Accent on quality in PHOTOS instead of quality of EQUIPMENT?

From my short experience in this forum, I gather that the overwhelming accent here is placed on Canon cameras and lenses. However, many people post their photos for others to admire and maybe even comment on. I also understand that many of those who post their photos are complete 'newbies' and that they got a desire to learn ins and outs of photography.


I would like to suggest two things:

1. To people posting their photos: please, be more self-critical and do not flood these threads with total garbage, where one may have problems discerning the content of the image (for example, totally unsharp and totally underexposed shots of 'something' - where that 'something' can only be deduced from the caption or the title of their post).
2. To people who view and/or comment on photos posted by other people: please, be constructive in your comments. Things like 'awesome', 'cool', etc. are not really very helpful to anybody - especially not for a poster who tries to learn something from those comments. Let's make an effort and write some coherent opinion - even if it may be painful for the recipient. At least, they may learn something from that kind of feedback. 'Awesome' is counter-productive...

One last thought. We all want to own the best cameras and lenses we can afford. That is understandable and natural.However, owning the greatest camera ever made does not equal being a good or even decent photographer. On the other hand, owning and properly using even the cheapest and simplest of the most amateurish kind of equipment can result in great photography.So, what do we do with those dream cameras? Let's strive to learn how to use them, instead of just discussing their features or lack thereof.





Does that make sense? [;)]

I see where you got your name

Makes sense to me.


I admit I am guilty of just posting pictures with a simple caption and no description or image data. I get that from another forum I use, Sorry. But, most of my pictures, with the exception of stacked / composites, have the Metadata/Exif data available. For those who don't already know you can view that image data with a Exif Viewer.


Personally, I am always looking for constructive criticism, Photography tips and tricks, Processing tips and trick, as well as alternative methods to all of the above. IMO, There is always room for improvement!


We cannot learn from one another if all we get is simple comments like "nice", "cool" or "good Job", when in reality we know it's not a very good picture, but we want to be kind and not hurt any feeling. Well Intentioned productive C&C shouldn't hurt anyone's feelings.


I've posted some mediocre pictures knowing they are not the best I can do, and I only get simple comments that don't help anything. No big deal!


Now on the other hand, if it is a nice picture and you really don't have anything constructive to say, it is always nice to acknowledge with a brief comment such as those. IMHO, that is better than ignoring the OP and his work..


If you have a picture that is "not so good" and you would like C&C for help, post the picture stats. Some pictures have an embedded header file that includes all that data, (Exif Data) and with the right browser plug-in/add-on we can view that information. But for whatever reason not all images posted within a forum will have that. Maybe it's an attached image and it was stripped, the image host has stripped it for some reason, or the photographer themselves has stripped it. Regardless, knowing that data helps those who want to help you. The more information you can provide about the picture, the easier it will be to help.


On Edit:
There is a specific forum here for posting pictures you would like critiqued. Other than that we can use our best judgment and usually tell when a person is asking for ideas or suggestions.
We also must remember that not everyone is in this to become an expert or professional. Many, like myself are just amateur hobbyists who just enjoy photography and sharing my photographic experiences.

Firestarter,


I know my previous response was sharp but that was the intent. Above you criticized the term awesome which I used recently. It was on some shots that were posted on show&tell. I think they are awesome. I have been on this forum for over two years and have given many a critique. I have learned a lot from the folks on this forum and hope they have learned a lot from me. I see from your experience i am sure I can learn a lot from you as well. As you state in your bio you have some strong opinion and that is for sure.


This site is dedicated to equipment so we do like to talk about the latest and greatest, dream and show off what we have. There is a lot of experience on this forum that allows us to learn to get the most from our equipment.


So with all that said, I do agree in part with what you have to say but sometimes my comment is just "awesome" or I may discuss the latest and greatest features. I will continue to critique when I have an opinion and post when I want critique or just post when I want to hear, "great job". We will continue to learn from each other and I look forward to your continued participation.


