R5? R6? Anyone?

[Kayaker72]

Better bring a big lens if photographing birds using full frame. Crop sensors are better for the guy without big whites.

Dave

So, I have wondered if this says something about the future of crop sensor cameras, but....

An EOL (Rick Sammon) talking about the R6 and the new RF 600 mm f/11 and RF 800 mm f/11.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w_mfqryFqBw

Not "L"....not aimed at the professional crowd, but a pair of <$1000 "super tele" lenses for the masses.

[Dave Throgmartin]

So, I have wondered if this says something about the future of crop sensor cameras, but....

An EOL (Rick Sammon) talking about the R6 and the new RF 600 mm f/11 and RF 800 mm f/11.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w_mfqryFqBw

Not "L"....not aimed at the professional crowd, but a pair of <$1000 "super tele" lenses for the masses.

Good God f/11 is slow. I'd say for photographing birds lenses that are so slow would be virtually unusable if you want to shoot at any reasonable ISO.

I take photos of bald eagles a few times each winter. 1/1500 shutter is a good starting point to get sharp shots. What ISO would I have to use to shoot wide open at 1/1500? Too high

Dave

[HDNitehawk]

Good God f/11 is slow. I'd say for photographing birds lenses that are so slow would be virtually unusable if you want to shoot at any reasonable ISO.

I take photos of bald eagles a few times each winter. 1/1500 shutter is a good starting point to get sharp shots. What ISO would I have to use to shoot wide open at 1/1500? Too high

Dave

I don't think you would have a problem on a sunny day. You are getting what you pay for.

The question is how good will the IQ be.

The MTF of the new 800mm:



It would be a cheap way to get in to wildlife photography.

[Dave Throgmartin]

I don't think you would have a problem on a sunny day. You are getting what you pay for.

The question is how good will the IQ be.

The MTF of the new 800mm:



It would be a cheap way to get in to wildlife photography.

I looked at a series of action shots from December 2018 @ late afternoon:

1/1600 f/6.3 ISO 320 400mm

If shooting at f/11 then roughly ISO 1000.

Maybe they'd clean up decent, but I think it would be very limiting.

Dave

[Karsaa]

I looked at a series of action shots from December 2018 @ late afternoon:

1/1600 f/6.3 ISO 320 400mm

If shooting at f/11 then roughly ISO 1000.

Maybe they'd clean up decent, but I think it would be very limiting.

Dave

You really saying that iso 1000 is bad? I constantly use iso 5000-10000 on night time shooting and without stacking images i don't have any issues with it. Been shooting macros with iso 3200-6400 no issuess so really can't see what is the problem here.

[Dave Throgmartin]

You really saying that iso 1000 is bad? I constantly use iso 5000-10000 on night time shooting and without stacking images i don't have any issues with it. Been shooting macros with iso 3200-6400 no issuess so really can't see what is the problem here.

Astro and BIF are quite different types of shooting. I am a cropped sensor birding photog and yes in my opinion ISO 1000 is pushing it if you want fine details in feathers.

You may have superior post processing abilities than I have.

Dave