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HDNitehawk
10-05-2010, 02:08 AM
With the full moon in focus, how can I bring detail out in the tree? Several problems here, the moon back lights the picture. DOF of the 500mm is limiting.


Here is the info: 5D Mark II, 500mm F4L, F32.0, 1/6 second, ISO 200 shot in manual mode.


I know I could use two pictures and merge them in photoshop. But I want to do it with the camera and lens. I was thinking maybe some sort of quick flash.


Your comments and help welcome


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Sean Setters
10-05-2010, 02:15 AM
Flash certainly would allow for some detail in the tree. In fact, just a hint of an off camera flash coming from the back would look like the moon was illuminating the tree.

Daniel Browning
10-05-2010, 03:05 AM
I think you

nickds7
10-05-2010, 03:05 AM
Perhaps mess with gelling the flash as well...a blueish gel might look more realistic.

HDNitehawk
10-05-2010, 02:01 PM
Thanks for the response everyone. Looks like I will be doing some research on lighting.

Sean Setters
10-05-2010, 03:13 PM
There was a guy here to wrote up a decent little introduction to off-camera flash. I can't remember his name (we was kind of a jerk), but you can find the first thread here ("/photography_tips_techniques1/f/12/t/2081.aspx).

HDNitehawk
10-05-2010, 03:47 PM
Thanks Sean

Steven23
10-05-2010, 05:49 PM
man that guy is a jerk, lol jk

Sean Setters
10-05-2010, 06:23 PM
Now that I think about it, I don

HDNitehawk
10-05-2010, 06:42 PM
Now that I think about it, I don't believe you'll be able to see much detail in the tree even if you were to throw some flash in there. Why? Depth of field. You can see the tree is quite fuzzy as is, so throwing some light on it won't really bring out much detail (it'll still be quite out-of-focus at 500mm when focused on the moon). The flash might provide a bit more interest, though, as the outline of the tree would stand out a bit more.


That was the second part of my problem that I have to figure out, I was about 50 yards from the tree when I took this. Ireally wanta large moon in the photo, which of course the 500mm will provide. But I may have to do this with a shorter lens to get the DOF. I knew I could solve this problem, either moving further from the tree, changing lens or both.


I should have posted the full picture and not the crop version. The tree outline looks kind of like a giant hand grabing the moon.

Daniel Browning
10-05-2010, 06:54 PM
That was the second part of my problem that I have to figure out


Perhaps two exposures will be a better solution after all. Personally, I'd just take a picture of the tree and add the moon in post. [:D]

nickds7
10-06-2010, 07:14 AM
That was the second part of my problem that I have to figure out


Perhaps two exposures will be a better solution after all. Personally, I'd just take a picture of the tree and add the moon in post. /emoticons/emotion-2.gif





Taking one photo of the moon in focus and one with the tree in focus and then just cutting out the moon from one shot and applying it to the other photo is probably the easiest way to do it.

Alan
10-06-2010, 11:48 AM
With the full moon in focus, how can I bring detail out in the tree? Several problems here, the moon back lights the picture. DOF of the 500mm is limiting.


Here is the info: 5D Mark II, 500mm F4L, F32.0, 1/6 second, ISO 200 shot in manual mode.


I know I could use two pictures and merge them in photoshop. But I want to do it with the camera and lens. I was thinking maybe some sort of quick flash.
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Here's a possibility...


Since you have photoshop, you can do a focus stack.


Use the custom function, to disconnect your shutter from auto focusing, and move the AF to the button (AF ON) on the back of your camera.


Focus on that large trunk, with the AF back button, re-frame your shot to the moon, then take your first picture with the flash.


Without moving the camera, hit the back AF button again, to refocus on the moon. Take the second shot.


Stack both images in photoshop, and run a script, and it will eliminate the out of focus areas. Your tree should be lit, and show the detail, as well as the moon itself.


Good luck.