Please accept my apologies for shooting back like I did.


Mark

I think we should pay attention to whether the pic is posted to "show and tell" or to "image critique".


If I post a pic of my daughter to "show and tell", I don't want the constructive criticism "you need to pick better looking models", even if following that advice will improve my pictures [:)]


As for the whole equipmentitis thing, I think we all know that talented photoraphers can take great pictures with very modest equipment. So what? Some of us like talking about equipment, pros and cons of this or that body or lens, etc, and I don't see anything wrong with that. If you aren't interested, don't read those threads.

This is an awesome thread. Very cool indeed!

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by Firestarter

I would like to suggest two things:


To people posting their photos: please, be more self-critical and do not flood these threads with total garbage, where one may have problems discerning the content of the image (for example, totally unsharp and totally underexposed shots of 'something' - where that 'something' can only be deduced from the caption or the title of their post).

---

Disagree: Many people on this forum, Inlcuding myself quit visiting sites like you suggest because many of those commenting were hateful, sarcastic, condescending to the point of offensive. I hoenstly don't want this forum to turn into one of those. I like the casual, friendly and "Supportive" nature of TDP. As far as real critique, I am usually my own worst critic,if I ask for a critic of my work, I usually get honest and helpful responses, with out the arrogance of the self proclaimed "expert critic"---Personally, I like it that way.

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by Firestarter

To people who view and/or comment on photos posted by other people: please, be constructive in your comments. Things like 'awesome', 'cool', etc. are not really very helpful to anybody - especially not for a poster who tries to learn something from those comments. Let's make an effort and write some coherent opinion - even if it may be painful for the recipient. At least, they may learn something from that kind of feedback. 'Awesome' is counter-productive...

---

Disagree: I have had the pleasure of developing my craft in parallel with others on this forum. The sharing of photos and recieving the occasional "Cool" or "Awesome" has been an accepted practice on this forum since the beginning and has probably resulted in far more skill and artistic improvements than the "brutal critic" method--Why, because people are not afraid to post here. Since they are not afraid, they are more likely to listen to subtle criticisms and helpful hints when offered.---I personaly like it this way.

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by Firestarter

<div style="CLEAR: both"]


One last thought. We all want to own the best cameras and lenses we can afford. That is understandable and natural.However, owning the greatest camera ever made does not equal being a good or even decent photographer. On the other hand, owning and properly using even the cheapest and simplest of the most amateurish kind of equipment can result in great photography.So, what do we do with those dream cameras? Let's strive to learn how to use them, instead of just discussing their features or lack thereof.

---

</div>
<div style="CLEAR: both"]</div>
<div style="CLEAR: both"]</div>
<div style="CLEAR: both"]I personally like talking about my camera, lenses and other equipment, I also like hearing about the equipment of others, thier opinions and experiences with thier equipment.---I learn from these discussions, but most importantly, I enjoy those discussions. Most here are striving to improve thier craft and the understanding of the technology by whichthey produce it---to change this would be a huge injustice to those who have spent countless hours educating those of uswho wanted to learn beyond the owners manual.</div>
<div style="CLEAR: both"]</div>
<div style="CLEAR: both"]</div>
<div style="CLEAR: both"]

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by Firestarter

Does that make sense?

---

</div>
<div style="CLEAR: both"]</div>
<div style="CLEAR: both"]No, It absolutely makes no sense at all to change a forum that many enjoy and learn from.</div>
<div style="CLEAR: both"]</div>
<div style="CLEAR: both"]Respectfully,</div>
<div style="CLEAR: both"]</div>
<div style="CLEAR: both"]Bob</div>
<div style="CLEAR: both"]</div>
<div style="CLEAR: both"]</div>
<div style="CLEAR: both"]</div>
<div style="CLEAR: both"]</div>
<div style="CLEAR: both"]</div>

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by Firestarter

To people posting their photos: please, be more self-critical and do not flood these threads with total garbage

---

One man's garbage is another man's art ...IMHO, this site is not just for the best of the best. Even in "Post your Best", it just might be that newbies best at the moment.

