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    It's amazing how much progress has been made recently in the world of photography.

    I wonder if at a point in the future if features like Eye AF might make bird photography so much easier if it'd be less fun. If eventual development means success is almost guaranteed and the need for skill is greatly reduced would you still want to do it?

    My family is in north central Illinois. We'll typically travel to the Mississippi River area (~ 1 1/2 hour drive) a couple times a year for eagles in the winter when the Army Corp Engineers counts show eagles are in the areas of the lock & dams. We've done this with equipment as nice as 80D/100-400 II or as basic as 60D/55-250.

    The equipment makes a huge difference there is no doubt about that. You could get decent results with 250-300mm focal length and more basic AF if the birds were plentiful, you really knew where to go, have good anticipation, etc... but it is a lot easier with a longer FL lens and better AF.

    As time goes on both the equipment, knowledge, and skill get better so of course the end photographs do too. If it became to easy though I though I think it'd lose some of the allure. There are plenty of trips that come up without a lot of photographic return. Of course, there's bonding with people you care about and I think that's really the point of it, eagles are just a good reason to get together.

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    Well, if you are used to a 400mm f/5.6. Even a 600mm f/6.3 from Sigma or Tamron is gonna make your 400 feel inadequate in comparison, especially with extenders. It's just a whole another league of reach. Especially for things like eagles. I wouldn't even think of using anything less than a 600mm for a starting point for eagles, you use extenders from there. Eagles are reach hungry.

    But more to the point, while gear can make or break a shot in bird photography. It still will never make birding a truly easy situation. I have gone wading up to my chin in water, freezing cold till I can't feel my fingers. Rained on. Sweating hot. Sinking in quicksand (That got me a little scared, threw my gear onto dry land and my brother pulled me out. lol!). Stalking for 3 or 4 hours or making special trips to places for shots. It's still offers plenty of challenge no matter what. And when you have done all that, I'd much rather have a 600mm f/4 or 800mm f/5.6 with an R3 and walk away with the shot that looks amazing, maybe a shot of a lifetime.

    I do have fun doing it, but it's not the reason I do it. It's the end result always that gets me my high. When I land a great shot, it's a rush. That's my fix. Because without that, all the fun I had going out to take the shot wasn't really that fun anymore without that end result. If I wanted to enjoy nature I'd go hiking or birding with binoculars. Which I also do.

    Kind of like racing, people race to win. It's an imperfect example, but you get the idea.

    It's imperfect because no matter what racing itself is also fun. But photography, the end result is much more important. How excited can you get of the gear or taking shots that are not very good?

    I can relate to this growing up, we didn't have a lot of money and I would mess around with film cameras. I didn't always have film so I just took shots without film. Or when my camera was down and I didn't have one for almost 2 years. I'd go out birding with my 600mm even though I didn't have a working camera.

    Let me tell ya, that got old quick. It wasn't fun unless you took a picture to give you some sort of reward for your effort.
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    Yep.

    Getting the right moment with wildlife is challenging enough. Having better gear just makes it more likely you capture that moment.

    I've had good enough gear to capture waterfalls, sunrises, etc for years and years. Yet, I still get up early or go hiking to do so.

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    There's definitely a factor of perspective in all of this. You occasionally see people at the locks & dams or surrounding areas with a pro grade camera and big white, but it may be less common than you'd think. 80D/100-400 II is actually a better set up than probably 70% of the people I've seen over the years. More focal length is better, but if you know where to go and have luck on your side you can actually take quite competent eagle pictures that have eye detail, feather detail, etc... with less.

    Facebook, Flickr, etc... tell the tale. Some eagle pictures are absolutely amazing. Some are not even in focus. I guess it comes down to the eye of the photographer and expectations. Personally, I try to confirm the count is high enough and the weather will be good before leaving and hope for the best. It usually works out, but not always.

    There's certainly an element of challenge in any wild life photography that technical advancements may never eliminate.

    Dave

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    Yep (apparently I am very agreeable this Monday morning).

    First, gear does not make the photographer, an 80D/100-400 II is a great set up, better than my original 7D and 100-400 Mk I, and amazing pictures can be and have been taken with that gear.

    But, getting back to your "fun" comment. I think "fun" is maximized when you have a goal that is a challenge, but obtainable. As your goals get higher and higher, you need to make them obtainable either by better circumstances (still the best way to get better pictures is to put yourself in the best possible location), perseverance, or with better, higher performing, gear. The perspective part is really where you are on that challenge curve.

    And nothing wrong with any of that...for most of us, this is just a fun hobby.

    Of course, for professionals, consistently capturing that moment as perfectly as possible is even more critical (granted, as soon as they are above the minimum threshold, costs can take over). Actually, I saw this great quote by a MiLB player the other day, something to the extent that "consistency is the only difference between being in the MiLB and MLB, we can throw 99 mph, hit 99 mph, but they just do it more consistently." I think there are some other differences, like a change up that will leave you wondering what your name is, but it is a good perspective.

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    Vanessa Joy editing raw photos. Skip to the last 30 secs if you want her conclusion...

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