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    Quote Originally Posted by HDNitehawk View Post
    Sales and quantity of bodies sold is not a indication of the best camera. It may be an indication of how well a company markets, brand recognition or other factors.
    So, hopefully it didn't come across as if I/we were trying to use sales numbers to determine which system was "best." Rather, my intent was to bring some numbers to the table in a discussion as to if people are migrating to Sony from Canon. While what Sony has done, going from zero to 2nd, is impressive, and Sony growing over the last 10 years is absolutely true. It is just over the same time, Canon's market share has increased and in the 2020 numbers, Canon maintains a strong market leadership position. So, while there may be individual cases of people leaving Canon for Sony, the numbers do not support some mass migration. Just the opposite, really.

    As for "best"....it really is subjective. Starting with why do people like what they like? I mean, are you going to tell a guy that drives a truck that a Porche is better than his truck? I think we can talk about characteristics and what might be best for specific needs....but that is a different discussion.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kayaker72 View Post
    So, hopefully it didn't come across as if I/we were trying to use sales numbers to determine which system was "best." Rather, my intent was to bring some numbers to the table in a discussion as to if people are migrating to Sony from Canon. While what Sony has done, going from zero to 2nd, is impressive, and Sony growing over the last 10 years is absolutely true. It is just over the same time, Canon's market share has increased and in the 2020 numbers, Canon maintains a strong market leadership position. So, while there may be individual cases of people leaving Canon for Sony, the numbers do not support some mass migration. Just the opposite, really.

    As for "best"....it really is subjective. Starting with why do people like what they like? I mean, are you going to tell a guy that drives a truck that a Porche is better than his truck? I think we can talk about characteristics and what might be best for specific needs....but that is a different discussion.
    You see the switch to Sony argument all the time. Sony is going to put Canon out of business. Canon crushes Sony.

    Canon stated that the strong sales of the EOS R5 and R6 were one of the reasons for their success last year.

    I don't think you can state from their numbers whether people are migrating to Sony or Not. It could just be that people are upgrading / switching to the RF system and that has created a surge in sales and at the same time some of those are moving to Sony. Possibly the numbers would be higher if there were none switching to Sony. The point is unless you see data from where the increase in Sony sales is coming from you do not know if there is any kind of migration or not. You can not reliable say there is a migration, or there is not.

    If you look at Sony's sales for the first few quarters of the year sales for cameras is up substantially over the previous year. If you want the data you can go to the companies website earnings release and dig through the financials. You can peel the information you need to support a position either way.


    Canon:

    ‘As for Imaging, the EOS R5 and EOS R6, which are highly competitive products, have maintained strong sales and have become the driving force behind business results, even one year after their launch."



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    Quote Originally Posted by Kayaker72 View Post
    As for "best"....it really is subjective. Starting with why do people like what they like? I mean, are you going to tell a guy that drives a truck that a Porche is better than his truck? I think we can talk about characteristics and what might be best for specific needs....but that is a different discussion.
    A friend drives a 911 Turbo S and I drive a Raptor. The subject has never come up.

    I think you analogy would be better if two people were debating Tesla's new Cybertruck vs Fords F-150 Lightning (a Ford vs Tesla debate). Personally I like the specs of the GMC Hummer EV Pickup, but have grown to dislike Government Motors GM. Which is "best" for a particular application?

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