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by Jon Ruyle

I think we should pay attention to whether the pic is posted to "show and tell" or to "image critique".

---

Maybe the OP wasn't aware that there are show &amp; tell threads where IMO it is showing respect to acknowledge the photos you like with at least a "nice shot" or "awesome". If you truly like them, I don't see anything wrong with sayings so. Maybe the poster just wants to show some shots from a new lens he just bought and saying, "congrats" or "nice!"is a very appropriate comment.

Also, beinga newbie stillmyself compared to others that have been doing this for years, I don't feel comfortable doing a real lot of critiquing as of yet but still like to partake in many of the threads and just sharing my honest opinions when I have one on a photo or subject ...even if it is only a word or two.

Denise

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by doggiedoc

This is an awesome thread. Very cool indeed!

---

I find your refusal to provide constructive criticism of this thread disturbing [;)]

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by Jon Ruyle

I find your refusal to provide constructive criticism of this thread disturbing [img]/emoticons/emotion-5.gif[/img]

---

My skills lean toward sarcasm as apposed to criticism. [:D]

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by doggiedoc

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by Jon Ruyle

I find your refusal to provide constructive criticism of this thread disturbing [img]/emoticons/emotion-5.gif[/img]

---

My skills lean toward sarcasm as apposed to criticism. [img]/emoticons/emotion-2.gif[/img]
<div style="CLEAR: both"]</div>

---

You guys are killin me---[:P]

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by Bob Williams

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by doggiedoc

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by Jon Ruyle

I find your refusal to provide constructive criticism of this thread disturbing [img]/emoticons/emotion-5.gif[/img]

---

My skills lean toward sarcasm as apposed to criticism. [img]/emoticons/emotion-2.gif[/img]
<div style="CLEAR:both;"]</div>

---

You guys are killin me---[img]/emoticons/emotion-4.gif[/img]

---

Allow me to be critical of my own grammar. The use of "as apposed" is incorrect. Using "rather than" would be more proper. [:^)]

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by doggiedoc

Allow me to be critical of my own grammar. The use of "as apposed" is incorrect. Using "rather than" would be more proper.

---

Allow me to be critical of your criticality. "As apposed" is not only grammatically incorrect, it is alsosemantically incorrect. "Apposed" would mean 'next to' whereas I believe you intended to use the phrase, "As opposed," meaning 'in opposition to."


[8-|]

I think the "noise" coming from this thread is adequate and the "highlights" are properly "exposed"! Maybe the OP should try a "warming filter"!


LOL! See, maybe I should just stick to nice and AWESOME!! [:P]


Denise

John, I cheerfully yield.


Denise, you are cool!

I know I fall into the category that the OP is talking about. My assignment postings look a lot worse than that what I hoped, I thought they looked OK on my monitor. I loaded them onto Flickr and the full size shots look better there, oh welllive and learn. I'm not going to edit my assignment posts.


http://www.flickr.com/photos/53112139@N08/5174601194/in/photostream/


I blazed away 500 shots at a friends wedding last weekend. Two weeks before the eventI asked the bride to ask the Pro if she minded that I was clicking away behind her and it was all good. I'm probably only happy with about 10% of my shots, but I learnt a hell of a lot. The Pro who only had primes and no wide primes, had to get a lend of my 24-70 to do the wide shots, so I was glad I dropped the coin on that lens for everyones sake. (But I sure did miss it when it was in her hands)


I love this site and will soon post some pics for CC and please let the comments rain down upon me. But for now I'm just snapping away,experimenting atdifferent aperatures and mucking around with lighting and trying to learn how to use CS5.


My shoulders are big enough and I'm pretty sure the site is big enough for all opinions(including OP's) and ability levels.


