Originally Posted by
Dave Throgmartin
My comment was probably a blowing off steam type of thing... has been a bit of a rough patch recently on a personal level.
However, in my opinion Canon does choose to product differentiate on some odds things. The 5D Mark II and 6D only have one reliable autofocus point. The 6DII has a sensor that does not appear terribly competitive in 2018 (although the wife bought one anyway).
If you want a full frame camera with competent autofocus AND a modern sensor for a DSLR you have to buy the 5D IV at a minimum. That said, they do have the refurbished lens program which can be a substantial savings. They also have the largest used gear market, again allowing substantial savings.
Nikon and Sony do not seem to have quite the same approach towards product differentiation although they have their other faults.
Dave
Sorry to hear about the personal issues. We've all been there. Good luck with everything.
The merits of Canon's product announcements have been discussed at length in other forums. This group has tended to stay above the fray. But it is interesting. Ultimately, Canon does what Canon does. It makes sense for them.
What is nice about the R is that it does seem to be a body that they added a lot too that is at a very nice price point. To get a 5DIV sensor at $2,300 in a new camera (I got my 5DIV on a refurbished sale) is a steal in Canonland. While I will wait on reviewers, the Canon AF may be as good or better than any other mirrorless camera.
For a lot of people, I can see picking the R over the 6DII or even 5DIV right now. Just to name a few, it has future compatibility/side to side AF ability/low light AF ability over the 5DIV, the above issues, and sensor over the 6DII.
So, right now I am left with the opposite feeling to what you described with Canon. Usually, I see distinct price points coupled with distinctly different products and it makes sense to me (as a consumer, I may not like it, but it makes sense). Here, I think Canon went lower on price, a bit higher on specs to enter the market. But, now I am left scratching my head a bit as the R really muddys the water in terms of product/price point differentiation.
Originally Posted by
Karsaa
What i am interested is to see how this new R body works on nigh time. Since i 95% shoot at night time. I just changed my 5dsr to 5div to have actually proper body for stars, milky way and auroras. Next thing to get is the 2nd body to have more stills shootings since the 5d4 is on heavily time lapse duty.
While I haven't heard of anyone using it for astro yet, if you get into the video David linked, they talk a lot about low light focusing. It very much helps to have a fast lens as the more light that hits the sensor the better. But this could be a beast of a camera for low light/nightscapes.