't buy the older model because I couldn't find a used one off an ebay seller I trusted...

it really works well, and it's easy to use (i'm no pro, neither at flash nor at photography hahaha) and it make me take great pictures...

**Dallasphotog** · 06-01-2009, 02:29 PM

I second the 430 suggestion. The 430 EX and 430 EXII are both good starting points for a flash collection. When you add the 580 EXIIlater, you can use the 430's as slaves and have outstanding capabilities.

**Scott** · 06-01-2009, 07:22 PM

I agree with the others, the 430exii is a very forgiving flash for my experience and 50D. Keep asking the questions, we all started from the same point at one time or another.

**clemmb** · 06-01-2009, 08:01 PM

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I have had it about 1-1/2 and it has enough looseness in it sometimes
misfires. I never have this issue with the EX that uses the screw
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**Sean Setters** · 06-01-2009, 08:01 PM

@keller

What kinds of shooting do you want to do? Portraiture? Action sports? Parties? Kids playing in the living room?

The reason I'm asking is this--while the 430EX is a fantastic flash, if you're mostly wanting to shoot portraiture you might want to consider getting a cheaper (non-Canon) flash (like the Vivitar 285HV), a lightstand, an umbrella, umbrella swivel, and a cheap wireless flash trigger (like the CTR-301p found on ebay) for the same amount of money. When it comes to shooting people, off-camera flash will give you much better results overall.

You can sort of simulate off-camera flash with an on-camera flash by bouncing the light off a neutral (white) colored wall...but that's not always a viable option.

For an example of what you can do with off-camera flash, take a look at this shot I did last weekend. It was lit with 3 Vivitar 285HVs.

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Just something to think about...

**keller** · 06-02-2009, 12:16 AM

Hey pros...

Thanks for all the help and advice. Right now i take photos of anything that moves or even stands still. I am just trying to learn as much as possible. I bought the camera for family picture taking, but i believe i fell in love with the camera. Now i want to know everything aboutthe cameraand more....

thanks again...

keller

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