As an aside I have mentioned previously, Ilook onlygood ina dim,blurry, rustic style which luckilyequates very nicely and awesomely with my pictures and myability level.[H]


Steve

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by Steve U

I know I fall into the category that the OP is talking about. My assignment postings look a lot worse than that what I hoped, I thought they looked OK on my monitor. I loaded them onto Flickr and the full size shots look better there, oh welllive and learn. I'm not going to edit my assignment posts.


[url="http://www.flickr.com/photos/53112139@N08/5174601194/in/photostream/]http://www.flickr.com/photos/53112139@N08/5174601194/in/photostream/[/url]
<div style="clear: both;"]</div>

---

That's a first I've heard that.


Usually it's the other way around and your pictures look better on you computer before you upload them to a Image host such as Flickr.
When you have your picture on your computer it is your image editing software and or your monitor that is rendering the colors / image data. When you are viewing them with a web browser it is the web browser that is doing the rendering.
So If your picture is looking better to your eyes after you upload it to an image host and view it via a web browser, I would take a look at your software configuration and the color profile and color space it is using. I would also look at your color management, and monitor properties and calibration.


BTW, That is a pretty flower. Don't know much about flowers, what kind is that?

<div>


Hey, clemmb, believe me, there is no need to takepersonallyeverything I write, nor feel defensive. My opinions are strong, but my intentions are gentle.[:D]


Anybody has the right to their opinions, and - what's more - not everybody needs to agree with my opinions or anybody else's. I, for one, have no problems with people like Bob, who can't find any sense at all in what I posted originally. I don't mind to be laughed at, either. But I truly prefer a discussion as opposed to simply stating my 'manifesto' without getting any serious feedback.


Now, to sort out some misunderstandings.


I am not saying that we should stop talking about the equipment. All I am saying is that as great as Canon equipment is, it is meaningless if we don't use it to create interesting photographs with it. Therefore, I think it is logical to acquire some skills besides acquiring all possible new models of cameras and lenses. (Shoot! Another mistake on my part - now I will hear protests from all those who have more than one lens!).


I am not saying that all 'awesome' and 'cool' comments should disappear. I am simply suggesting, that we can help beginners to learn better from their mistakes if we point those mistakes out and perhaps suggest some remedy.


After all, if nobody is interested, I will certainly refrain from pushing for any kind of expansion to this forum's profile. Sometimes, even the most helpful intentions are taken as a threat to the 'establishment', so I will just shut up. Perhaps that way I will not make any more enemies... Cool? [sarcasm][H]
</div>

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by Firestarter

<div>


Hey, clemmb, believe me, there is no need to takepersonallyeverything I write, nor feel defensive. My opinions are strong, but my intentions are gentle.[img]/emoticons/emotion-2.gif[/img]


Anybody has the right to their opinions, and - what's more - not everybody needs to agree with my opinions or anybody else's. I, for one, have no problems with people like Bob, who can't find any sense at all in what I posted originally. I don't mind to be laughed at, either. But I truly prefer a discussion as opposed to simply stating my 'manifesto' without getting any serious feedback.


Now, to sort out some misunderstandings.


I am not saying that we should stop talking about the equipment. All I am saying is that as great as Canon equipment is, it is meaningless if we don't use it to create interesting photographs with it. Therefore, I think it is logical to acquire some skills besides acquiring all possible new models of cameras and lenses. (Shoot! Another mistake on my part - now I will hear protests from all those who have more than one lens!).


I am not saying that all 'awesome' and 'cool' comments should disappear. I am simply suggesting, that we can help beginners to learn better from their mistakes if we point those mistakes out and perhaps suggest some remedy.


After all, if nobody is interested, I will certainly refrain from pushing for any kind of expansion to this forum's profile. Sometimes, even the most helpful intentions are taken as a threat to the 'establishment', so I will just shut up. Perhaps that way I will not make any more enemies... Cool? [sarcasm][img]/emoticons/emotion-11.gif[/img]
</div>
<div style="clear: both;"]</div>

---

Firestarter,


Again, my apologies for taking offense. As I said, I am looking forward to learning from your experience as well. It also made for a great thread from those with more humor and wit than me.


