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    Okay to use 1/3 ISO increments?



    So I heard something somewhere that using the ISO values that aren't the standard 100-200-400 etc... can actually produce MORE noise than the "correct" values, even that one lower? For instance instead of using 250 or 320, you should use 200 or 400... because I hear even 400 has less noise than 250 or 320. I don't really understand how this can be true. I've read that it has something to do with the ISO values that aren't "real" are "simulated" and those algorithms actually end up producing more noise but I wanted to get some verification on this. I've searched the web and have found very wishy-washy results... does anyone know of this??


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    I disable 1/3's because when I'm touching the iso I'm moving it a lot and its less clicks to get it where I need it to go (:

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    Quote Originally Posted by crosbyharbison


    I disable 1/3's because when I'm touching the iso I'm moving it a lot and its less clicks to get it where I need it to go (:
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    Good point.


    I don't know if there's any reason why non-doubled ISO numbers would be any worse, but out of habit, I use the round numbers anyway.

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    I've read this sometime ago (I think it's from this site) that ISO 250, 320 and the like are produced through interpolation and in camera algorithms (same as how p&amp;s cameras uses digital zoom). By using native ISOs, I find it much easier to move from ISO 100 to 1600 using a few clicks (same a crosbyharbison's comment).

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    I think the problem is that because with some canon cameras, those "tweener" iso's are fake (in other words, ISO 125 may be the same to the hardware as 100, then hacked by software to look like 125) you might get more quantization error and lose a little dyamic range (either as lost highlight headroom or increased shadow noise, depending on which way the software adjusts).


    Personally, I don't care about any of that. I just turn them off
    because I don't like having to turn the dial so much to go from 100 to
    3200.


    You always get less photon noise when using a lower iso (assuming the meter reads the same, the light actually is the same, and you don't adjust the exposure) because you get more light, so I don't think the claim that ISO 400 has less noise than 250 is always true (read noise may be worse, but overall noise will not always be... in fact, will probably not be in most cases).


    I think Daniel can expand/correct the above.









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    I find the 1/3 ISO adjustments very valuable in my work.

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    The tweeners are essentially pushed an pulled from natives. 125 is 100 pushed a 1/3 which will increase noise appearance. 160 is 200 pulled a 1/3 which clips shadow detail reducing dynamic range.

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    Jon hit the nail on the head.

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    Hmmm... that's what I was afraid of... looks like I should change my ISOs then!

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    Hmm... sorry that's it's off topics, but what about "Highlight Tone Priority" it's "Disabled" but should it be on? What is it? Doesn't it just increase the dynamic range somewhat to reduce blowouts?

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