Was yours kit or body?Quote:
Originally Posted by Photog82
I preordered mine the day it was announced.
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Was yours kit or body?Quote:
Originally Posted by Photog82
I preordered mine the day it was announced.
So, I'd say ISO 6400 is good enough to use for full sized images, whereas with the 7D, I'd tend to limit myself to ISO 800-1600. ISO 12800 and 16000 are easily usable for web-sized shots. How much this changes when using a proper RAW converter instead of in-camera JPG, remains to be seen.
These are straight from camera, a bit of a crop on Bran's image (the black one), default camera settings. Both with the kit 18-135mm STM.
https://farm6.staticflickr.com/5602/...0bff51ee_c.jpg
7DmkII - ISO6400 by namethatnobodyelsetook, on Flickr
https://farm4.staticflickr.com/3948/...ec79b4f8_c.jpg
7DmkII - ISO6400_2 by namethatnobodyelsetook, on Flickr
These two from the 24-70, straight from the camera.
https://farm6.staticflickr.com/5607/...4eef0247_b.jpg
7D mark II - ISO 12800 by namethatnobodyelsetook, on Flickr
https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7524/...3069c92b_c.jpg
7D mark II - ISO 16000 by namethatnobodyelsetook, on Flickr
Body only and I ordered it within the hour of it being available to pre-order. I had called B&H first thing this morning to upgrade the shipping. I'm looking forward to getting to know the camera this weekend just in time for a wedding on the 8th.Quote:
Originally Posted by HDNitehawk
The dog looks really good on the ISO 16000 one, but the background is a little iffy. However, it is the in-focus subject that matters more. Impressive.Quote:
Originally Posted by DavidEccleston
I like B&H great return policy and prices but when you have to talk to an individual you get bad info.Quote:
Originally Posted by Photog82
This evening mine shipped.
I talked to a Rep in chat this afternoon and he tells me it will not ship till the 3rd. I was going to ask for a next day upgrade because of Adorama's offer also. I didn't bother because they tell me it will not ship till Monday. It would have been nice to have it this weekend.
So far I am really enjoying the new camera. I plan to take it out this weekend and test it out as well as some portraits. The only complaint that I have so far is the zoom buttons, it'll take some time to get used to the new method to zoom. I did notice that my Sigma Art 1.4 is having focusing problems on this camera, I'm going to have to test it out a little more but I hope this isn't the norm as I use this a lot for portraits.
The 7DII quite likely has the same feature as on other recent bodies, where you can configure the Set button to zoom to 100% at the AF point selected for the shot, then zoom out/in with the main dual. I far prefer that to a bunch of button presses.Quote:
Originally Posted by Photog82
Hard for Sigma to reverse engineer the AF system of a camera before launch. That's a downside/risk with 3rd party lenses. If it's a bona fide issue, Sigma should have a firmware update for the lens at some point.
It seems to be a problem more so inside when the lighting isn't as bright which is the whole point of buying this lens. I really hope that this can get resolved.
I like Rick's thread and will leave it for those that actually own the camera. Just wanted to point out that dxomark has posted their review. I do not pay attention to the single "sensor score" and they are never particularly kind to Canon. But I do look at the individual measurements.
From what I see, a lot of similarities to the 70D sensor. At low ISO, signal to noise ratio, tonal range and color sensitivity are the same. The 7DII does begin to pick up ~1/3 stop at higher ISOs. The dynamic range of the 7DII is better for almost the entire ISO range tested by about 1/2 stop.
That said, it is very similar to other crop sensor cameras out there. Comparing it to the Nikon 7100 and Sony 5100, noise and tonal range are almost identical. Especially the Nikon and Sony have higher DR at low ISO, but they even out quickly and by ISO 1600 the 7DII and Sony are essentially identical. The Nikon continuous to hold a ~1 stop advantage. Color sensitivity, the Nikon/Sony hold a 2/3-1 stop advantage.
All that said, the images coming in with the 7DII seem better than that too me. So, I am interested to keep hearing how others are finding the camera. Plus, you can not discount non-sensor aspects of photography.
Either mad props or best of luck to you. I bought my first 1Dx 13 months ago, and I don't know the AF system 100% yet, nor am I disciplined enough to go into the menus as conditions change and make adjustments (let alone the RIGHT adjustments). I know it's tough to leave a new camera at home, but do consider going with what you know, as the new toy might give you some surprises your clients won't like.Quote:
Originally Posted by Photog82
Sigh... My battery grip arrived today. Sure wish I had a body to attach it to...
My 7D Mark II arrives later today - along with cloudy skies, 30 MPH winds and temps falling into the 20's by evening...sigh. Not ideal conditions for outdoor shooting, but I'll be out there trying it out anyway.
Speaking of batteries, leaving the GPS enabled is a lot like leaving your car lights on overnight.
By morning, the battery is pretty much dead....:(
I've been leaving GPS disabled unless I really want it enabled for a specific purpose. I imagine that's how I'm going to use it, typically speaking...Quote:
Originally Posted by shutterdown
It sure has been a long delay for the camera raw update for the 7DII. I remember Adobe updating cameras within a few days of their release, but it seems like the 7DII is taking much longer.
I'm not sure what the delay typically is... this is actually my first *new* camera. T1i was refurb. 7D was used from local another dog photographer who upgraded to a 5D3. 1Ds2 was used from Adorama. The wait is infuriating.
Just use DPP 4.0 It works quite well.
I have been using it, but sparingly. It's not Adobe CR, though. ACR is far more versatile and the controls are much better.Quote:
Originally Posted by Joel Eade
One option, though tedious, is to use DPP to convert CR2 to TIFF, then "start" your workflow (using TIFFs instead of CR2). Added complexity, but you keep the control you're used to having and you haven't thrown away any bits in the process.Quote:
Originally Posted by shutterdown
Actually I have been disappointed with DPP and the 7D II. There is not much head room for improvement and I am not sure if it is the camera or DPP. If it is the camera it does say quit a bit about the 7D II's in camera performance, but I am hoping that when LR does an update I am able to improve with RAW files.Quote:
Originally Posted by Joel Eade
Great minds think alike: that's exactly how I do the workflow with DPP. I don't bother with any of the DPP features, except to open the TIFF.Quote:
Originally Posted by peety3
I don't have a 7DII but with the 1DX DPP 4.0 does very well. I like the color rendition and noise control a little better than ACR.
It has a set of adjustments and sliders very similar to ACR and, to me, it seems to work very well.
Arthur Morris has been having good results using it with the 7DII......www.birdsasart.com
Yes....that is how I use ACR as well....just to make some basic adjustments then convert to a 16 bit tiff then on to Photoshop CC.:)Quote:
Originally Posted by peety3
Have just been reading the review below and it's very interesting (if somewhat challenging at times).
http://www.clarkvision.com/reviews/e...on-canon-7dii/
It's sad that we lost Daniel to the dark side.
Thanks for the link. Compare it also with the data at sensorgen, and the 7DII sensor has made some nice improvements. Quantum Efficiency is up to 59%, much lower read noise at lower ISOs, and low noise from thermal dark current.