Mark

It is nice to see that everyone is so civil in these forums.


@Firestarter, I understand where you are coming from, having studied photography in college as an art form. But, TDP offers something for everyone, and the appeal of discussing equipment is just one facet of photography. The appeal extends beyond photography actually, and there

[Y]That's the spirit I was expecting to meet with, dragonmojo! [Y]

Clemmb, no offense taken. Don't worry about it, really. If you want to offend me, you have to try harder.[:D]

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by Firestarter

I am not saying that we should stop talking about the equipment. All I am saying is that as great as Canon equipment is, it is meaningless if we don't use it to create interesting photographs with it. Therefore, I think it is logical to acquire some skills besides acquiring all possible new models of cameras and lenses. (Shoot! Another mistake on my part - now I will hear protests from all those who have more than one lens!)

---

I think something to keep in mind is, that many of us found this site not in our quest to improve technique. We came to compare equipment. Brian has some awesome comparisons, reviews and tools on the site. So it should be no mystery that the tools are one of the main topics.


Second, as far as Skill vs Equipment. It is true that Skill is the most important thing. When I was young I strived to be a craftsman at my trade (not photography). What I have learned from my trade is that craftsman want the best tools they can get, not the flashiest, not the most expensive, they want the tool that will perform the best. Why is this, because your skill can be limited by your tools. Sure a good craftsman will learn work arounds to do what they want, but they still want the best because it makes the job that much easier. That said, it is why I want the best equipment I can get. Not because it will take great pictures, thats a given in the right hands. I want it because I want to be skill limited not equipment limited. Then...when the picture is bad, it is my fault.


Do notice what part of the forum someone posts in. Show and Tell, if someone floods show and tell with pictures, is that bad? I don't think so. If it is Show and Tell they didn't ask for a Critique.


If it is in the C&amp;C someone should expect opinions, good or bad.

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by Firestarter

Anybody has the right to their opinions, and - what's more - not everybody needs to agree with my opinions or anybody else's. I, for one, have no problems with people like Bob, who can't find any sense at all in what I posted originally

---

Firestarter, Actually your suggestions make perfect sense to me, just not on this forum (IMHO)--which was the point I was trying to make. Sites like FM and Photosigmake good use of the rules you described in your original post and those sites have some very talented photographers that will gladly provide a critique of your work.


Sorry if I was a little "direct" in my initial response-No offense was intended, its just that i would hate to see TDP turn into one of the aforementioned sites.


Welcome to the Forum.


Bob

HD, agreed on all counts. One more time: I am not arguing against the machine. I am as much into best photo equipment as the next guy. And I do notice the difference between 'Show And Tell' and 'Image Critique'.


Maybe it's only me, but when I do look in the 'Show And Tell' section and see something that could have been as well shot with a cardboard pinhole camera, I wonder: "What's the point?". Wouldn't you rather learn how to properly use any camera than spend all your hard-earned money on all those "L" lenses and then waste them producing garbage, and after that, waste our time on going through it? Wouldn't it be logical and smart to use the existing forum and the resources it offers not only to read specs and reviews of Canon gear (BTW, I came to this site exactly for this purpose), but also to learn photography? And what better and cheaper way to do it than perusing critique from other users?


Again - this is not meant to be taken personally by anybody. Just a bunch of thoughts and suggestions...

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by dragonmojo

and there's a term for those who are so affected: we're gearheads.
<div style="clear: both;"]</div>

---

Here we are not affected but infected. We refer to it here as the 'L' disease.[:P]


Mark

Thanks, Bob. I appreciate that a lot.


And to everybody: I really do not get offended by your posts, unless I am personally attacked, especially for no good reason and unprovoked. So go ahead, criticize my approach to forum membership as much as you like. I can take a lot...[U]

No offense taken here &amp; I hope you feel the same. After only 4 hrs. of sleep last night my previous post was the best joke I could muster up as bad as it was and I apologize for that.


IMO (for what it

OK, enough apologies already, or I will get offended...[6]

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by ddt0725

IMO (for what it's worth) ...sometimes a person's "garbage" photos are due to limitations unknown to us. For me, when I was in my early 30's, I went in for my annual eye exam and was told I was in the very advanced stages of glaucoma and needed emergency surgery on both eyes or I'd be blind very soon. My eyesight today is not the greatest and that experience makes me grateful for every photo I take, good or bad.

---

Denise, I feel bad because I haven't even thought of such possibility. Now I can see how you might have felt reading something that might have sounded insensitive on my part. Anyway, thanks for pointing that out for me.

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by ddt0725

I've only been at this as a hobby for a year now and although I will never be a pro at it, I love it just as much as the pros do and if a $1,000 lens helps me get a better photo and I can afford it, I will definitely buy it.

---

I assure you, photo-enthusiasts love their photography even more than pros do. I have been both. As a pro, I was just trying to make money. As an enthusiast, I strive to become an artist. I am a pro no more. I make my money in another way. But photography will stay with me until I drop dead.

I can or should contribute to this post, because I truly have spent a bunch of that green stuff we American

that beatiful ocean flower shot thro a 40d on an excellent 100mm 2.8 usm non is lens vauled under 500 usd!

Firestarter, I completely understand your sentiment, and sometimes I even share it, but I also believe that even though probably everybody here ultimately wants to shoot (and perhaps discuss) great photos, this website has an emphasis on photography equipment, and that's ok for me. There are other websites which focus more on image critique (including "don't hold back on the blunt truth" attitude), and if that's what I'm interested in, that's where I go...


I'm quite happy that (for example) the-digital-picture, photosig, flickr, and canonrumors are distinct websites, you know what to expect from each of them.


'nuff said, let's shoot (and share) some photos ;-)


Ciao, Colin

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by Colin500

There are other websites which focus more on image critique (including "don't hold back on the blunt truth" attitude), and if that's what I'm interested in, that's where I go...
<div style="clear: both;"]</div>

---

POTN is one such forum.
However, even though the emphasis of this site is equipment, I enjoy viewing other peoples pictures as well as sharing mine. I also enjoy learning new techniques which can also be accomplished here.
I am always open to C&amp;C, but some people might not be. Some people might have thicker skin that others. I think most people who post their pictures on any forum expect a little C&amp;C, At the same time C&amp;C or not, they should not go ignored. Some times all that is warranted is a brief comment. A little acknowledgment can go a long ways.


When it comes to C&amp;C the passion some have for photography really comes out in their words. As long as it is civil, with a little tact, I see no harm in any C&amp;C. Believe me when I say, what I have seen here is extremely mild in comparison to what I have observed at other web forums. In my short time here I can see that the people are friendly, It didn't take me long to feel comfortable enough to start showing some of my pictures. I hope I wasn't wrong! I am not a professional, and I am not expert at photography, but I have even tried my best to be helpful when I can, and I hope I haven't come across to anyone as being sarcastic or condescending. I have also been able to learn a couple new things while reading through many of the posts here for which I am grateful, and I hope to learn more.


I have been to forums, software forums that I won't name here, where unfortunately people hide behind the anonymity of the Internet and feel free to be patronizing toward other members without any consequence. I don't know why they do it, maybe it makes them feel superior to others in their own mind. Nevertheless, IMHO, there is absolutely no need for that kind of attitude, and it is in no way productive.
Perhaps it is best when someone posts pictures here, especially if only in the show and tell, we should not offer a critique or assistance unless it is otherwise solicited.


With that said, One persons style or technique isn't necessarily the Right style or Technique for everyone else. That doesn't make one wrong and the other right. If it works for you, go with it.

<span style="font-size: xx-large;"]FOLKS, RELAX, AND GO TAKE SOME PHOTOS [:D] I THINK YOU'RE WASTING YOUR TIME ON THIS THREAD!

I agree. What has been intended as an innocent push for improvement, almost ended up as an international conflict. I will never offer any kind of comment or critique on any photo, unless specifically asked for it.


I consider this topic as finished and done...

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by Firestarter

I agree. What has been intended as an innocent push for improvement, almost ended up as an international conflict. I will never offer any kind of comment or critique on any photo, unless specifically asked for it.


I consider this topic as finished and done...
<div style="clear: both;"]</div>

---

Why wouldn't you offer a comment or critique of a photo? That seems a bit over dramatic. Simply put, the parent site of this community is focused on equipment reviews. And it makes sense that the people who frequent this forum are knowledgeable about the gear they use. However, the purpose of buying and using the gear is to make great photos (and videos, I suppose). People don't create great images just because they possess a 1D series camera--but the people who create great images see the value in owning a professional piece of equipment.


Please offer your constructive comments or critiques whenever you feel it is appropriate.

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by Firestarter

I agree. What has been intended as an innocent push for improvement, almost ended up as an international conflict. I will never offer any kind of comment or critique on any photo, unless specifically asked for it.


I consider this topic as finished and done...

---

Most likely both parties have already acknowledged the difference between "Show &amp; Tell" vs "C&amp;C" so I agree, no need to say anything further upon that topic [:D]


Personally, for someone like me who have taken up photography seriously for only a year, your generosity to contribute your years of knowledge and insight on our photos are overwhelming!


You've certainly made a grand entrance [;)] Welcome to the forum!!


I'll be sure to post my photos on "C&amp;C" and would love to have the harshest critique I can get from you with full intent on improving my skills.


Oh...and yes I will definitely specify for your critique, as well as others to clarify my intensions to rip the images apart. [No sarcasm, just a sincere request] [;)]

I have to admit that I agree with Firestarter, and have considered writing a similar post. However, I am too scared that I would offend someone (particularly since I am not able to express myself properly in english). I would also like to know what other think of the pictures posted here, not only my own, but also critics on pictures from other members. An "awesome" doesn't give me much.


That being said, critics don't have to point out the negative aspects of a picture. It could just as well point out the positive sides, like "I like the the blurry foreground" etc. That can be just as helpful (or even more) than negative comments, and in my opinion, much more fun to both give and take.


Still I like the gear-discussions, they just tend to annoy me a bit, since I can't afford any new gear at the moment (In fact, I am not allowed by my girlfriend, she thinks we should rather spend the money on food, diapers and other "necessities" [:(]).When I get rich and famous, I will probably flash all my equipment here and annoy another poor guy. Can't wait...


Lars

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by Lars

...In fact, I am not allowed by my girlfriend, she thinks we should rather spend the money on food, diapers and other "necessities" [img]/emoticons/emotion-6.gif[/img]...

---

There was a time when I came across a post here on TDP about a wife/gf that had suggestedthat one member here should upgrade to the 5DMkII...[:|] Now who was that??


One day I'll find a partner that'll say such things to me...it'll just be a race to see whether her or my "L" disease will make us go bankrupt first [;)]


...one day....

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by Sean Setters

<div>


Why wouldn't you offer a comment or critique of a photo? That seems a bit over dramatic.

---

Sean, perhaps it is over dramatic, but I do not want to be seen as a person who imposes himself on the rest of the community - especially when there is such a strong resistance from many members. Truly, I don't understand that resistance. Perhaps it is something that any 'newbie' should expect on any forum? It feels like some kind of initiation ritual...

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by Sean Setters

People don't create great images just because they possess a 1D series camera--but the people who create great images see the value in owning a professional piece of equipment.

---

<div>That was my point all along.</div>
<div></div>
<div>Takahiro, I appreciate your attitude.</div>
<div></div>
<div>Lars, never mind not being able to express yourself in English. The more you will try, the better you will express yourself. English is NOT my native language either...</div>
<div></div>
<div>And now, please, let's kill this topic, OK? It is getting old.</div>



<div></div>

</div>